F-35 myths and facts

[Ultima Thule]

I never said any plane is a piece of crap the way you describes Su-57. You are the one who is biased. You are the one who is racist. I stated Su-57 is unique because no other plane has 4 faced AESA. This is fact. You are the one who is denying fact unless you admit it or you find another plane that has 4 faced AESA.

4 faced has no unique feature, 4 faced AESA that for it basically to detect to other stealth jets (L band, on the LEADING edge on the SU-57) they are only to detect not to engage other stealth jet because it has poor resolution and Su-57 needs X band nosecone AESA to target other stealth jets & and this L band AESA act an ECM, ECCM, there is nothing pecail on 4 faced AESA on Su-57 @undertakerwwefan

And you are denying the fact not me that Su-57 is the worst stealth design among all 5th gen jets ( electronically) @undertakerwwefan

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

And you are denying the fact not me that Su-57 is the worst stealth design among all 5th gen jets ( electronically)

Why should I care if Su-57 is the worst 5th gen jet or if Su-57 is the best 5th gen jet? I'm not Russian. I'm not American. I'm not Chinese. I'm simply a hobbyist. Makes no difference to me.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Why should I care if Su-57 is the worst 5th gen jet or if Su-57 is the best 5th gen jet? I'm not Russian. I'm not American. I'm not Chinese. I'm simply a hobbyist. Makes no difference to me.

so why you're claiming that only Su-57 have a unique features other 5th gen don't if don't have a technical knowlegde/ know @undertakerwwefan

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

so why you're claiming that only Su-57 have a unique features other 5th gen don't if don't have a technical knowlegde/ know @undertakerwwefan

Because it is fact. Su-57 is the only jet in the world, 5th gen or otherwise, that has AESA on all 4 sides. No other plane has this feature. Unless you know another plane that does.

Even Americas accept Gagarin is the first man in space. Even Russians accept Armstrong is the first man to set foot on the moon.

You can be biased. You can be racist. But one thing you cannot be is deny facts.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Because it is fact. Su-57 is the only jet in the world, 5th gen or otherwise, that has AESA on all 4 sides. No other plane has this feature. Unless you know another plane that does.

Even Americas accept Gagarin is the first man in space. Even Russians accept Armstrong is the first man to set moon on the moon.

You can be biased. You can be racist. But one thing you cannot be is deny facts.

Nothing special about 4 faced AESA on Su-57 and Please define what is unique in 4 face AESA on Su-57 @undertakerwwefan

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Nothing special about 4 faced AESA on Su-57 and Please define what is unique in 4 face AESA on Su-57 @undertakerwwefan

4 faced AESA can be a piece of crap for all I care. Fact is, Su-57 is unique because of this feature. Unique means no other plane has it. You are unique because you have features no one else has. Unless there is a clone of you out there somewhere.

 

[Ultima Thule]

4 faced AESA can be a piece of crap for all I care. Fact is, Su-57 is unique because of this feature. Unique means no other plane has it. You are unique because you have features no one else has. Unless there is a clone of you out there somewhere.

what good logic you have @undertakerwwefan 4 faced AESA thats a unique features on Su-57 @undertakerwwefan problem solving out of the box thinking/ unconventional ways is called a Unique feature like ETOS on J-20/F-35 that unique features, AESAs on Su-57 has no special features but only 4 AESA @undertakerwwefan enjoy:

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

what good logic you have @undertakerwwefan 4 faced AESA thats a unique features on Su-57 @undertakerwwefan problem solving out of the box thinking/ unconventional ways is called a Unique feature like ETOS on J-20/F-35 that unique features, AESAs on Su-57 has no special features but only 4 AESA @undertakerwwefan enjoy:

In order to have unique feature it must be found on 1 plane and no other plane. EOTS is not unique. It is found on J-20 and F-35.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/unique

 

[Ultima Thule]

In order to have unique feature it must be found on 1 plane and no other plane. EOTS is not unique. It is found on J-20 and F-35.

ETOS far better than emitting AESA because it is a passive system (not emitting any electromagnetic radiation at all) hence difficult to Jam/interfere as compare to AESA that most unique features of ETOS that AESA some how suspected to jam/interfere @undertakerwwefan

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

ETOS far better than emitting AESA because it is a passive system (not emitting any electromagnetic radiation at all) hence difficult to Jam/interfere as compare to AESA that most unique features of ETOS that AESA some how suspected to jam/interfere @undertakerwwefan

AESA can better classify and track targets than EOTS can. EOTS is vulnerable to weather conditions that affect infrared radiation. AESA is better suited for all weather conditions.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Agreed. EOTS is better. That's why China copied DSI and EOTS from F-35. However, Su-57's LEVCON is better than J-20's canards copied from the MiG 1.44 technology demonstrator.

LOL but whole different designs @undertakerwwefan
here it is

It uses similar kind of software enabled tech which uses EF-2000 to minimize a CANARD RCS from front and sides @undertakerwwefan

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

LOL but whole different designs @undertakerwwefan
here it is
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It uses similar kind of software enabled tech which uses EF-2000 to minimize a CANARD RCS from front and sides @undertakerwwefan

I already changed my post.

 

[randomradio]

You can't lose to plane which can't see u.

So you're saying the F-35 is better than the F-22 in air superiority. Okay.

You are wrong. These are not prototypes but early lots. They all will be upgraded.

Upgrades are not free.

 

[Kamil_baku]

AMRAAM has 4 Mach + speed and can maneuver at 40 g +. F-22 has 2 Mach speed and 9 g maneuver.

Seems like you forget that BVR missiles work with their radar and if the 5th generation fighter is stealth, how it is going to find the opposite jet 100km away? Who cares what is the speed and maneuver of it if it cannot see anything in front of it...?


Ok, i really expected a better response from you, as seems like you dont know how jets ran away from those BVR missiles..
If any 4th generation fighter fire another 4th generation fighter jet with BVR, the targeted jet basically use S maneuvers, which if the jet turns left, the missiles itself calculating the meeting point, will turn more. But, when the jets use this tactic, the missile burn most of its roket and cannot actually get to the target.
On the other hand, lets say your BVR has 100km range and mine has 90. if we both fire to each other from 90km away, we will fly back, basically, if im speedy enough, your BVR missile have meet me 130km away which will be impossible..
in addition, there are EW and other systems to confuse the BVR missile which use its own radar.. They even use hard object going from wing of jet 30 meters behind the jet to have the same RCS of the jet and be shot down by BVR missiles, in reality, it survives the missiles..

 

[Ultima Thule]

AESA can better classify and track targets than EOTS can. EOTS is vulnerable to weather conditions that affect infrared radiation. AESA is better suited for all weather conditions.

AESA are also effected by jamming/ interference/clutter jamming more then ETOS @undertakerwwefan