F-7P and F-7PG

[Super Falcon]

We should give them to nigeria and argentina for free as a gift for ordering thunder

 

[Saifullah]

There is already a good thread running on F7/F7PG.

F-7P and F-7PG

F-7PG's will still solider on for some time but will be replaced by thunders eventually. at best couple of years..all F7 are already retired and it would make more sense to get rid of mig21 and free supply line and focus on just niche mirage, jf17 and f16

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Merge this thread in the above or delete it.
@WebMaster.

 

[khanasifm]

I doubt the PG versions are going any time soon, remember these started arriving post 2002 stand off so they are less than 20 year old frames.#
I expect most Mirages to be out before the 7PGs.

Mirage fuselage with 8000 hours life vs f-7 2400 total hours [emoji6]

Mirage wings 2250 hours life plus mirages at pac can be rebuilt fuselage and wings rebuilt by using jigs provided by Australia
Paf has no plans to keep pg as jf-17 will replace them on next few years

Mirages have from airframe perspective still have far more life left

Anyway I will leave it at that

I rest my case [emoji6]

 

[Windjammer]

Mirage fuselage with 8000 hours life vs f-7 2400 total hours [emoji6]

Mirage wings 2250 hours life plus mirages at pac can be rebuilt fuselage and wings rebuilt by using jigs provided by Australia
Paf has no plans to keep pg as jf-17 will replace them on next few years

Mirages have from airframe perspective still have far more life left

Anyway I will leave it at that

I rest my case [emoji6]

But you should also keep in mind that PAF acquired the PGs in middle of hostilities with India.....not just to fire sidewinders as even the A-5s had this capability.

 

[Talon]

But you should also keep in mind that PAF acquired the PGs in middle of hostilities with India.....not just to fire sidewinders as even the A-5s had this capability.

PG is history boss, it will go before Mirages

 

[Genghis khan1]

Turn them in long-range drones, Using AI to perform risky missions. US has successfully done this with F-16, and if or when the need arises, all those thousands of old Jets Parked in the Arizona desert will be turned into flying drones.

 

[Tornado23]

Which a2a missiles can be fired from the f7pg?

 

[Akh1112]

Which a2a missiles can be fired from the f7pg?

AIM-9L/M.

 

[ghazi52]

F-7PGs from No. 17 AS Sqn 'Tigers'

 

[Tornado23]

AIM-9L/M.

Huh, I would've thought it would use pl5eII or pl9

 

[Akh1112]

Huh, I would've thought it would use pl5eII or pl9

No, F-7PG's have alot of western equip. Even the A-5's carried sidewinders and western gear.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

The only things I'd try adding to the F-7PG is a HMD/S with a HOBS AAM and, if possible, Link-17 and a LRAAM. Combined, these features would give us our own MiG-21bis equivalent. A good DACT asset to train JF-17 and F-16 pilots.

 

[Windjammer]

My understanding was that the PGs were first fighter aircraft in the PAF which had some BVR capability.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

My understanding was that the PGs were first fighter aircraft in the PAF which had some BVR capability.

Link-17 would take it a step further. Basically use the JF-17's radar coverage while keeping its own radar off. A small maneuverable jet with minimized electronic signals is pretty dangerous.

 

[Akh1112]

The only things I'd try adding to the F-7PG is a HMD/S with a HOBS AAM and, if possible, Link-17 and a LRAAM. Combined, these features would give us our own MiG-21bis equivalent. A good DACT asset to train JF-17 and F-16 pilots.

to be fair, for DACT you could do it as is quite effectively,
nevertheless, a actual good use for the PG's could be turning them into COIN assets, equip them with TGPs and PGM's, like the lanceR's, hand over COIN to them, free up JF-17s and F-16s for more neer peer threats

My understanding was that the PGs were first fighter aircraft in the PAF which had some BVR capability.

No, they never did, they have a BVR capable radar, theoretically atleast, however they never employed any radar guided missiles.