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FBI arrests two for being allegedly on ISI payroll

Greeting friends. Glad to be here after a long time.

The guy who was caught is a spy working under the cover of lobbyist. Nothing unique about this, as every country in the world does it in a clandestine environment. Mossad is the grand daddy of this game.

But spying is a crime in USA, so he will be prosecuted. This will also strain the already fragile relationship. IMO, it is stupid to have used the Kashmir cover for spying. This is a dent for the sincerely needed Kashmir support in congress. So much for Pakistani support for Kashmiri's self determination.
 
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Greeting friends. Glad to be here after a long time.

The guy who was caught is a spy working under the cover of lobbyist. Nothing unique about this, as every country in the world does it in a clandestine environment. Mossad is the grand daddy of this game.

But spying is a crime in USA, so he will be prosecuted. This will also strain the already fragile relationship. IMO, it is stupid to have used the Kashmir cover for spying. This is a dent for the sincerely needed Kashmir support in congress. So much for Pakistani support for Kashmiri's self determination.

Messr Fai and Ahmad are not charged with Espionage, to the best of my knowledge - and of course the government alleges Messrs Fai and Ahmad as foreign agents - the US government it seems is not above using it's citizens as pawns in their policy against Pakistan
 
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Greeting friends. Glad to be here after a long time.

The guy who was caught is a spy working under the cover of lobbyist. Nothing unique about this, as every country in the world does it in a clandestine environment. Mossad is the grand daddy of this game.

But spying is a crime in USA, so he will be prosecuted.

he wasn't charged for espionage or being a spy, just failure to register his status, is all. his attorney will handle this and very likely he'll get out of it by paying a fine.
 
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And this is coming from a country which wants us to free that American Agent i.e Doctor Afridi - I hope that doctor is tortured and put to death.I certainly think this is linked with US Foreign Policy.
 
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Messr Fai and Ahmad are not charged with Espionage, to the best of my knowledge - and of course the government alleges Messrs Fai and Ahmad as foreign agents - the US government it seems is not above using it's citizens as pawns in their policy against Pakistan

Well, What is good for goose should be good for gandor. If Pakistan has right to apprehend its citizens who co-operated with US in OBL's capture (which was cheered by many pakistani posters), US has every right to apprehend citizens who co-operate with ISI.
 
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Messr Fai and Ahmad are not charged with Espionage, to the best of my knowledge - and of course the government alleges Messrs Fai and Ahmad as foreign agents - the US government it seems is not above using it's citizens as pawns in their policy against Pakistan

My friend: When it comes to individual liberty and freedom, US triumphs every nation in the world. These are fundamental right, guaranteed in the bill of right/constitution and can't be taken away easily as you suggest. The prosecutors have to prove the case. Not an easy task unless you have solid evidence. Why do you have to be so defensive about this? Many countries are involved in spying. The timing could be to bring pressure on Pakistan. Typically the spy movements are monitored over a period of time so that the entire ring can be dismantled. Guess they would have been on his back for quite some time. Last year FBI busted a Russian ring with 6+ spies. They ended up getting exchanged for US spies in Russia
 
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No is questioning the right of the US to do whatever - Dr. Afridi has been outed by the CIA itself, Messrs Fai and Ahmad, are US citizens, the government alleges are acting in the capacity of unregistered agents of a foreign power -- The US government had also alleged that Mr. Rana Tasawur was acting in the capacity of the agent of a foreign intelligence service, the government could not prove it's case - The defendants life and reputation suffered, and the Governments reputation? it seems in the GWOT, the US governments reputation and the struggle between republic and Empire, is not a priority concern.
 
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these kinda news always emerge when eva Americans r paying a visit to india........ yanks want india to sign the f**king deals ..... Hillary is pushing hard.. O'Yeah babe...... hmmmmmm :P
 
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Congratulations to the sole superpower on arresting a 60 year old man on weak charges and portraying him as some super duper spy for doinign what hundreds of other lobbyists do and for supporting the UN resolution for allowing a vote for the future of Kashmir.

Good job US, be proud of the depths you have sunk to.
 
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Pakistani Spies Spent Millions Lobbying US
WASHINGTON (AP) — For years, the Pakistani spy agency funneled millions of dollars to a Washington nonprofit group in a secret effort to influence Congress and the White House, the Justice Department said Tuesday in court documents that are certain to complicate already strained relations between the U.S. and Pakistan.

FBI agents arrested Syed Ghulam Nabi Fai, the executive director of the Kashmiri American Council, on Tuesday and charged him with being an unregistered agent of a foreign government. Under the supervision of a senior member of Pakistan's spy agency, Inter-Services Intelligence, Fai donated money to political campaigns, wrote newspaper op-eds, organized congressional trips and met with White House and State Department officials.

"I believe that Fai has received approximately $500,000 to $700,000 per year from the government of Pakistan," FBI agent Sarah Webb Linden said in documents filed in federal court in Alexandria, Virginia.

Officially, the Kashmiri American Council had a much smaller budget and told the U.S. government that it received no foreign grants, according to Internal Revenue Service documents. Pakistan was financing similar operations in London and Brussels, the Justice Department said.

The Pakistani Embassy quickly issued a statement saying the government had no knowledge of such an arrangement.

A second man, Zaheer Ahmad, also was charged. Prosecutors said he recruited people to act as straw donors who would give money to the Kashmiri American Council that really was coming from the Pakistani government. Ahmad is not under arrest and is in Pakistan, prosecutors said. Both men are U.S. citizens.

Prosecutors said the Kashmiri American Council was being run in secret by the Pakistani government. Fai coordinated his activities with his ISI handlers and often communicated in coded emails, the FBI said. Pakistani officials reviewed Fai's budget and told him what to do and with whom to meet.

"You are aware that we have been working together for the cause for over a decade now," Fai wrote in an email to a senior ISI official in 1995. "All these years, I have closely worked with you and others who came before you. It has taken us much time, energy, dedication, strategy and planning to achieve our common cause."

Fai, 62, appeared before a federal magistrate judge, who ordered him jailed until a detention hearing Thursday afternoon. Prosecutor Gordon Kromberg said Fai faces up to five years in prison if convicted.

A soft-spoken father of two, Fai is a leading voice in the debate over the future of Kashmir, the mountainous border area that India and Pakistan have fought over for years. He supports the pro-Pakistan viewpoint that Kashmiris should vote on whether to be part of Pakistan or India. India claims the territory as its own.

He is perhaps best known in Washington for organizing the annual Kashmir Peace Conference at the Congress. The event is billed as an independent forum for Indian and Pakistani voices, but the Justice Department said the Pakistani government approved the speakers and gave Fai talking points to highlight. Photo galleries on the group's website include images of him alongside Pakistani Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani.

Israr Mirza, the former president of the Pakistani Student Association at George Mason University, recalled hearing Fai speak at a February event his organization hosted on India-Pakistan relations.

"I don't see him as a spy or anything. He's an old gentleman," said Mirza, who has since graduated from George Mason. "He seemed like a very collected guy. He was speaking just to promote peace."

Though the charges are not related to espionage, the arrest adds another strain to the already difficult relationship between the U.S. and Pakistan, which suffered after the U.S. found Osama bin Laden hiding inside Pakistan and killed him without telling the government there.

ISI has a complicated relationship with U.S. intelligence. The agency is a crucial ally against terrorists but also works against the U.S. at times, including running double agents against the CIA.

"Dr. Fai and the Kashmiri freedom movement have nothing to do with the ISI," said Nadim Malik, a close associate of Fai and the executive director of the advocacy group Kashmir Mission USA.

Fai has donated to congressional campaigns of both parties for years. His donations include $250 to President Barack Obama in 2008; a total of $4,500 to the National Republican Senatorial Committee in 2004 and 2008; and $250 to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee in 2009. Prosecutors said none of the recipients knew the organization was a front for money from Pakistan. :rofl:

Zahid Bukhari, the president of the Islamic Circle of North America who says he has known Fai for years and used to teach at Georgetown University, said he found the accusations stunning.

"It doesn't make any sense," Bukhari said. "He's dedicated his whole life on that cause."
 
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The article headlines millions but the figure doesnt cross more than few thousands. First hints of framing bogus charges..someone took too much consultation from hollywood or may be they outsourced it to bollywood. He could be called a paid PR agents but nothing to assume his activities nudged spying or espionage. It looks like frustrated american response to raymond davis fiasco. They just got to have a comeback even if it looks comical. On the flip side, think about it..ISI must be really good..there is no doubt that ISI also operates in the USA and so far none of its actual agents have been discovered by FBI..L L L LOserr!
 
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So, all this natak of KAC on Kashmir was because of Pakistani money. Another facade of Pakistan crumbles.

It will not be long time before the London and Brussels Kashmir centers get closed for the same reason.
 
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why I am getting this feeling US is after Pakistan, good news if it is that way.
All indian members discard my this comment because this comment is only for this weird person!

Seems like you are so desperate to have USA after Pakistan since your mighty country with the population of 1.2 billion can't handle it and you need help of 300 million farangies. but guess what? if Pakistan can handle your kind of 1.2 billion people then 300 million is nothing for her;), and this shows that how much aman ki ashah people like you have. Your comment was way bellow the belt and needed a response to your level of understanding, now buzz off, you are a rabbit why don't you find yourself female rabbit to screw instead of defence.pk!!!
 
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