Exiled Afghan warlords form resistance council to fight Taliban

[TheSolution]

Turkic culture is closer to Pakistani culture. Not sure why your loosing your mind. The Taliban culture is Najdi tribal one.

No, straight up delusional BS

 

[SD 10]

Talking about the future. The Taliban will not always rule by the gun and their Saudi petrodollar promoted culture will be eradicated.

buddy Taliban or no TAliban, afg will always be influenced by Pakistan and not by anyone else!

 

[Hamza913]

Is that what your backside looks like? Thanks for sharing. Now go f off. If you can't reply in a decent manner then don't reply to my posts.

Don't act like an embarrassment if you don't want to be treated like one

 

[TheSolution]

buddy Taliban or no TAliban, afg will always be influenced by Pakistan and not by anyone else!

Afghanistan is the rebellious little brother of Pakistan who has anger issues

 

[Hamza913]

buddy Taliban or no TAliban, afg will always be influenced by Pakistan and not by anyone else!

If it was up to him, he'd sell even Pakistan to the water melon merchant

 

[SD 10]

Afghanistan is the rebellious little brother of Pakistan who has anger issues

yups pretty much. Plus they are dependent on us , not just the afg govt, afg people are not as much dependent on Afghanistan as they re on Pakistan!

 

[Steppe Wolff]

Actually many cultural practices like watta satta, superstitions and folklore is shared by Pakistanis and Turks.

Urbanisation accelerated in Turkey masks those aspects which tend to get highlighted in Pakistan.

Different groups Turkic People have many similarities but a lot of differences too. But the Turkic identity is what makes us relate to each other.

 

[Shakuni Mama]

Ya labaik ya labaik.kandhar belongs to me and that 8s the reason why I was known as gandhar Naresh Ma'am of kauravs.it belongs to me bhanje it belongs to me.

 

[khansaheeb]

Exiled Afghan warlords form resistance council to fight Taliban​

AFP Published May 20, 2022 - Updated about an hour ago




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Female presenters, with uncovered faces, have become common on Afghan screen in recent years.—AFP/File
KABUL/GENEVA: Former Afghan warlords and exiled politicians announced the creation of a High Council of National Resistance against the Taliban on Thursday, calling on the Islamists to form a more inclusive government or risk civil war.
Since the Taliban surged back to power on the heels of a hasty withdrawal of US troops last year, there have been only limited and sporadic attempts to resist their rule.
But on Tuesday 40 political figures met in Ankara by invitation of former Afghan vice-president and warlord Abdul Rashid Dostum, who found refuge in Turkey after Kabul fell in August.
Participants said their council should pave the way for the “liberation” of Afghanistan, the group said in a statement on Thursday.
“We demand the Taliban end their destruction and set the table for talks to find solutions to the current problems of Afghanistan,” they said.
The Islamists “should learn from the experiences of history that no group can have a stable government through acts of force and pressure”, the council added.
Founding members of the council include former Balkh province governor Atta Mohammad Noor, leader of the Hazara community Mohammad Mohaqiq, and Ahmad Wali Massoud of the National Resistance Front (NRF), the main group currently waging an armed insurgency against the government. Long-time Taliban opponent and warlord Abdul Rab Rasul Sayyaf is also a signatory.
The council’s aim is “to try to solve the problems of Afghanistan through talks”, a spokesman for Dostum said. “The Taliban should accept that they can’t run the government or rule alone”, otherwise “Afghanistan will experience civil war once again”, he said.
At the beginning of the week, the Taliban announced the creation of a commission that would contact politicians in exile.
Taliban officials have said they hope to convene an assembly of citizens, tribal leaders and religious heads to discuss the topic of “national unity”.
However, after making promises for an inclusive government, the Islamists in September formed an executive comprised exclusively of Taliban members, and almost entirely from the ethnic Pashtun group.
The new rulers in Kabul are already facing attacks from the NRF led by Ahmad Massoud — son of late commander Ahmad Shah Massoud — who has stepped up assaults in his former Panjshir valley stronghold.
In its statement, the council said it considers armed resistance to the Taliban “legitimate”.
UN slams closure of rights body
The United Nations on Thursday slammed the Taliban’s closure of the Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission (AIHRC), calling it a “deeply retrograde step”.
Since the Taliban seized power last August the hardline Islamists have closed several bodies that protected the freedoms of Afghans, including the electoral commission and the ministry for women’s affairs.
UN human rights chief Michelle Bachelet said she was “dismayed” at the dissolution.
“The AIHRC performed extraordinary work in extremely difficult conditions over many years, shining a spotlight on the human rights of all Afghans, including victims on all sides of the conflict,” she said in a statement.
“It has however, been unable to operate on the ground since August.
“The AIHRC has been a powerful voice for human rights and a trusted partner of UN Human Rights, and its loss will be a deeply retrograde step for all Afghans and Afghan civil society.”
The work of the commission, which included documenting civilian casualties of Afghanistan’s two-decade war, was halted when the Taliban ousted a US-backed government last year and the body’s top officials fled the country.
Bachelet said that during her visit to Kabul in March, she discussed with the de facto authorities the importance of re-establishing an independent human rights mechanism that can receive public complaints and bring concerns to the authorities.
Published in Dawn, May 20th, 2022

Seems like the Afghan opposition are in cold Turkey; belly dancing tonight?

 

[TNT]

Talking about the future. The Taliban will not always rule by the gun and their Saudi petrodollar promoted culture will be eradicated.

Turkic culture is closer to Pakistani culture. Not sure why your loosing your mind. The Taliban culture is Najdi tribal one.

It seems you are not aware of ground realities bro. Tajiks are not that close to turks, they consider themselves different but do accept Turkish roots. Tajikistan is also an ally of india and Russia and would not go beyond a certain level with Turkey.
You are also wrong about saudi influence on taliban, u obviously have a biasness against them but reality is that taliban are deobandi and consider wahabis as gumraah. Saudis helped by orders of US against USSR and that is it, later on taliban stopped them funding wahabi madrassas and kicked out arabs. Its been decades that relations between taliban and saudi are not good. Its also evident from the fact that taliban had office in Qatar, which was embargoed by saudi n others.
The Turk influence is in Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan, but they are also influenced by Russia. Afghans generally dont like turks and if u read history ull see pashtuns fought turks many times. So kindly educate urself before passing comments.
Turkey tried to gain some influence in Afghanistan but how is that possible when Turkey is part of NATO, part of those invaders. Pashtuns saw Turkey as ally of invaders and hence didn't give them any respect or response.
Still i think Turkey can have respect and influence through Pakistan and qatar and taliban are likely to see them as friendly but arranging such gatherings will make that difficult.

 

[Thinker3]

It is wrong of Turkey to promote and prefer race based Nationalism, as a Muslim our Nationalism should be based on Islam, as in Islam every race is equal and Muslims are brothers of eachother. If anyone is promoting a race based Nationalism then they are going against the teachings of Islam.
Arabs before Turkey made this mistake and started Arab Nationalism which resulted is breakdown of Ottoman empire and subsequently power of Muslims, now they are helpless and being destroyed on will be the enemies.

 

[PakAlp]

come on man...we do share a respect for usmania khialafat but apart from that what common culture do we have?

So what culture is Pakistan close to? Western? Indian? Chinese? Saudi Najdi?

Allama Iqbal Ra dreamt of Pakistan because he said we Muslims have different culture than Indian Hindus, we are not one nation. Our culture, way of life is different, identity is different. We are more closer to our neighbouring Muslim states, this is where our future lies and their future lies with us.

This is not about Dostum, he may aswell be a terrorist like the TTP or the BachaBaaz.

 

[Thinker3]

So what culture is Pakistan close to? Western? Indian? Chinese? Saudi Najdi?

Allama Iqbal Ra dreamt of Pakistan because he said we Muslims have different culture than Indian Hindus, we are not one nation. Our culture, way of life is different, identity is different. We are more closer to our neighbouring Muslim states, this is where our future lies and their future lies with us.

This is not about Dostum, he may aswell be a terrorist like the TTP or the BachaBaaz.

Our way of life and culture should be based on Islam as Islam is a complete way of living and a whole system.
Islam is what differentiated us from the other dwellers of subcontinent and gave us our own identity.

 

[PakAlp]

buddy Taliban or no TAliban, afg will always be influenced by Pakistan and not by anyone else!

That's fine then, why not influence Afghanistan to stop cross border terrorism, start anti TTP operations, recognise the international border. We been waiting for decades for results.

Pakistan should engage with other ethnicities and make power sharing agreement for peaceful Afghanistan. This way Afghanistan will be peaceful and we have ally Turk nations. Unless online Pakistanis have become anti Turkish now.

 

[Thinker3]

That's fine then, why not influence Afghanistan to stop cross border terrorism, start anti TTP operations, recognise the international border. We been waiting for decades for results.

Pakistan should engage with other ethnicities and make power sharing agreement for peaceful Afghanistan. This way Afghanistan will be peaceful and we have ally Turk nations. Unless online Pakistanis have become anti Turkish now.

Pakistanis are not anti Turkish being Turkish or another ethnicity or race does not matter as those Pakistani who love Turkey is because of them being Muslims and a Muslim nation, before Erdogan when Turkey was not Islamic and European no Pakistani or as a mater of fact Muslim of any other Muslim nation had love for modern Turkey. Love is based on Islam. So now if Turkey instead of Islamic brotherhood and Nationalism start promoting racial and ethnic based Nationalism they will lose all that love and support and will be left empty handed just like Arabs.