Export bids for JF-17 Thunder Multirole Lightweight Fighter Aircraft

[Riz]

Link????

Journalist Sumera Khan

 

[Beast]

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It will never happened. I think those fantasy rumor of Argentina F-16 shall stop posting. Such sales will hurt UK ties with US. And can US guarantee these F-16 used against UK?

What is the point of getting bunch of fighter jet that cant used against Falkland UK?

The deal is also confirmed from Chinese source.

 

[Deino]

The deal is also confirmed from Chinese source.

Really? which one confirmed it?

 

[Beast]

Really? which one confirmed it?

Still considered rumor but the source are quite reliable.

 

[The Eagle]

Journalist Sumera Khan

https://twitter.com/x/status/1487826187644719111

 

[Riz]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1487826187644719111

Yes she was actually referring to this interview in video

 

[Chak Bamu]

Yes she was actually referring to this interview in video

In that case the whole thing circles back to nothing much substantive. This can not be treated as a confirmation at all. Chances are that this deal may happen. But this can not be considered as conclusive at all. We need to tone down a bit & look for confirmation.

 

[uhuru]

Has anyone considered reaching out to Tanzania for JF17s? There is a need to replace all the old jets which have rotted away.

 

[Chak Bamu]

Has anyone considered reaching out to Tanzania for JF17s? There is a need to replace all the old jets which have rotted away.

Certainly. It would be a good opportunity. But I suppose Tanzanian government has to make a decision regarding replacement first.

 

[Beast]

Has anyone considered reaching out to Tanzania for JF17s? There is a need to replace all the old jets which have rotted away.

Nowadays modern fighter jet are very maintenance intensive and long hours of professional training before able to form a credible fighting forces. I dont know Tarzania are ready for JF-17 blk 3 financially or training wise.

 

[uhuru]

Certainly. It would be a good opportunity. But I suppose Tanzanian government has to make a decision regarding replacement first.

Yes, for us, right now fortunately we are fortunate we dont have serious challenge but things are changing rapidly on the southern border of Mozambique.

 

[Chak Bamu]

Yes, for us, right now fortunately we are fortunate we dont have serious challenge but things are changing rapidly on the southern border of Mozambique.

JF-17 is a no regret acquisition. It trains an airforce in the latest weaponry without costing an arm and a leg. Its a perfect fighter for defence & deterrence.

 

[siegecrossbow]

Argentinian Air Force pilots and technicians arrived in China for technical evaluation of the aircraft and are currently in quarantine.

Una comitiva de la Fuerza Aérea Argentina visita China para evaluar al JF-17 Thunder

Luego de varias semanas, e incluso meses, sin mayores novedades sobre la selección del futuro cazabombardero para la Fuerza Aérea Argentina (FAA), han

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A delegation of pilots and technicians traveled to China to evaluate the capabilities of the Sino-Pakistani fighter JF-17 Thunder, one of the main candidates to provide the Argentine Air Force (FAA) with supersonic fighter capability.

Sabino Vaca Narvaja, the Argentine ambassador to China and General Norberto Zarate, the embassy’s military attaché, were present at CATIC.

DangDai media confirmed the visit of the Argentine delegation to the CATIC (China National Aero-Technology Import & Export Corporation) facilities, located in the city of Chengdu. There, the Argentine personnel carried out different technical evaluation stages that included the use of simulators, cockpit practices and evaluation flight tests.

Given the restrictions imposed by China due to the resurgence of COVID-19 cases in the country, the Argentine personnel had to undergo a 28-day quarantine. However, CATIC personnel had made available to the Argentine delegation diverse technical documentation and even a flight simulator, for that lockdown time not to be wasted and to become familiar with the JF-17 Thunder model.

This evaluation is essential to acquire a thorough knowledge of the fighter aircraft under study, to be able to make an informed decision on whether to incorporate one or another weapon system.

Of the five supersonic-capable candidates originally vetted by the Argentine Air Force (the Israeli Kfir, the American F-16, the Russian MiG-35, the Indian Tejas and the Sino/Pakistani JF-17), only the JF-17 and the second-hand F-16 remain in the final stretch.


The Argentine delegation should travel to Denmark soon to evaluate the technical characteristics of a dozen F-16A/B MLU that were offered, as the Royal Danish Air Force (RDAF) is replacing them with F-35 Lightning IIs.

Ill-concealed favoritism​

Paradoxically, even before carrying out this in-depth evaluation, the Argentine government had already been giving clues about its preference for the Chinese option.

The clearest and most forceful of these was evidenced on September 15, 2021, when the Argentine budget proposal bill for fiscal year 2022 included a provision of US$ 664 million for the acquisition of fighter jets, specifically the JF-17 Thunder Block III.

The news was first published on this site, as a world first, and caused a great stir in Argentina, China, and Pakistan. Finally, the Argentine Government was forced to issue a communiqué on September 21, in which it clarified that no final decision had been reached on the new fighter aircraft model to be incorporated, and that five candidates were still being evaluated.

The unavoidable political component of a technical selection​

Although there is still no official position on the fighter aircraft model to be chosen, and both Israel and India have renewed their offers for the IAI Kfir NG and HAL Tejas Mk1A, respectively, the fact that the options are precisely those of China and the U.S. seems to indicate that what Argentina is really trying to decide is its geostrategic alignment.

Both the ex-Danish F-16 and the new JF-17 Block III represent quite different proposals, from the technical point of view, each one with its virtues and defects.


F-16 MLU of the Royal Danish Air Force.

But the acquisition of a weapon system as complex as combat aircraft also implies the establishment (or continuity) of a long-term commercial, technical and political relationship between the supplier and the recipient country. And this is the most difficult variable for the Argentine government to evaluate, particularly in the current situation of a clear confrontation between the two major powers in the world: the United States and China.

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Argentina, in choosing its next fighter jet, could be deciding on its future alignment in international politics for the next 10 to 20 years, and the dangerous currents separating the two global superpowers are not easy to navigate.

Argentine Air Force delegation evaluated the JF-17 Thunder in China

A delegation of pilots and technicians traveled to China to evaluate the capabilities of the Sino-Pakistani fighter JF-17 Thunder, one of the main candidates to

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[johncliu88]

I think Argentina tried to use the "used F-16" thing to force the price for the JF-17 to go down. Howe will US allow them to use F-16 to counter UK AF? This is unreal.