Crimson Blue
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I support this idea to improve civil rights situation in Pakistan:
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Ok, but who ensures the law is being applied to the actual criminals and not on innocents? Protesting is a constitutional right. Hundreds of thousands of people came out on May 9 to protest. All it takes is a few people to start fires and spread anarchy. Was it really all the 10 000+ people abducted that destroyed stuff and set fires? Better question, if it actually was 10 000+ people who did all that then what led them to do such a thing? Why is it possible for the call of a single person to send that many people to destroy army installations? What does that signal?So while the law is being applied selectively, it is still the law.
I've come to realize that one of the primary factors contributing to Bangladesh's creation is this institutions leadership mentality. Additionally, the failure of Pakistan to reclaim Kashmir from India can also be attributed to the leadership of this organization.Its not only Asim. The whole institution is in self survival mode. Even if it means abducting daughters and mothers, it will be done.
This is by design.
I've come to realize that one of the primary factors contributing to Bangladesh's creation is this institutions leadership mentality.
Fact is most military men are dumb and inept.I've come to realize that one of the primary factors contributing to Bangladesh's creation is this institutions leadership mentality. Additionally, the failure of Pakistan to reclaim Kashmir from India can also be attributed to the leadership of this organization.
Fact is most military men are dumb and inept.
and unfortunately due to nepotism these mules do rise to the top, as we can see with bajwa-munir etc. The problem is in human nature. We are prone to being praised. so when your ideas right or wrong are never challenged, you do start to believe your own bullshit. couple this with the jee sir system prevalent in pak in general (thanks brits) and take it to 11 in the forces. its actually bad for the leadership.This is not with regards to the current situation but as a whole.
Long time back when I was wanting to get into the army and gave all the tests and everything, and my family was persuading me not to join, a retired Maj Gen came to meet my father and I was there too.
He said keh beta, fauj ko aqalmand ya zaheen banday nhn chahiay hotay. Un ko aik aisa banda chahiay jo bas sar neechay kar kay, without question aik order manay. You only need one or two wise guys, the rest need to be mules. And to be fair, nothing wrong in this. Fauj ka yeh nizam hai.
Imagine if every officer starts questioning each order from above.
and unfortunately due to nepotism these mules do rise to the top, as we can see with bajwa-munir etc. The problem is in human nature. We are prone to being praised. so when your ideas right or wrong are never challenged, you do start to believe your own bullshit. couple this with the jee sir system prevalent in pak in general (thanks brits) and take it to 11 in the forces. its actually bad for the leadership.
This again?!
Go read the history, or at least how the 1970's general elections unfolded. But long story short, Awami League won by a landslide in East Pakistan. Bhutto and Yayha Khan didn't want any Awami League politicians in the federal government and Sheikh morphed it into a matter of race and culture and then flamed it all across.
The Bengali Mukti Bahini terrorists started attacking military outposts (which was later blamed on Pak Army, ironically enough) and slaughtered 150,000 Urdu Speaking Biharis, of which no one talks about.
What Pak Army did was self-defense. Plus, things weren't nearly as "intense" as you people claim. We didn't even have 92,000 military personnel deployed in East Pakistan, for crying out loud!
And then came India, urging the Sheikh to become Quaid-e-Azam 2.0 or whatever.
And who could've denied the opportunity?! The guy was in deep sh!t, not much unlike Imran Khan, heh!
Bippity, boppity, boo, Bangladesh happened!
Happy?
This again?!
Go read the history, or at least how the 1970's general elections unfolded. But long story short, Awami League won by a landslide in East Pakistan. Bhutto and Yayha Khan didn't want any Awami League politicians in the federal government and Sheikh morphed it into a matter of race and culture and then flamed it all across.
The Bengali Mukti Bahini terrorists started attacking military outposts (which was later blamed on Pak Army, ironically enough) and slaughtered 150,000 Urdu Speaking Biharis, of which no one talks about.
What Pak Army did was self-defense. Plus, things weren't nearly as "intense" as you people claim. We didn't even have 92,000 military personnel deployed in East Pakistan, for crying out loud!
And then came India, urging the Sheikh to become Quaid-e-Azam 2.0 or whatever.
And who could've denied the opportunity?! The guy was in deep sh!t, not much unlike Imran Khan, heh!
Bippity, boppity, boo, Bangladesh happened!
Happy?
Maj gen was 100%This is not with regards to the current situation but as a whole.
Long time back when I was wanting to get into the army and gave all the tests and everything, and my family was persuading me not to join, a retired Maj Gen came to meet my father and I was there too.
He said keh beta, fauj ko aqalmand ya zaheen banday nhn chahiay hotay. Un ko aik aisa banda chahiay jo bas sar neechay kar kay, without question aik order manay. You only need one or two wise guys, the rest need to be mules. And to be fair, nothing wrong in this. Fauj ka yeh nizam hai.
Imagine if every officer starts questioning each order from above.