What's new

Fazlullah escapes to Afghanistan

"On Monday the US embassy denied reports that the US ‘has shifted Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) Chief Hakimullah Mehsud and the other Taliban leadership to Afghanistan."

Who made these reports? Can somebody provide a link to this report that America transported Hakimullah Mehsud and others, please?
 
.
I have to wonder if you deliberatley raise this time and again because you some how failed to find 5years of Al-queda admitting to the attack or simply because it does not fit with your pro-taliban propoganda role?

Naah, its because I fail to swallow your version of truth. As for your other question, do I really need to google it for you. I think you can manage.
 
.
What does this mean? That Blackwater and drone attacks are the things he blames for his retreat? Or is he pretending (now that he's left the country) to be concerned about Pakistani sovereignty?

I think he is being sarcastic ... challenging the GoP to stop the drones if they have any power
 
.
Karzai Claims Mystery Helicopters Ferrying Taliban to North Afghanistan

By: Andrew McGregor

While the Western press has been occupied recently with accounts of fraudulent elections in Afghanistan and the alleged role of President Hamid Karzai’s brother as a paid CIA agent, a stranger but perhaps more instructive story was playing out in Afghanistan that reveals the rather shallow penetration NATO and Coalition efforts have made in building trust and confidence in that country, as well as giving some indication of what can be expected from a Karzai administration that does not sense full support from its former backers in the West as it begins a second term. In addition the controversy demonstrates the very different perceptions of the counterterrorism struggle in the West and in Afghanistan.

For several weeks now, Afghanistan has been consumed by stories of mysterious “foreign helicopters” ferrying Taliban fighters to a new front in northern Afghanistan. These helicopters are alleged by no less than President Karzai to belong to “foreign powers” such as the United States and its allies. The helicopters are said to land in remote regions, but their activity has supposedly been noted by nomads who travel through the deserts of Baghlan and Kunduz province (Hasht-e Sobh, October 13).

Without mentioning guilty parties or offering evidence, President Karzai suggested the reports of helicopters delivering terrorists to north Afghanistan were true, saying, “We have received reliable reports from our intelligence service. We have received reliable reports from our people, and today I received a report that these efforts [to transfer Taliban fighters] are also being made mysteriously in the northwest. The issue of helicopters has also been proved. We do not make any more comments now and investigations are under way to see to whom and to which foreign country these helicopters belong” (Tolo TV, October 11). According to Karzai, the “unknown” helicopters had been taking Taliban fighters to Baghlan, Kunduz and Samangan provinces in northern Afghanistan. The president’s remarks were quickly followed by a call from the Lower House speaker, Muhammad Yunis Qanuni, for a government debate on the issue. “When the president of Afghanistan, as the first man of the country, is raising a fact and a problem, then it shows that the problem is important and serious.” According to Takhar MP Habiba Danesh, the helicopter airlifts were already underway before the elections (Tolo TV [Kabul], October 13; Ferghana.ru, October 12; Hasht-e Sobh [Kabul], October 13).

Kunduz governor Muhammad Omar claimed the fighters being brought to his province at night were members of the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU), a group that recently lost its longtime leader Tahir Yuldash and is now hard pressed by the Pakistani government in South Waziristan, their home since 2001. The governor pointed to the detention of 15 militants by U.S. Special Forces south of Kunduz, whom he described as supporters of the late Tahir Yuldash (Afghan Islamic Press, October 11; Eurasia.net, October 13). At the same time, the governor noted the security situation in his province was improving (Tolo TV, October 11). The governor of Baghlan province, Muhammad Akbar Barakzai, also claims to have received intelligence that unidentified military helicopters are making midnight landings in remote areas of his province (Tolo TV, October 21).

Dr. Abdullah Abdullah, Karzai’s former rival for the presidency, accuses the Afghan government of being behind the transfer of Taliban fighters to the northern provinces. “They have sent to the north of the country the most evil people, the most notorious and criminal people who are involved in killing the people of Afghanistan and crime against the people of Afghanistan… I have the names of these people; they sent them to the north by helicopters so that they carry out their mission. Is this a government?” (Tolo TV, October 11).

Iran’s state television network, Press TV, sought to exploit the controversy by adding a large number of details to the helicopter story in an October 17 report, all according to unnamed “diplomats”:

• The British Army was responsible for relocating Taliban fighters with Chinook helicopters to the northern provinces from Helmand province in south Afghanistan (though this might come as a surprise to critics of the UK’s Ministry of Defence, who have suggested the military has not provided enough transport helicopters to meet British needs – BBC, August 30).

• The death of Afghan interpreter Sultan Munadi in a September British Special Forces raid that freed a New York Times reporter from Taliban captivity, has already been a controversial issue in Afghanistan, with repeated calls for an inquiry into the circumstances of his death. Press TV claimed Munadi was killed during the raid by a British sniper because he had documents and photographs verifying the British role in the alleged airlift.

• American forces were supplying the Taliban militants in north Afghanistan with weapons seized during the 2001 invasion. Most date back to the era of Soviet occupation.

• Afghan Interior Minister Mohammad Hanif Atmar, a British educated Pashtun, was working under the direction of the UK. The Interior Ministry has funneled arms to the newly relocated Taliban through Pashtun police officers. The distribution of arms to Taliban fighters by the Afghan police was also reported by Kabul daily Arman-e Melli on October 13.

Not all Afghan officials believe in the nocturnal activities of the “mystery helicopters.” Amrullah Saleh, the chief of the National Directorate of Security (NDS – the Tajik-dominated national security agency), dismissed the helicopter reports, as did many other members of Afghanistan’s security services. Amrullah maintains that the reports are designed solely with the intention of reducing trust in Western forces engaged in Afghanistan (Hasht-e Sobh, October 13). Even a member of Karzai’s campaign team, MP Nur Akbari, noted diplomatically that the president’s assertions were “unexpected,” saying that security officials had not provided any such information in the past (Hasht-e Sobh, October 13). President Karzai’s endorsement of the “mystery helicopter” theory compelled U.S. ambassador to Afghanistan Karl Eikenberry to issue a clear denial of “the rumors about the reinforcement of the Afghan government’s armed opposition in the north by the U.S.A. These rumors are baseless” (Tolo TV, October 14).

Nevertheless, one Afghan daily reported widespread belief in the “mystery helicopter” phenomenon. “The people strongly believe that these helicopters belong to the British and U.S. forces. They also believe that these helicopters have transferred some armed residents of the neighboring provinces to northern provinces and the killing of several armed men from these areas in the north seem to confirm this issue” (Arman-e Melli [Kabul], October 13).

It was not long before the “mystery helicopters” were seen in Pakistan, where the “foreign allies” of the Tehrik-e Taliban Pakistan (TTP) were alleged to be rescuing Taliban militants from the government offensive in South Waziristan. An Islamabad daily reported the belief of “some experts” that the airlift was part of a deal between the Western nations and the so-called “good Taliban” (Pakistan Observer [Islamabad], October 19).

Existing rumors of a Western airlift of Taliban fighters were no doubt adopted and exploited by the Karzai administration to express its displeasure with the West’s refusal to rubber stamp his election victory, but they mask a more serious problem – how has the Taliban managed to expand its operations in the north and what can be done to stop it before the Taliban is in a position to interfere with vital NATO supply lines that cross the region? By endorsing such rumors, President Karzai appears ready to endanger years of Western civil and military efforts in Afghanistan if he feels it necessary to ensure his domestic political survival.

http://www.myantiwar.org/view/190945.html
 
. . .
. .
Guys, he supposedly called just one reporter, how does this news make it so authentic ?? Have we seen confirmations from multiple sources? Has he called any other reputed reporter or organization ?

Also, if he calls himself doesn't he knows his location can be compromised, even if he is in Afghanistan, the area of his stay can be found. And if he is calling himself, wouldn't it give a negative impression to his followers that their leader has ran away and staying hundreds of miles away from them.

It can be a hoax call, so that army lowers its guard in Swat who are trying to find him. The Afghan telecom operators have roaming services too, the number may be Afghan but it may be in Pakistan, as recently news of militants using international numbers inside Pakistan has surfaced so that they can not be detected by using local mobile numbers.

Let the news get confirmed through reliable sources, then i believe speculations and discussions would be more fruitful and required.
 
.
I think the good Taliban might have given him sanctuary.

A lot of the TTP taliban with their foreign friends, specially from the recent operation in Bajaur and Mohmand and other areas crossed into Afghanistan and staying there as no one on the other side of the border is there to check their infiltration and hideouts. The recent increase in violence in Bajaur and the news of a major Bajaur TTP Afghan origin commander Zia Ur Rehman fleeing to Afghanistan and recent news of his offer to TTP Bajaur Chapter head Maulvi Faqir to come to Afghanistan and take a refuge is a good example to demonstrate that even TTP has a good network on the other side of the border and as per recent study, no so called good taliban are there on this side of the border with bajaur, mohmand etc area.
 
.
We should gather intel and make cruise missile strikes at our targets in Afghanistan.We can also test our missiles then.
 
.
Hope this is news s true. In such a situation Pakistan will change its heart about Afghani Taliban. These Taliban(TTP and AFghanistani) are cancer and making Pakisanis and Afghanistanis sick, they must be removed.
 
.
No proof of Fazlullah escape: Malik

Interior Minister Rehman Malik said on Wednesday that nation stands behind security forces to defeat terrorism in the country and steps like computerization of criminals would help achieve the task. He was talking to media persons after launching of E-Enablement system linking all police stations of the capital. Under the E-Enablement all record and data of police stations have been computerized. Replying to a question, he said the government was investigating whether Maulana Fazalullah was in FATA or in Afghanistan, adding terrorists are using Bajur-Kunar border for movement between the two countries. He said that no proof of Fazlullah’s escape from the country has been received.
No proof of Fazlullah escape: Malik | Pakistan | News | Newspaper | Daily | English | Online
 
.
I have to wonder if you deliberatley raise this time and again because you some how failed to find 5 years of Al-queda admitting to the attack or simply because it does not fit with your pro-taliban propoganda role?

Watch the tape read the 500 sites that talk about it and please stop this bullshit about 9/11 being an inside job.

Like I said, this bullshit is proven by your very own. Hard to swallow isn't it.

Flashback: CIA and the Israeli Mossad did 9/11

Cossiga, the man who set up Operation Gladio tells Italy’s largest newspaper attacks were run by the USA’s CIA and the Israeli Mossad.

Exploding across the Internet in one of the biggest bombshells to date, is the thoughts from a man who has had inside knowledge of these kinds of things since the get-go. He’s also dying from cancer and has nothing left to lose. He’s been an insider to the intelligence community for decades and well-respected in Italy. He says, along with himself, that it’s now a common belief among current intelligence people that 9/11 was, indeed, an inside job!

He’s one of the people who revealed the existence of a top-secret CIA plan in Europe during the cold war that used “false-flag” operations designed to paint any pro-Soviet groups in Europe as terrorists. This was a careful scheme to plant double agents within the lefty ranks and also to use bombing and assassination to make those commies look evil to the general population (somethings never change). The plan was called Operation Gladio.

Cossiga revealed all of this to the Italian Parliament in the year 2000. His honesty and integrity over the entire matter made him beloved by his people and yet the powers that be, used his revelations to force him out of office for exposing the real deal. Now, he’s saying that the attack on the US was an obvious false flag event staged by the CIA along with the Israeli Mossad to give them an excuse to do what they will in the Mideast:

Former Italian President and the man who revealed the existence of Operation Gladio, Francesco Cossiga, has gone public on 9/11, telling Italy’s most respected newspaper that the attacks were run by the CIA and Mossad and that this was common knowledge amongst global intelligence agencies.

Ex-Italian President: Intel Agencies Know 9/11 An Inside Job

If you can read Italian, here’s the source newspaper: Corriere della Sera, it’s supposed to be Italy’s oldest and most widely respected Newspaper. Evidently the Jews have yet to buy them out! [http://www.corriere.it/politica/07_novembre_30/osama_berlusconi_cossiga_27f4ccee-9f55-11dc-8807-0003ba99c53b.shtml]

Everywhere, on the Internet people are talking. All kinds of perfectly legitimate people are looking at the evidence with an open-mindedness that defies the black-out and ridicule tactics of the mainstream media –controlled by the Zionist Jews.

Architects, Engineers, Scientists, Pilots and the like, are all joining the 9/11 truth movement –all across the land. People are calling on the government to reopen the 9/11 investigation and not to ignore the evidence that the 9/11 Commission blatantly turned their backs on when the Bush Jew Philip Zelikow ran things. Truth has a funny way of making it out. All of these Zionist gambits are now being exposed for what they truly are: Perfidy on a massive scale!


Sure do look like a bunch of NeoNazis to me! Right.​

But make clear note about one thing and read this upcoming paragraph twice if you have to:

The Jew is now attempting to hide once again! That’s right. He’s mobilizing the anti-Racists activists, Liberal/Progressive groups into thinking that the whole thing is nothing but some giant Bush/Cheney Neocon Nazi plot! He’s using his favorite tactic by calling everything “Nazi,” as usual. Make clear note on how the Media has hidden all these things from you and who owns the media in the first place? The Zionist, Globalist Jew. His media has been trying to paint all of this 9/11 thing as crazy talk for 6 years and now he’s trying to give himself a political vehicle to hide himself from the real truths bursting out all over.

Don’t let them get away with this!

“I am forced to conclude that 9/11 was at a minimum allowed to happen as a pretext for war (see my review of Jim Bamford’s “Pretext for War”), and I am forced to conclude that there is sufficient evidence to indict (not necessarily convict) Dick Cheney, Karl Rove and others of a neo-conservative neo-Nazi coup d’etat and kick-off of the clash of civilizations (see my review of “Crossing the Rubicon” as well as “State of Denial”). Most fascinatingly, the author links Samuel Huntington, author of “Clash of Civilizations” with Leo Strauss, the connecting rod between Nazi fascists and the neo-cons.”http://infowars.net/articles/October2006/231006Steele.htm

These people are attempting to describe the Neocons as being Neo-Nazi! Unbelievable! The Neocons have always been predominately Jewish and were once described by Israeli press as being “warm Jews,” meaning they were Israel-Firsters– totally supporting the Zionist state from their positions of power within Washington, DC.

And I guess that the Zionist, Dual Citizens of Israel Michael Chertoff and our new Attorney General, Michael Mukasey are really secret Nazis after-all!

This Jew/Nazi gambit actually works with some of the brain-dead since they just refuse to look at the real facts to the on-going Jewish manipulations of race politics and the mass media brainwashing of this country. It’s simply astounding to me that they believe any of it, since the media is obviously in cahoots with the whole government ”al-Qaeda theory” and owned by the Zionist Jews. Imagine, if you will, if the US media was truly free and that Cheney was an Evil Nazi Dictator behind 9/11? Then, they would be “like so busted” within 6 months of 9/11!

No, the Zionist Mossad has his fingerprints all over 9/11. And the US media has been totally complicit in hiding this fact from the American people. They’ve been hiding the North American Union, the Globalist’s schemes like NAFTA against you and all of the Zionist apartheid behavior in Israel. And now they’ll expect you to believe that their hands are quite clean of all this and it’s been nothing but another Nazi plot. Oh the horrors –not those evil Nazis again!

Many people on the Internet are now calling the Jews “ZioNazi” to turn the tables on this game. Plus, it’s an apt description considering all of the Nazi-like behavior of the Zionists towards the Palestinians in Israel. In fact, I’m considering using it, as well.

–Phillip Marlowe

Man who set up Operation Gladio tells Italy's largest newspaper attacks were run by CIA, Mossad

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Tuesday, December 4, 2007



Former Italian President and the man who revealed the existence of Operation Gladio Francesco Cossiga has gone public on 9/11, telling Italy's most respected newspaper that the attacks were run by the CIA and Mossad and that this was common knowledge amongst global intelligence agencies.

Cossiga was elected President of the Italian Senate in July 1983 before winning a landslide 1985 election to become President of the country in 1985.

Cossiga gained respect from opposition parties as one of a rare breed - an honest politician - and led the country for seven years until April 1992.

Cossiga's tendency to be outspoken upset the Italian political establishment and he was forced to resign after revealing the existence of, and his part in setting up, Operation Gladio - a rogue intelligence network under NATO auspices that carried out bombings across Europe in the 60's, 70's and 80's.

Gladio's specialty was to carry out what they coined "false flag operations," terror attacks that were blamed on their domestic and geopolitical opposition.

Cossiga's revelations contributed to an Italian parliamentary investigation of Gladio in 2000, during which evidence was unearthed that the attacks were being overseen by the U.S. intelligence apparatus.

In March 2001, Gladio agent Vincenzo Vinciguerra stated, in sworn testimony, "You had to attack civilians, the people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple: to force ... the public to turn to the state to ask for greater security."

Cossiga's new revelations appeared last week in Italy's oldest and most widely read newspaper, Corriere della Sera. Below appears a rough translation.

"[Bin Laden supposedly confessed] to the Qaeda September [attack] to the two towers in New York [claiming to be] the author of the attack of the 11, while all the [intelligence services] of America and Europe ... now know well that the disastrous attack has been planned and realized from the CIA American and the Mossad with the aid of the Zionist world in order to put under accusation the Arabic Countries and in order to induce the western powers to take part ... in Iraq [and] Afghanistan."

Cossiga first expressed his doubts about 9/11 in 2001, and is quoted in Webster Tarpley's book as stating that "The mastermind of the attack must have been a “sophisticated mind, provided with ample means not only to recruit fanatic kamikazes, but also highly specialized personnel. I add one thing: it could not be accomplished without infiltrations in the radar and flight security personnel.”

Coming from a widely respected former head of state, Cossiga's assertion that the 9/11 attacks were an inside job and that this is common knowledge amongst global intelligence agencies is highly unlikely to be mentioned by any establishment media outlets, because like the hundreds of other sober ex-government, military, air force professionals, allied to hundreds more professors and intellectuals - he can't be sidelined as a crackpot conspiracy theorist.

P.S. Pardon me for digressing from subject.
 
Last edited:
.
Perhaps Fazlullah really hasn't escaped and just wants us to believe that, thinking that means the drones and Blackwater hunters will be called off and then he won't have to hide like a trapped animal any more?
 
.

Latest posts

Pakistan Defence Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom