Why are you posting statements from 2007...
We are in 2009...
In March all vendors start the testing of their fighters in india.
Selection to be made in October 2009.#
To HJ786.
Re: Your statement " have not said IAF has tech. superiority, I said FC-20 (as well as later versions of JF-17 and AESA upgraded F-16) will be just as good if not better than your MKI and even MMRCA.
R u indicating that the JF17 MAYBE superior to a Typhoon Rafael or F18SH
or block 70 F16in..with some upgrades..
These fighters come with supercruise engines TVC latest Avionics and radars with missles to match. They are built with compsite materials and have quaruplex FBW systems with very low RCS...
" WHISLT JF17 can be upgraded with a western radar or missle wat you cant do is just put in a new engine or add TVC or compsites WITH OUT MASSIVE STRUCTURAL CHANGES...
These features is wat makes J10 4 generation and on par with SU30 MKI
& mmrca WINNER.
For JF17 to get to that level you will to resdesign the whole fusalage
thats why JF17 is classed a 3rd generation fighter on par with early F16s or mig29...
"R u indicating that the JF17 MAYBE superior to a Typhoon Rafael or F18SH
or block 70 F16in..with some upgrades..These fighters come with supercruise engines TVC latest Avionics and radars with missles to match. They are built with compsite materials and have quaruplex FBW systems with very low RCS..."
So? Why does JF-17 need to supercruise? It only needs a better TWR ratio. Why does it need TVC? superhornet, typhoon and rafale do not need it, block-70 will probably not have it, why does JF- need it?
What do you know about JF-'s avionics? Even if JF- does not have latest avionics, these can be upgraded easily because they are MODULAR. Several websites have also reported that NRIET, the same company who made JF's current radar, is developing an AESA radar specifically for JF-17.
JF- will incorporate composite materials too. On production models, all control surfaces will be made of composites and % of composites will be increased with every tranche/block.
JF- has a digital FBW system.
Low RCS? You think those 4.5 gen fighters are stealth fighters? Nope. Anyway, PAF is thinking about modifying JF- with RCS reduction measures in future blocks - this is confirmed.
"WHISLT JF17 can be upgraded with a western radar or missle wat you cant do is just put in a new engine or add TVC or compsites WITH OUT MASSIVE STRUCTURAL CHANGES..."
WRONG. JF- is designed to take different engines - one of them being M-53. Why do you think the PAF Air Chief Marshal is saying they are looking for a western engine if one cannot be fitted? M-53, M-88 (EJ-200 as well I think) are being considered - they can be fitted to JF with some modification. The designers were never sure which engine would be selected - which engine should they have designed JF to take?
JF doesnt need TVC. Why are you so obsessed with TVC?
Yes they can add composites to JF without massive structural changes. How do I know that? Because they ARE adding composites to JF - this is confirmed.
JF-17 is not a 3rd gen fighter. It far better than early F-16s and Mig-29s. Have you even compared its specifications to F-16A and Mig-29? The ACM has already said JF's avionics/radar are much better than F-16A.