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A Sunni alliance led by Saudi Arabia asking help from enemies of Muslims to arm them to fight Shias.

This is how the situation is. Israel and America will readily and willingly help. Saudi Arabia and its rich Arab friends are creating a sectarian alliance to attack and limit Iran influence. Israel too wants the same thing. Never did I think that we Muslim will go so low to slit our fellow Muslim throat in league with the known enemies of Islam.

I wish it not, but what Saudi and its rich Arab friends have done to Syria, may they also be inflicted with the fraction of pain Syrians have suffered.

What Saudis and other rich Arabs are doing to the Muslim world, the day is not far when they will also suffer. Then no one will come to their rescue.
 
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A Sunni alliance led by Saudi Arabia asking help from enemies of Muslims to arm them to fight Shias.

This is how the situation is. Israel and America will readily and willingly help. Saudi Arabia and its rich Arab friends are creating a sectarian alliance to attack and limit Iran influence. Israel too wants the same thing. Never did I think that we Muslim will go so low to slit our fellow Muslim throat in league with the known enemies of Islam.

I wish it not, but what Saudi and its rich Arab friends have done to Syria, may they also be inflicted with the fraction of pain Syrians have suffered.

What Saudis and other rich Arabs are doing to the Muslim world, the day is not far when they will also suffer. Then no one will come to their rescue.

Read some histrory facts about alliance in ME since those 1400 years... and you will suprised to see the way around... :) Shias back in the days forged alliances with the West...against Damascus rule( Sunni) and even at a time against jerusalem rule... yeah... that crusade thingy... :)

History is reapeating again and agian till the End come... Enjoy it till you can...
 
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sure, but Saudis already have an air force that is leaps and bounds ahead of its neighbors, with 200 F-35s, they will have a better air force than Russia, and only USAF and other branches can rival the combined power of the whole GCC
That is the point, you never know who you are going to confront in the future!
KSA has less than 350 fighters, it is ahead technologically but not with a big margin.. Usrael is still ahead of it in both technology and numbers.. KSA needs numbers and high-tech fighters..
And for sure anyone can imagine how long it will take to deliver a 100 to 200 F-35, we are talking about more than 10 years..
 
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Here’s a list of the companies and weapons involved in the $110 billion deal:

Lockheed Martin (The firm says its share of the potential total is $28 billion.)

  • THAAD missile defense system
  • Four Multi-Mission Surface Combatant Ships
  • 150 S-70 Black Hawk helicopters
  • Radars systems, tactical aircraft and surveillance systems
Boeing

  • Chinook helicopters
  • Guided weapons
  • P-8 surveillance planes
  • Sustainment work
  • Saudi Rotorcraft Support Company
  • Maybe: 16 widebody commercial jetliners
Raytheon

  • Air defense systems
  • Smart munitions
  • C4I systems
  • Cybersecurity for defense systems
General Dynamics

  • Abrams tanks
Unidentified Weapons
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  • Light close-air-support aircraft
  • Transport aircraft
  • Armored personnel carriers
  • Patrol boats

http://cdn.defenseone.com/b/defense...al&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
 
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A not confirmed list of the possible weapon systems bought by KSA in the $110 billion deal:

- M1A2 Abrams to replace their last M60s. In lieu of Germany blocking the Leopard 2A7 from the Saudis.

- ~40 M777 Howitzers

- THAADs & Many more Patriot Batteries

- Boeing 737 AEW&Cs

- ~12 P-8 Poseidons

- KC-46 Pegasus

- More Apaches

- ~30 Chinooks

- ~10 AH-6 Littlebirds

- ~MH-60s

- ~20 C-130Js

- ~50 HIMARS

- ~200 F-35

- ~10 Boeing 747's and 777's upgraded by Boeing for VIP/security travel

- Hundreds of Sidewinders, Hellfire, JDAMs

- 4
Littoral Combat Ships modified LCS, with option to buy 4 more

- 10 SeaHawk

- (Maybe ) 2 Destroyers

- ~4 Diesel-Electric subs constructed by Lockheed Martin based on "Type-216" sub

Numbers can change
200 f-35 Are tired or drunk ?
 
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200 f-35 Are tired or drunk ?
Not confirmed, but my guess is on medium to long term it might be possible (I would rather say 100 F-35 or up to 200), I back my supposition by the fact that many US officials said that the F-35 was not for sale in the Middle east in the short term and they all have insisted on "short term"..that is 5 years which has passed since their statements was published..
 
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Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD)

The Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) element provides the Ballistic Missile Defense System (BMDS) with a globally-transportable, rapidly-deployable capability to intercept and destroy ballistic missiles inside or outside the atmosphere during their final, or terminal, phase of flight.

Overview
  • Land-based element capable of shooting down a ballistic missile both inside and just outside the atmosphere.
  • Highly effective against the asymmetric ballistic missile threats.
  • Uses hit-to-kill technology whereby kinetic energy destroys the incoming warhead.
  • The high-altitude intercept mitigates effects of enemy weapons of mass destruction before they reach the ground.
Details
  • THAAD battery consists of four main components:
    Launcher: Truck-mounted, highly-mobile, able to be stored; interceptors can be fired and rapidly reloaded.
    Interceptors: Eight per launcher.
    Radar: Army Navy/Transportable Radar Surveillance (AN/TPY-2) - Largest air-transportable x-band radar in the world searches, tracks, and discriminates objects and provides updated tracking data to the interceptor.
    Fire Control: Communication and data-management backbone; links THAAD components together; links THAAD to external command and control nodes and to the entire BMDS; plans and executes intercept solutions.
  • Rapidly-deployable by being globally transportable via air, land and sea.
Development
  • State-of-the-art engineering ensures high standards and efficient production and maintenance.
  • Comprehensive program of ground and flight tests, quality assurance, and design and development activities support mission success.
  • Major events in the THAAD Program:
    • Returned to flight test on Nov. 22, 2005 at White Sands Missile Range, New Mexico.
    • Completed 13 successful tests, including 11 intercepts, and operationally-realistic tests in March 2009, June 2010, October 2011, October 2012 and September 2013.
    • Continuing element development to incrementally improve missile defense capability.
Procurement
  • First two batteries fielded at Fort Bliss, Texas. Total hardware for Batteries #1 & #2 includes six Launchers, two fire control & communications components, two AN/TPY-2 radars, and 48 interceptors. Delivered 50th operational interceptor in 2012.
  • Battery #3-#5 completed delivery in 2013, 2014 and 2015, respectively.
  • Battery #6 on contract and delivers in 2016.
  • Battery #7 on contract in 2014.
Fielding
  • Activated six THAAD batteries in 2008, 2009, 2012, 2014, 2015 and 2016.
  • Received conditional materiel release of two batteries and transition of operations to the Army in February 2012 and urgent materiel release of another two batteries in December 2014.
  • New Equipment Training (NET) for Battery #5 began in 2016. NET scheduled to begin for Battery #6 in late 2016.
https://www.mda.mil/system/thaad.html


AN/TPY-2 Radar


The THAAD Ground-Based Radar (GBR), now known as the AN/TPY-2, is an X-Band, phased array, solid-state, long-range air defense radar. It was developed and built by Raytheon at its Andover, MA Integrated Air Defense Facility, as the main radar for the US Army’s THAAD late midcourse ballistic missile defense system.

For THAAD, targeting information from the TPY-2 is uploaded to the missile immediately before launch, and continuously updated in flight via datalinks. The TPY-2 is always deployed with THAAD, but it can also be used independently as part of any ABM (anti ballistic missile) infrastructure. That flexibility, and ease of deployment, is carving out an expanding role for the TPY-2/ “FBX” that reaches beyond THAAD. If a recent NRC report is adopted, that role will expand again to include national-scale ballistic missile defense. Hence this separate article to cover its ongoing development.


The TPY-2/ FBX System

AN/TPY-2 system
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The radar uses a trailer-mounted, single-faced 9.2 square meter wideband phased-array antenna. In the antenna there are 72 transceiver modules in semiconductor technology, which supply a total of 25,344 antenna elements. In “forward-based” or volume search mode, the TPY-2’s high power output and beam/waveform agility lets it perform air surveillance to very high altitudes at ranges of up to 1,000 km (600 miles). In “terminal” (targeting) mode, it performs aerial target identification and tracking.

Those targets can include incoming ballistic missiles. While they’re adapted for end to end use against short range ballistic missiles, TPY-2 radars can be used against longer-range missiles as well. Their X-band frequency and narrow beam widths add the additional advantage of being able to tell the difference between smaller objects, such as a warhead vs. space debris (“range resolution”). The penalty is that they’re not as good as the huge SSPARS/UEWR radars at searching wide volumes of space, and of course they have a much shorter range. At present, their best use against long-range attacks is to observe the early stage of missile launches from a forward base, and relay that information to the national command to cue larger radars.

The entire AN/TPY-2 radar system includes:

  • The phased-array Antenna Equipment Unit (AEU)
  • A Cooling Equipment Unit (CEU) for use with the antenna array
  • The Electronic Equipment Unit (EEU)
  • A 1.3 MW Prime Power Unit (PPU)
  • An Operator Control Unit (OCU) which lets soldiers see the radar’s results, monitor the system, and communicate. It has its own built-in power unit.
The FBX (Forward Based X-band) is a stand-alone AN/TPY-2 radar, with some additional communications for independent meshing with other missile defense elements. Normally, the THAAD system would handle that, but FBX deploys on its own, without the THAAD missile system.

Future proposals for FBX could field a much more powerful version.

The USA’s National Research Council submitted a 2012 report that recommended an improved FBX, as part of an enhanced GMD-E mid-course defense system for the continental USA. On the ground, 5 “GBX” twin-stacked and integrated, rotatable TPY-2 radars would be added, with X-band uplink and downlink modes. Four would be co-located with current SPSS ballistic missile early warning sites at Clear AFS, AK; Cape Cod, MA; Thule, Greenland; and Fylingdales, United Kingdom. The 5th would be placed at Grand Forks, ND, which currently houses the 10th Space Warning Squadron.

See “Ballistic Missile Defense: Why the Current GMD System’s Radars Can’t Discriminate
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” for an in-depth technical explanation of why even the huge UEWR radars aren’t suitable for discriminating between warheads and the decoys used by more advanced missiles, and why TPY-2’s X-band wavelength is a much better fit. Each GBX would have a 20 degree x 90 degree field of view, rotatable through an azimuth sector of 270 degrees, while providing electronic scan coverage from the horizon to the zenith over a traverse angle sector of 45 degrees from broadside. Output from the stacked TPY-2 radars would be combined coherently through a time-delay device that permits full instantaneous signal bandwidth to be used for range Doppler imaging, creating an elevation beam width half that of the AN/TPY-2 radar, with 2x the gain (4x times the 2-way gain) and 2x the peak and average power. Duplicate power supply and cooling units would be required, and an upload/download link would need to be added.

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/antpy-2-ground-radar-07533/
 
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Berlin attacks Trump over arms deal with Saudi Arabia

The German Foreign Ministry said the US $ 110 billion arms deal with Saudi Arabia does not contribute to easing tension in the Middle East.

"If the United States holds a huge arms deal with Saudi Arabia, we are in a very wrong way," German Foreign Minister Yagmar Gabriel told a news conference in Berlin.

The Minister stressed that the world needed new initiatives for disarmament and arms control.

"The only thing that gives hope to young people is to give them economic prospects, not an arms race."

Gabriel said the United States was based on short-sighted considerations of security. He said it was clear that banning Muslim entry into the United States was not a good idea at all, especially in support of inter-communal reconciliation efforts.

The United States and Saudi Arabia held enormous weapons during US President Donald Trump's visit to Riyadh on May 20-21.

https://arabic.rt.com/middle_east/880894-برلين-تهاجم-ترامب-بسبب-صفقة-السلاح-للسعودية/
https://arabic.rt.com/middle_east/880894-برلين-تهاجم-ترامب-بسبب-صفقة-السلاح-للسعودية/
Says someone who's country is protected by over 36 US military bases! Hypocrisy at its best..
 
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Berlin attacks Trump over arms deal with Saudi Arabia

The German Foreign Ministry said the US $ 110 billion arms deal with Saudi Arabia does not contribute to easing tension in the Middle East.

"If the United States holds a huge arms deal with Saudi Arabia, we are in a very wrong way," German Foreign Minister Yagmar Gabriel told a news conference in Berlin.

The Minister stressed that the world needed new initiatives for disarmament and arms control.

"The only thing that gives hope to young people is to give them economic prospects, not an arms race."

Gabriel said the United States was based on short-sighted considerations of security. He said it was clear that banning Muslim entry into the United States was not a good idea at all, especially in support of inter-communal reconciliation efforts.

The United States and Saudi Arabia held enormous weapons during US President Donald Trump's visit to Riyadh on May 20-21.

https://arabic.rt.com/middle_east/880894-برلين-تهاجم-ترامب-بسبب-صفقة-السلاح-للسعودية/
Says someone who's country is protected by over 36 US military bases! Hypocrisy at its best..

And that their Defence industry export is Rising more & more every year... Btw 2014-2015 a rise of 50% of arms sales...
And most importantly... an incoming important rise of their defence budget (to get to the 2% mark... meaning an increase of almost 20-26Bil$ !!). For Info, it's almost half of KSA defence budget...
 
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Berlin attacks Trump over arms deal with Saudi Arabia

The German Foreign Ministry said the US $ 110 billion arms deal with Saudi Arabia does not contribute to easing tension in the Middle East.

"If the United States holds a huge arms deal with Saudi Arabia, we are in a very wrong way," German Foreign Minister Yagmar Gabriel told a news conference in Berlin.

The Minister stressed that the world needed new initiatives for disarmament and arms control.

"The only thing that gives hope to young people is to give them economic prospects, not an arms race."

Gabriel said the United States was based on short-sighted considerations of security. He said it was clear that banning Muslim entry into the United States was not a good idea at all, especially in support of inter-communal reconciliation efforts.

The United States and Saudi Arabia held enormous weapons during US President Donald Trump's visit to Riyadh on May 20-21.

https://arabic.rt.com/middle_east/880894-برلين-تهاجم-ترامب-بسبب-صفقة-السلاح-للسعودية/
Says someone who's country is protected by over 36 US military bases! Hypocrisy at its best..
LMAO. :lol:. Germany trying to lecture the U.S on foreign policy? lol
 
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LMAO. :lol:. Germany trying to lecture the U.S on foreign policy? lol


That's not even the interesting bit.

The [German] Minister stressed that the world needed new initiatives for disarmament and arms control.
You don't have to guess whats coming next. Better dust up your Deutsche. :partay: :partay: :partay:

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That's not even the interesting bit.

The [German] Minister stressed that the world needed new initiatives for disarmament and arms control.
You don't have to guess whats coming next. Better dust up your Deutsche. :partay: :partay: :partay:

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She sounded more like our very own Jeremy Corbyn with such comments. :p:
Can't blame her much though, she's on a campaign trail. So it's normal for democracies during election period. :D

Moreover, she can take the lead in unilaterally disarming Germany(like our very own Corbyn has promised to do if elected @waz, @Blue Marlin lol ) once and for all. U S and U.K can then provide Germany with full security, since they already have military bases there anyway. :P
 
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Berlin attacks Trump over arms deal with Saudi Arabia

The German Foreign Ministry said the US $ 110 billion arms deal with Saudi Arabia does not contribute to easing tension in the Middle East.

"If the United States holds a huge arms deal with Saudi Arabia, we are in a very wrong way," German Foreign Minister Yagmar Gabriel told a news conference in Berlin.

The Minister stressed that the world needed new initiatives for disarmament and arms control.

"The only thing that gives hope to young people is to give them economic prospects, not an arms race."

Gabriel said the United States was based on short-sighted considerations of security. He said it was clear that banning Muslim entry into the United States was not a good idea at all, especially in support of inter-communal reconciliation efforts.

The United States and Saudi Arabia held enormous weapons during US President Donald Trump's visit to Riyadh on May 20-21.

https://arabic.rt.com/middle_east/880894-برلين-تهاجم-ترامب-بسبب-صفقة-السلاح-للسعودية/
Says someone who's country is protected by over 36 US military bases! Hypocrisy at its best..
They should be ashamed of themselves with their arming of Israel (subsidised Dolphin nuclear capable submarines among others) and Kurdish militias.
 
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They should be ashamed of themselves with their arming of Israel (subsidised Dolphin nuclear capable submarines among others) and Kurdish militias.
they arming the most develop country in the middle east by far and they buy weapons from us what i dont see them buy weapons from ant country in the meadle east soon (heron tp deal 650 milion dollar prefer over peredetor) they also invest in our startups
 
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Another slap in the face for Donnie's voters. A total sellout but his supporters have their heads in the sand. Sums up the so-called alt-right nowadays anyway. They are not just liars, they are incompetent liars. I would rather choose a manipulative, lying leader as long as he/she competent than this lot.
 
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