Fighting Fourteen equips with REK SOW

[razgriz19]

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And i'm feeling very hungry.....

Okay so REK is basically FT-2 rebranded as REK. The aircraft identifies them as such if you look at the screen closely

 

[Taimoor Khan]

I think these have tactical implications as well. Can be easily used as the delivery mechanism for tactical nuclear warheads against Indian troops concentration with pin point accuracy while RAAD taking care of deep standoff tactical strikes. Something similar to this:

 

[HRK]

Okay so REK is basically FT-2 rebranded as REK. The aircraft identifies them as such if you look at the screen closely

Bro .... by which angle FT-2 & REK appear same

2- IF you look closely you will observe GB-10 at the center pillion

So is it mean JF-17 is capable of caring a US made GB-10 Glide bomb which they actually never produce ....??

(pic of GB-1, GB-10 was same in design but with TV/Radio guidance)

3- If you watch video carefully you will observe they have included unrelated clips in this video at the beginning such as
- A simulated Dog fight scene b/w Su-35 & F-22
- ACM Sohail Aman Clip from the video of an operation during which he lead to bomb TTP after APC Peshawar incident
- A clip form the video of JF-17 demonstration in Paris Airshow

so it is not necessary that the screen which you are referring is related to REK integration .... specially when it is said in video that REK integration occurred after software/ Avionics upgrade

4- Keep in mind we are aware that software/ Avionics upgrade occurred for blk-2 configuration

5- We are also aware when initially blk-1 inducted it was inducted for ground operations without BVR capabilities but later BVR capabilities were also added so possibilities are
- its clip from some old video of blk-1 as Chinese option was not only available form beginning but shown number of time earlier in different airshows
- OR its totally unrelated as I find no reason to disbelieve the explicit declaration of PAC

and It is quite understandable that they took their time to integrate it as their share of in house production of avionics is increasing.

 

[ziaulislam]

These cheap to make bombs can burn enemy's missile defence system's petty fast. I just want their range be increased to 120km so they could release it at a safer distance. May be higher altitude would do the job.

itas the high attitude that gives it the range of 60km, beyond that is not possible without a fuel/rocket.
this where the raptor H-2 comes in where there are rockets attached beneath the bomb that fuel the bomb for first 60 km,than released/jet-stationed and the bomb glides for the last 60km

 

[HRK]

itas the high attitude that gives it the range of 60km, beyond that is not possible without a fuel/rocket.
this where the raptor H-2 comes in where there are rockets attached beneath the bomb that fuel the bomb for first 60 km,than released/jet-stationed and the bomb glides for the last 60km

Takbir series with 250 KG bomb can reach up to 80-100 Km
http://nation.com.pk/national/04-Dec-2014/pakistan-made-smart-bomb-takbir-grabs-world-s-attention

 

[razgriz19]

Bro .... by which angle FT-2 & REK appear same
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2- IF you look closely you will observe GB-10 at the center pillion
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So is it mean JF-17 is capable of caring a US made GB-10 Glide bomb which they actually never produce ....??
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(pic of GB-1, GB-10 was same in design but with TV/Radio guidance)

3- If you watch video carefully you will observe they have included unrelated clips in this video at the beginning such as
- A simulated Dog fight scene b/w Su-35 & F-22
- ACM Sohail Aman Clip from the video of an operation during which he lead to bomb TTP after APC Peshawar incident
- A clip form the video of JF-17 demonstration in Paris Airshow

so it is not necessary that the screen which you are referring is related to REK integration .... specially when it is said in video that REK integration occurred after software/ Avionics upgrade

4- Keep in mind we are aware that software/ Avionics upgrade occurred for blk-2 configuration

5- We are also aware when initially blk-1 inducted it was inducted for ground operations without BVR capabilities but later BVR capabilities were also added so possibilities are
- its clip from some old video of blk-1 as Chinese option was not only available form beginning but shown number of time earlier in different airshows
- OR its totally unrelated as I find no reason to disbelieve the explicit declaration of PAC
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and It is quite understandable that they took their time to integrate it as their share of in house production of avionics is increasing.

You can try to justify all you want my friend, but the kit is FT-2 series that GIDS could be licensed producing it. The aircraft knows it better than you. And that GB10 can also be GBU-10, which is a 2000lb bomb.
They may have had to modify it and install the kit the other way around as dictated by aircraft's aerodynamics.

And FYI this is the picture that GIDS use for their REK. Does it look anywhere near to what's instal on the aircraft? I don't think so!

Edit: Actually if you watch the video again, you will see the bomb is gliding with its wings in upward position, so that means once the weapon is released it does a 180 degree turn then it starts to glide to its position. So the picture GIDS used is correct, but that also means it is very well a FT-2 series kit.

 

[khanasifm]

The number in the Ac fuselage circle showing 000 shows number of rounds max 180 for gsh 23 twin barrel gun

 

[HRK]

You can try to justify all you want my friend, but the kit is FT-2 series that GIDS could be licensed producing it. The aircraft knows it better than you. And that GB10 can also be GBU-10, which is a 2000lb bomb.
They may have had to modify it and install the kit the other way around as dictated by aircraft's aerodynamics.

And FYI this is the picture that GIDS use for their REK. Does it look anywhere near to what's instal on the aircraft? I don't think so!

bhai mera ... you are free to believe anything you want but a humble advice plz try to be more detail rather than just observing some superficial commonalities of design & rejecting others by saying

You can try to justify all you want

the attached pic which you are referring is the earlier version of REK previously term TAKBIR gild bomb (later re-branded as REK) exhibited in earlier IDEAS exhibition ....

(this one is earlier version of REK design for 250 KG bomb, exhibited during IDEAS exhibition)

Now plz have another look at Chinese LS-6 series with JF-17 during Dubai Airshow

LS-6 with JF-17 during flight

(You can observe the wing of glide bomb are at the top side)

(observe the wings of REK at the bottom)

I have already attached the pics of FT-2 in my previous post & posting here again for you to observe the commonalities of design of both LS & FT series of Chinese bomb

now answer when Chinese LS- & FT series are already available, integrated & exhibited number of times why there was a need to REINTEGRATE THE LICENCE COPY OF FT-2 (as per your understanding about REK) with JF-17 & that too under the title of INDIGENOUS STAND-OFF WEAPON .... ????

Edit: Actually if you watch the video again, you will see the bomb is gliding with its wings in upward position, so that means once the weapon is released it does a 180 degree turn then it starts to glide to its position.

I know ...

Observe wing position at the bottom

So the picture GIDS used is correct, but that also means it is very well a FT-2 series kit.

just how this thing prove that its FT-2 ....???

PAF is pursuing this program from 2002 or 2004 If I am not wrong .... & attain this capability in 2006 plz read
http://fp.brecorder.com/2006/03/20060301392873/
Pakistan gains capability to hit invisible target (scroll down to search the same heading)

 

[salman-1]

Does this system has a cartridge also inserted for providing data of target. I think yes it's the same as used by Israelis. Cartridge is inserted in the tail side section for where ins/gps system is working.

 

[Bilal Khan 777]

Yes!
By a private firm in Pakistan named Global Industrial and Defense Solutions (GIDS).
The REK (Range Extension Kit) is a kit for converting MK-80-series general purpose bombs (GPB) into satellite-aided inertial navigation system (GPS/INS)-guided bombs. In addition to the guidance unit, the REK is comprised of a tail-unit with aerodynamic control surfaces and glide wings which extends the range. As per GIDS, the REK has a range of 50-60 km and accuracy of less than 20m CEP.
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What Nonsense? GIDS is public sector firm of NESCOM. This is a AWC system.

 

[Arsalan]

What Nonsense? GIDS is public sector firm of NESCOM. This is a AWC system.

HEIN!!

You saying that this REK is by AWC and not GIDS?
What about the mention of the same on GIDS web page and all the reports here on this thread and elsewhere as well mentioning GIDS? There must be some confusion sir as either i am not understanding what you just said or perhaps was not able to explain myself properly in the first place.

 

[razgriz19]

bhai mera ... you are free to believe anything you want but a humble advice plz try to be more detail rather than just observing some superficial commonalities of design & rejecting others by saying

the attached pic which you are referring is the earlier version of REK previously term TAKBIR gild bomb (later re-branded as REK) exhibited in earlier IDEAS exhibition ....
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(this one is earlier version of REK design for 250 KG bomb, exhibited during IDEAS exhibition)

Now plz have another look at Chinese LS-6 series with JF-17 during Dubai Airshow
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LS-6 with JF-17 during flight
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(You can observe the wing of glide bomb are at the top side)
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(observe the wings of REK at the bottom)

I have already attached the pics of FT-2 in my previous post & posting here again for you to observe the commonalities of design of both LS & FT series of Chinese bomb

now answer when Chinese LS- & FT series are already available, integrated & exhibited number of times why there was a need to REINTEGRATE THE LICENCE COPY OF FT-2 (as per your understanding about REK) with JF-17 & that too under the title of INDIGENOUS STAND-OFF WEAPON .... ????


I know ...

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Observe wing position at the bottom



just how this thing prove that its FT-2 ....???

PAF is pursuing this program from 2002 or 2004 If I am not wrong .... & attain this capability in 2006 plz read
http://fp.brecorder.com/2006/03/20060301392873/
Pakistan gains capability to hit invisible target (scroll down to search the same heading)

That's how

Wing position is on top. Either its a different bomb, or the bomb changes its flight profile after release.

 

[Arsalan]

That's how

Wing position is on top. Either its a different bomb, or the bomb changes its flight profile after release.

It does rotate after drop so that the wings come on top. The video shows that! Also it makes more sense talking aerodynamically.

 

[Bilal Khan 777]

HEIN!!

You saying that this REK is by AWC and not GIDS?
What about the mention of the same on GIDS web page and all the reports here on this thread and elsewhere as well mentioning GIDS? There must be some confusion sir as either i am not understanding what you just said or perhaps was not able to explain myself properly in the first place.

You have no idea what GIDS is. I have no reason to argue with you. The confusion is on your part. GIDS is not private.

As you guys will keep on observing, there is obviously more than one REK program.

 

[TaimiKhan]

You have no idea what GIDS is. I have no reason to argue with you. The confusion is on your part. GIDS is not private.

As you guys will keep on observing, there is obviously more than one REK program.

Sir, i believe the other name for AWC is AERO and all such companies come under GIDS, umbrella irganization. Many of the products supposedly made by AWC are marketed by GIDS.