If Pakistan armed forces can't get weapons from the US, it's understandable because you are being sanctioned. But, you can get weapons from European suppliers for the better such as Britain, France, Sweden and Germany, you are not being sanctioned by them I suppose, why are not then ?
France and Sweden have said they will not supply. German policies prohibit supply, even to India.
Even then, the PAF KEEPS going back to Sweden for Erieye's, which it has managed to procure.
Italy is providing SAMs for the Jinnah and Babur class, alongside the Yarmook Batch 2, NOT China.
China was even dropped from the Babur class weapons fit.
Why is Pakistan ditching the Chinese even for drones?
Why was Turkey selected to provide us with ships when the vessels were significantly more expensive?
The only time China has really been selected is when it meets the needs enough but comes in at a significantly cheaper cost. Type 054a? by no means a ship design for 2022, but why was it selected? It was still a capabilities improvement and a stop-gap until we can bolster fleet numbers with new procurements, it also came in at about half the cost of the Babur class project, per ship. More importantly, they were delivered faster also.
J-10C? Good plane, PAF would have taken F-16V any day over that though, even Rafales, Typhoons maybe, but F-16s or Rafales were the natural progressions, according to PAF personnel themselves.
VT-4, this one does make sense, there arent many tanks suited to our environment, it would have had to be Chinese or Russian origin anyway, may as well go for the best option..
This isnt to say the Chinese products are poor, however, there are many areas where they are still behind and shady Chinese business practices put customers off. Why hasn't PAF committed to the Chinese for a FGFA, or tried to replicate a JF-17 style venture with them for a fgfa? Because the Chinese left a bitter taste in the PAF's mouth. Whereas the PAF hasnt committed to Turkey due to uncertainty in the project.
Alas, then don't do any business with the Chinese, just do it with the West which is much better for you people.
Business with the Chinese is kept at a minimum, to the point where the basic needs are met, nothing more. If the contrary was the case, the PN would have licensed the 054a design and probably used that as the basis for future ships, not a corvette design that cost ATLEAST 2x what each 054a cost.
Another fake account with zero credibility posting make up story to smear China, typical tactics.
Let me ask u few simple questions. Do Pakistan has a serious corruption problem? It's Pakistan economy doing well and all sector of government well funded? If Pakistan can't come out with the fund, don't expect Chinese to fund spare for you.
China military products always charge little margin for customer. It makes no sense for China to lynch customer like Pakistan military who r short of funds. Countries like Saudi or UAE will be better choice if that is the case.
No, it does make sense to lynch Pakistan, because Pakistan has no other choice once contracts are signed. Go ahead with it or cause issues with strategically important equipment and pay HEFTY cancellation fees.
BTW, you can keep coping about fake account, just because my account is new, doesn't mean anything, im sure people are familiar with me, i was on twitter as @isipuppet, those who will recognise me know, my account has now been suspended so i stay away.
But no, the UAE and Saudi will tell you to go fk yourselves, neither country also has any significant quantities of Chinese gear anyway
Are you sure,
@iLION12345_1 is not a Pakistanis I guess...
Why avoid accepting the fact some Pakistanis are bend on bias against Chinese and some are easy to believe propaganda.
If the previous thread is not delete, I can easily shown u the proof to prove my words and shown u your wrong.
You can go VT-4 thread and see for yourself too.
So VT-4s did not come with defective engines? Why was there an import log that was a shipment of JUST VT4 engines and it was labelled as "replacement engines" as opposed to "spares" like the other shipments. Man, its not even a bad thing because it was a small qty, but this is just silly. Maybe head over to weibo if you want to be worshipped, we will talk real here
