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EXCLUSIVE: US assessing reported leak at Chinese nuclear power facility

a report by CNN on Monday that Framatome, one of the companies, had sought help from the United States

Reality: Fromatome contacted the US due to dumb US sanctions forcing them to contact the US just to go on the site and make the declared full "assesment" of the situation.
CNN: (opinion) Its unusual Fromatome would reach out for help from US. (opinion) Its not surprising to seek help from US. (opinion) The US could give Fromatome permission to help.
NYT followup: Fromatome had sought help from the United States . Framatome had contacted the U.S. government about getting help with operations at the power plan

By next week thes US propaganda mouthpieces will claim China sought help from the USA to repair this plant 🙄

Angry PDF trolls: THATS NOT LYING THATS JUST MORE CREATIVE WRITING :blah:

LOL! A Chinese member doesn't read the story.

1) The French alerted the US that China keeps increasing the "safety margin" of radiation detection so they don't have to declare an incident. That's it.

2) Chinese PDF members immediately rant and rave about the US "spreading lies".

:omghaha:
1) US propaganda spreads their usual lies about French and Chinese doing something
2) US propaganda outlets keep laundering the US propaganda lies with false attributions, false paraphrasing to turn disingenious quotemining, irrelevant speculation and 4th party hearsay from dubious sources into "facts" about shit that never happend "according to sources" that never even claimed half of it
3) Paid shills keep uncritically perpetuating the bullshit
4) US gets called out on talking bullshit
5) New 1st party reports contradict the US propaganda lies
6) American PDF member deploy dark blue textbook strategy #12 feign ignorance and double down on the bullshit and strategy #8 keep beating the dead horse

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Reality: Fromatome contacted the US due to dumb US sanctions forcing them to contact the US just to go on the site and make the declared full "assesment" of the situation.

LOL! Oh really? Which magical US sanction is this?
This sounds more like another of your notorious BS "facts" you do all the time in your reply snippets in various threads .:coffee:
 
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LOL! Oh really? Which magical US sanction is this?
This sounds more like your typical BS "facts" you do all the time in your replies .:coffee:
Projecting your faults and playing dumb about the simplest facts just to drag on with "your" (well you are just obediently parrotting BS now so credit where credit is due) BS? At least that has a resemblance of consistency throughout your replies.

So are you saying you didnt actually properly read the article you posted yourself? They literally concede the fact of US sanctions, in the middle of doubling down on the spin from CNNs already BS "Fromatome could/would help" speculations to New York Times "Fromatome asked US to help out", you were so eager about you had to highlight a verifiable false statement.

According to CNN, Framatome had contacted the U.S. government about getting help with operations at the power plant. CGN, the Chinese nuclear company, is on the U.S. Commerce Department’s so-called Entity List of foreign enterprises with which American companies are forbidden to do business.
US sanctions, however you spin it, before you play dumb about the wording too.
Fromatome has operations in the USA. Listed on their homepage before you play dumb about that too.
That means everything they own, but has some US based fingerprints in them wether its just using a US screwdriver or document or software analysis of failures of US plants compiled by their local research team regardless of the fact that none of them may be US citizens, needs to be waivered by the USA or Fromatome gets in trouble. Thats what your BS bingo brigade was jerking off to for the past 4 year so dont pretend you forgot how it works. Im not even explaining that for you. Everyone knows your feigned ignorance is just part of your disingenious and dishonest BS routine you pull off every day and you just keep beating the dead horse here because you want you dumb propagada to stay up on the page regardless how many holes people keep shooting trough the BS you constantly spam.

NYT just doesnt spell it out for idiots and as its typical for the kind of BS propaganda you constantly post puts the little truth in their vast amount of BS at the very end of a 1000 word essay framed in misleading suggestions, which we can clearly see from your example nobody actually reads, all to drown a simple fact that makes anyone with half a brain beg the question what the **** CNN and NYT experts and authors are talking about the whole time.


Let me sum this up again.

You
LOL! Oh really? Which magical US sanction is this?
This sounds more like your typical BS "facts" you do all the time in your replies .:coffee:
Also you, just 2 post earlier uncritically copy pasting walls of text of US propaganda:
CGN, the Chinese nuclear company, is on the U.S. Commerce Department’s so-called Entity List of foreign enterprises with which American companies are forbidden to do business.
Also you, just 2 post earlier uncritically copy pasting walls of text of US propaganda:
Framatome asked the United States to waive its limits on nuclear assistance to China
 
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US sanctions, however you spin it, before you play dumb about the wording too.
Fromatome has operations in the USA. Listed on their homepage before you play dumb about that too.

LOL! Again you can't back up your claim on which sanction this supposedly is.

Lots of words from you but no specific facts...

WHERE DO YOU SEE SANCTIONS MENTIONED.

I only see them telling the US the Chinese keep raising the safety bar and what is the US's opinion on the safety of doing that and possible technical know-how/opinion of how to mitigate the situation from getting worse.
 
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LOL! Again you can't back up your claim on which sanction this supposedly is.

Lots of words from you but no specific facts...

The facts about the relevant sanctions, we both know about very well, but only you play dumb about. To be found at the very end your owm "Lot's of words" article:
CGN, the Chinese nuclear company, is on the U.S. Commerce Department’s so-called Entity List of foreign enterprises with which American companies are forbidden to do business.
Framatome asked the United States to waive its limits on nuclear assistance to China

You getting triggered by me focusing on the simple facts again and filtering out your BS
LOL! Oh really? Which magical US sanction is this?
This sounds more like your typical BS "facts" you do all the time in your replies .:coffee:


no specific facts..
Says the guy who uncritically parrots US propaganda claiming an undisclosed "memo" that may not even exist as such, they claim to have acquired from undisclosed sources, that is claiming the the US officials claimed that a French company claimed something about China and asserts that as one of his typical "facts":
1) The French alerted the US that China ...

This is just getting sad and pathetic. Even for just trying to beat onto this dead horse after the entire story is long dead since the fault was revealed yesterday.
 
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The facts about the relevant sanctions, we both know about very well, but only you play dumb about. To be found at the very end your owm "Lot's of words" article:

LOL! Your reading comprehension is zero.

"the U.S. Commerce Department’s so-called Entity List of foreign enterprises with which American companies are forbidden to do business."

This has nothing to do with France. They have zero restrictions/obligations/sanctions.

"Framatome asked the United States to waive its limits on nuclear assistance to China on the basis that it met a legal test of an “immediate radiological threat,”

Framatome needed permission from the US government for it to talk to US companies about strategies to mitigate the situation in China. It doesn't say anything about your dumb assertion of obligations/sanctions that supposedly France had.

You are unbelievable in how you twist things...

If anything this shows Framatome is so concerned about the situation in China they had to call up US nuclear power experts for advice...who then said they couldn't answer until Framatome got an emergency waiver from the US Government.
 
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LOL! Your reading comprehension is zero.

"the U.S. Commerce Department’s so-called Entity List of foreign enterprises with which American companies are forbidden to do business."

This has nothing to do with France.
Are you for real? 😂
TSMC is not affected by the US Entity List because its not an American company?
Samsung is not affected by the US Entity List because its not an American company?
LG is not affected by the US Entity List because its not an American company?
All the waivers they asked the USA for where never needed?
Someone gotta call them, they are loosing billions when this smart little guy figured it all out.

I already reminded you in this thread, to let you catch up a little bit with that reading comprehension of yours: https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/excl...e-nuclear-power-facility.714025/post-13193167

Your lot has been spamming selfglorifying propaganda for years now, gloating how these US sanctions would have killed Huawei, SMIC and other Chinese companies, after blocking and interrupting TSMC, Samsung and LG and other international companies from supplying and providing relevant services. With a good portion of the threads and commentary from none less than yourself. But suddenly "the U.S. Commerce Department’s so-called Entity List of foreign enterprises" has nothing to do with foreign companies, at all?

Do we even need to go on, after your completly disqualifying claims here? The dumb CNN story already evaporated into hot air anways since the concrete issue was declared.

Framatome needed permission from the US government for it to talk to US companies about strategies to mitigate the situation in China.
Again, thats not from Framatome or what Framatome said, thats you parroting CNN talking out of their butt and congratulating themself after NYT laundered CNN claims and assumptions into your typical "facts".

If you want to argue in cycles return to: https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/excl...ar-power-facility.714025/page-3#post-13192660 The points all still stand.

It doesn't say anything about your dumb misinterpretation of obligations/sanctions.
Already back to your dumb routine to ramble lazy oneliners, purposefully ignoring and contradicting the facts people have already spoonfed to you, hoping they get bored of repeating themself just to drag on drowning the truth in your BS? As pointed out three times before, your own dumb propaganda conceded the "magical" fact I have been referring to right before that line
CGN, the Chinese nuclear company, is on the U.S. Commerce Department’s so-called Entity List of foreign enterprises with which American companies are forbidden to do business.
for which they all seek waivers or diversify away from jada jada you already know all of that. Flip flopping back to the dumb CNN claim about undisclosed claims of claims about claims of things, nobody even cared to confirm, doesnt make the prevailing US sanctions go away, even if its hidden under a 1000 word NYT essay full of BS,

It doesnt matter that they concede it (unlike CNN who completely sidelined this fact to justify its dumb interpretations). Its just the icing on the cake that you posted it yourself but apparently never read all the US propaganda garbage (as intended) you are dumping here.

If you want to argue in cycles return to: https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/excl...ar-power-facility.714025/page-3#post-13193167

May I dig deeper into that open wound or do you intend to give up on your farce? We already know the answer. These statements about the US sanction affecting EDF operations in China are plastered over every public EDF financial guide and outlook for the past 3 years.
The implementation of these projects may give rise to numerous technical, industrial, operational, economic, regulatory, environmental or acceptability risks that could jeopardize project schedules, associated costs or profitability. There may also be difficulties in terms of relationships with the partners involved with EDF in these projects. Trade tensions between the United States and China could have an impact on the conduct of some of these projects given the technologies and partnerships implemented.

In this regard, in October 2018, the US Department of Energy (“US DoE”) issued a decision on civil nuclear cooperation with China which deals in particular with the transfer of US goods and technology, or goods and technology of US origin, to CGN, its subsidiaries and related entities. This decision concerns technologies relating to equipment within or directly attached to the vessel, core power control equipment and equipment that contains or is in direct contact with the primary fluid. On 14 August 2019, the United States Department of Commerce (“US DoC”) issued a ruling placing four CGN Group entities on the list of entities subject to restrictions (“Entity List”) concerning any transfer of goods and technology, in particular US dual-use goods and technology, or dual-use goods and technology of US origin (or including a certain percentage of US content) subject to the jurisdiction of the US DoC (export administration regulations: covering all goods and technology, in particular dual-use commercial goods and technology, other than those subject to the jurisdiction of the US DoE and the Nuclear Regulatory Agency). As a result of these decisions, the transfer of goods and technology to the entities in question for the technical scope covering them under the decisions, must be specifically authorised in advance by the competent US courts, with the presumption that such authorisation will be refused.

In addition, these projects require administrative authorisations, licenses or permits which may be subject to disputes, withdrawals or delays in obtaining them.

Such situations could, in particular in the event of non-compliance with the Group’s contractual commitments or the Group’s potential exposure in the event of major contingencies arising from the completion of these projects or the operation of these reactors, have a major impact on the Group’s business, results, asset value, financial position, reputation and outlook.
But what does EDF know right? They just own the company building those plant. They must have been reading something wrong, their operations are not even affected because they are not an American company. Its not like using just one propetiary screwdriver or one propetiary library in one of their devices or software, makes them subject to seeking waivers from these sanctions, just like everyone else we have been talking about for the past years. But wait I already talked about that too: https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/excl...e-nuclear-power-facility.714025/post-13193167
 
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Your news is out of date, according to informed sources, the nuclear power plant in China has been detonated, 300 million people have died, China built the Great Wall to prevent other countries to detect nuclear radiation.
 
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Are you for real? 😂
TSMC is not affected by the US Entity List because its not an American company?
Samsung is not affected by the US Entity List because its not an American company?
LG is not affected by the US Entity List because its not an American company?

Oh hold on...are you now insinuating the Chinese Nuclear power station that was built with the help of Fromatome is actually dependent on US technology (just like the issues with TSMC, Samsung, and LG that you are using as examples)...and that is where your repeated talk of sanctions comes into the picture...

I should have known...why do I make assumptions that China has done things on their own...geez...always needing the technological hand of the West to move forward...
 
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The entire story wrapped around it is just what the U.S. regime propaganda mouthpiece claims to "have seen" someone "claim" one a completely unrelated note from some anonymous source and speculation by some random pulled up nobody that has no relation to the project and clue whats going on, of course without any attempt at verifying the claims, because of course that could/would lead to the responsible parties to simply call it false.


Chinese nuclear giant China General Nuclear Power Corporation (CGN) said on Friday that it is shutting down the Taishan No.1 reactor, the world's first EPR third-generation technology reactor, to examine fuel rod damages and undertake maintenance.

The company has been under pressure from its French partner, which went to the media stating they would have shut down the reactor if it were in France.
 
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Chinese nuclear giant China General Nuclear Power Corporation (CGN) said on Friday that it is shutting down the Taishan No.1 reactor, the world's first EPR third-generation technology reactor, to examine fuel rod damages and undertake maintenance.

The company has been under pressure from its French partner, which went to the media stating they would have shut down the reactor if it were in France.

"Currently, there is some minor fuel damage at the No.1 reactor, but it was still within the tolerance of technical parameters and the reactor can continue to operate smoothly," the TNPJVC [Taishan Nuclear Power Joint Venture Co] said

"Out of the concerns that the No.1 reactor is the world's first ever [EPR] nuclear reactor, only came online recently, the power plant decided, upon thorough communication between Chinese and French technical staff, to shut down the reactor on the principle of safety first," read the statement.

The reactor is being temporarily shut down and technical experts will begin to look for the reason causing the fuel rod damages and replace the damaged rods.

Wow, month later the expected maintenance because of the earlier by Chinese media reported neglieble issue with the fuel rods is coupled with a deeper inspection on the cause of the cracks and the French partner whos not as much concerned with the financial prospect or the project got through on it demands to play it safer. Thats means ... its still exactly as reported by Chinese media? And as everyone could see including American trolls a rather minor issue (that we by now know happend multiple times to American reactors, as experienced by the same French company without a hitch, just without 99% of the media propganda fanfare they made about the Chinese-French reactor) and not like that intelligence insulting Fukushima disaster plus coverup narrative and spin American trolls and American propaganda mouthpieces where churning out to milk the incident before the disalarming reports what actually happend were made. Just as China never seemed to have actually begged for "superior" American help to safe "inferior" and "impotent" China from a nuclear disaster, as American propaganda mouthpieces where disingeniously suggesting or flat out lying about for a whole week spinning overreaching US regulator control over European business operating on presumption of violations out of context, until everyone went radio silent about it when it turned out to be all just the usual American propaganda BS that paid shills and trolls love to parrot without believing (or even themself reading) one bit of the BS they keep flinging towards China.

Are you guys done with dumping Japans nuclear waste into the ocean or what news are you even trying to play over? Are you trying to act like its surprising that China is repairing the reported fuel rod damage and uses the opportunity to investigate the origin during the maintenance? Or are you just still sour from being called out on all your BS "facts" and people actually reading your "sources" from before and try get back with another of the cringe smug act running only on hot air, hoping people lost track over the burning bridges you where trying to sell us just a month ago? 😂
 
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