FC-31 v2.0 First flight 2016.12.23

[CHINA83NEWS]

We should cooperate.Tailored for Pakistan a fighter, so better able to adapt to the needs of Pakistan's national defense

I am in shenyang, where are you from?

 

[CriticalThought]

China is in a league of its own. Can FC-31 be implement if without any other countries involvement? Sure it can.

It's better China just lead this project alone.

Apologies for my limited knowledge, but what I have learnt from my young Chinese friends is that the newer generation is shunning the historical notion of Chinese exceptionalism and supremacy held since 2000 BC. I could be interpreting this completely wrong, please dont take offense i would like to learn more

 

[Rafi]

PAF has been offered "partnership" in the

Yesterday a Pakistani member said he want Tukey put liscensed produced EJ200 on FC31, I like the idea.


FC31 stand a chance in Pla navy to replace J15.

There is less than zero chance of F35 entering PAF. J31 is the most likely. We are being offered full partnership status.

 

[CHINA83NEWS]

First Pakistan's air defense early warning system for supporting

 

[艹艹艹]

I am in shenyang, where are you from?

guy, do not need to know where I come from? You just need to know I come from“江湖”

 

[CHINA83NEWS]

guy, do not need to know where I come from? You just need to know I come from“江湖”

果然老司机

 

[Dazzler]

Don't forget Saudi, if USA don't sell them the F35A. We sold ballistic missile to them, one of the best Chinese friend in the Middle East.

Dont forget these babes..

 

[帅的一匹]

PAF has been offered "partnership" in the

There is less than zero chance of F35 entering PAF. J31 is the most likely. We are being offered full partnership status.

One day if I see FC31 in PAF's color, like dream come true.

J10 had missed its debut in PAF, I don't want PAF to miss FC31 again.

 

[艹艹艹]

Dont forget these babes..

PLZ-45/ 155mm ?

 

[帅的一匹]

https://view.inews.qq.com/a/MIL2016122401632303 FC31 weapon bay configurations

It can carry maximum 12 SD10A, Allah! Six in the bay and six at wing stations.

 

[I FLY HIGH]

Did anyone notice that the FC31 V2 don't have head up display same as F35 ? I think FC31 now is a back up plan for PAF, serve as a stepping stone to Get F35A. If they can't get F35, FC31 is there for them. But it might cause delay in 5 than gen fighter induction. SAC will do its best to suit PAF's desire for F35, means they will incorporate lots of F35 tech in FC31.

i dont see any possibility of F35, Pak is ally of China now and does not suit for USA to give Pak F35 . Even F 16 is not possible. Well i like this streategy of PAF to increase the bar of performance for tech chinese team to increase the performance of FC 31 to the level of F35 . Its good but PAF only has a FC31 option for 5th gen plane.

 

[帅的一匹]

i dont see any possibility of F35, Pak is ally of China now and does not suit for USA to give Pak F35 . Even F 16 is not possible. Well i like this streategy of PAF to increase the bar of performance for tech chinese team to increase the performance of FC 31 to the level of F35 . Its good but PAF only has a FC31 option for 5th gen plane.

Pakistan sacrifice lots by siding with China, we make sure you will gain lot more than what you lost. Mark my word!

i dont see any possibility of F35, Pak is ally of China now and does not suit for USA to give Pak F35 . Even F 16 is not possible. Well i like this streategy of PAF to increase the bar of performance for tech chinese team to increase the performance of FC 31 to the level of F35 . Its good but PAF only has a FC31 option for 5th gen plane.

The higher demand PAF pose on FC31, the better performance FC31 will give out in the future. Don't give SAC time to leisure, keep push them.

 

[sohail.ishaque]

Pakistan has three choice:
1. FC31
2. TfX
3. f35

F35 ? no chance, neither USA wants to give to us nor our people have much trust in them,.. so its out of question..

TFX,. its still a long way, if we plan for it then i think India will ahve their 5th gen fighters before us and also Rafale will make a very strong combo that Pak won't b able to counter,.

So the only realistic option i believe is FC31,. it'll in time and would b ideal to counter Rafale and other 5th gen options that India goes for in the future.

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

No way in hell. It will be ready by 2020. We're talking about Chinese here, not uncle sam.

It could be in mass production by 2020, provided final basic design is produced and accepted by mid 2017. This would give 1.5 years for systems, weapons and tactic development with a short batch production of 15-18 aircraft. This was the way JF-17 was developed.. 50 aircraft per block and in 5-7 years this aircraft would be fully developed into an advance 5th gen aircraft.

No way, that is way too early.

Really! Have you heard the Idiom
"Early bird catches the worm"

I think it will be avaliable for production in 2021 ...

Chinese and Pakistani development methodology is different ... like J10 and JF 17 it will enter low rate production and while we will be making strategies the development will continue and there will be block 2 with removal of all the issues ...

This is the benefits of having state owned manufacturer ... unlikely like LM and Boeing which will be charging separately for everything ....

Well China uses both methodologies.

J-10's followed the concept of J-11's before they were upgraded, hence you can see that those aircraft are in very high numbers. There upgrades were produced in the same way as LM and Boeing.

Where as PAF invented a new concept which would keep the cost of production and upgrade low, hence JF-17 were manufactured in blocks of 50. This allowed PAF to upgrade as well as manufacture the upgraded aircraft simultaneously as well as continue development of next block.

Yo I got a question,

Why do all the people I have met on this forum love the J-31 so much?

Well this does not put any limit on the love for the F-16's on this forum. You can not quantify love period.

Do note, that LM had Pakistan on its marketing list till 2014, listed as a potential customer by 2025 (I assume that's because they had calculated some growth in Pakistan's economy). But they removed Pakistan from the list.

Sir, the basis LM thought PAF would be a potential customer by 2025 was not based on the fact of economic growth but on the delivery of fifth generation platforms to India. In 2014 T-50 PAK-FA project faced financial problems due to falling oil prices and low economic growth in Russia. India also panicked at this to rush for procurement of Rafales as well as saw the local AMCA to be shelved.

Moreover TFX project was also introduced and the Turks advertised Pakistan to be interested in this, though till now no official conformation or denial has come from Pakistan.

If PAF decided to purchase F-35's it has time till 2022 till then the F-16 can be operated.

Did anyone notice that the FC31 V2 don't have head up display same as F35 ? I think FC31 now is a back up plan for PAF, serve as a stepping stone to Get F35A. If they can't get F35, FC31 is there for them. But it might cause delay in 5 than gen fighter induction. SAC will do its best to suit PAF's desire for F35, means they will incorporate lots of F35 tech in FC31.

The reason could be a next generation helmet might be under development.

Yesterday a Pakistani member said he want Tukey put liscensed produced EJ200 on FC31, I like the idea.

If this happened then PAF would also request for EJ200 for JF-17 and option of TFX opens up a the replacement of F-16's.
A J31 with EJ-200 also opens up GCC market.

FC31 stand a chance in Pla navy to replace J15.

It would be a very interesting development. What new technologies would be seen...

Don't forget Saudi, if USA don't sell them the F35A. We sold ballistic missile to them, one of the best Chinese friend in the Middle East.

KSA wold go for TFX to replace EFT and J-31 would replace tornados in my opinion.

 

[帅的一匹]

Why Turkey develop TFX while buy F35? I think they are quite ambitious.