Ex-MI6 Boss Warns West Not To Insult Islam

[jbond197]

Pope said it, ex MI6 Boss said it, so I guess that make Muslims killing in response to insult of their prophet justifiable!!

Most of you said that the ones who killed in the name of Prophet were not Muslims!! So now I guess you can openly & proudly call them Muslims because you got the backing and you folks seem to be supporting the statement made !!! More Insults More killings.. That's going to be the game now!! Kudos!!!

 

[RescueRanger]

SO IT HAS TO BE PROPORTIONAL FOR YOU BUT FOR ME ITS USE OF FORCE???
IF I SAY SHIT ABOUT YOU AND YOU PUNCH ME IS THAT NOT A FORCE??
SERIOUSLY? IS THAT THE BEST YOU COULD COME UP WITH?
WHEN I DO NOT ABUSE YOUR RELIGION WHY DO YOU HAVE TO ABUSE MINE??? HOW ABOUT NO ABUSE TO ANY OF THE RELIGION OR ANYONE?
AND ABOUT DISTRUCTION OF TEMPLES THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF MOSQUES BEING DESTROYED IN YOUR LOVELY INDIA TOO ONE EXAMPLE IS BABRI MOSQUE. FOR US THAT WAS LIKE A MAKKA TOO SHOULD WE DESTROY ALL YOUR TEMPLES NOW??? GOOD FOR THAT GAME TOO THEN?
YEAH WE SAW HOW GOOD YOU GUYS RESPONDED TO A VERY SENSIBLE MOVIE PK IN INDIA SO DONT GET ME STARTED WITH THESE THINGS WHEN HAPPENS AGAINST YOUR RELIGION.

Bahi, kyon hypertension kar rahey ho? He is just another hypocrite... When I mentioned Babari mosque he started insults. Net pey to cockroach be magarmach ban sakta hain. No tension, yar.

 

[That Guy]

Hmmm- It's obvious you are upset. Afterall it was you who came quoting me and crying about your " feelings" towards me.

Okay I won't reply to you anymore and upset you. There, go in peace now

Have it your way. I have a problem with your claim, if that upsets you, simply prove it. My concerns are justified, especially since such claims are actually quite illegal in the US. Impersonating a former or current government official is illegal, and I don't want anyone on this site to get into trouble, because you decided you wanted to play pretend.

 

[RescueRanger]

Pope said it, ex MI6 Boss said it, so does that make Muslims killing in response to insult of their prophet justifiable!!

Most of you said that the ones who killed in the name of Prophet were not Muslims!! So now I guess you can openly & proudly call them Muslims because you got the backing and you folks seem to be supporting the statement made !!! More Insults More killings.. That's the game now!! Kudos!!!

That's not at all what the POPE and the Ex MI 6 chap meant. You want to twist peoples words to suit your own warped narrative, go right ahead. Just because you can, doesn't mean it's right!

 

[Orakzai]

Pope said it, ex MI6 Boss said it, so I guess that make Muslims killing in response to insult of their prophet justifiable!!

Most of you said that the ones who killed in the name of Prophet were not Muslims!! So now I guess you can openly & proudly call them Muslims because you got the backing and you folks seem to be supporting the statement made !!! More Insults More killings.. That's going to be the game now!! Kudos!!!

no one is justifying killing but why one has to provoke??
there are about 1.6 billion muslims in this world do you think they all would respond to it with the same nature?

 

[jbond197]

That's not at all what the POPE and the Ex MI 6 chap meant. You want to twist peoples words to suit your own warped narrative, go right ahead. Just because you can, doesn't mean it's right!

Below are a few of the lines from the OP. It clearly tells if you insult Islam then be prepared to be attacked or another terrorist attack. I took it from the article you posted so please don't accuse me of twisting the statement.

Those who insult Islam should expect to be attacked, suggests ex-MI6 boss as he agrees with the Pope's Charlie Hebdo comments.

The former chief of MI6 has warned that anyone insulting Islam can expect to provoke a reaction and that "there will be another terrorist attack in this country."

The article also emphasizes on restraint on the part of west but what about Muslims.. Will they always remain loose canons?

 

[notsuperstitious]

Were you respecting Islam when you destroyed the Babari Mosque? Spare us your lectures!

Those who did that thought they were only responding to an insult inflicted by Muslims, they had no intention of insulting a religion, similar to how the killers in paris did. However that happened 22 years ago. There are still hundreds if not thousands of mosques in india that are built over temples including the most sacred hindu temple in our holiest city. Those are insults inflicted by islam and we have not yet brought it down have we?

If the MI6 guy says muslims should expect violence for this, then that's equally stupid

OTOH muslims, since they ''respect'' other religions should return such ''mosques'' to hindus and practice what they seem to be preaching about ''respect'', no?

 

[RescueRanger]

then be prepared to be attacked or another terrorist attack.

2 Million Muslims living in the UK, for example. So you expect 2 million suicide bombers? Use your faculties.

 

[jbond197]

no one is justifying killing but why one has to provoke??
there are about 1.6 billion muslims in this world do you think they all would respond to it with the same nature?

Ok, I know they will not respond in the same kind. But do you think killings is gonna solve your problems? There will be more hatred, more anti Islam rallies, more attacks on Muslims and still the insults will continue..

So why not exercise restraint? Some time ignoring something brings you the best result. So why not try practicing it? Also, I read some where that the drawing a picture of Prophet Mohammed is akin to idolatry but how is it idolatry when you are neither worshiping it nor even looking at it?

 

[RescueRanger]

Those who did that thought they were only responding to an insult inflicted by Muslims, they had no intention of insulting a religion, similar to how the killers in paris did. However that happened 22 years ago. There are still hundreds if not thousands of mosques in india that are built over temples including the most sacred hindu temple in our holiest city. Those are insults inflicted by islam and we have not yet brought it down have we?

If the MI6 guy says muslims should expect violence for this, then that's equally stupid

If any INDIAN has built a mosque over your temples, please take it up with them. Indian Muslims don't represent us, nor we them.

 

[jbond197]

2 Million Muslims living in the UK, for example. So you expect 2 million suicide bombers? Use your faculties.

Now you are twisting what I said and putting words in my mouth..

Pope and ex MI6 chief is essentially saying that Muslims are unstable so don't insult Islam, draw Prophet Mohammad's pictures otherwise they will kill you.. The killing can be by any mean i.e. via suicide bombing, beheading of cops on the streets of London, attack on tube, attack on various facilities.. But unfortunately, in all this the people who had nothing to do with the insult are the ones killed in large numbers.

 

[notsuperstitious]

If any INDIAN has built a mosque over your temples, please take it up with them. Indian Muslims don't represent us, nor we them.

So you are ok with Indian muslims facing violence for not returning that temple and insulting our faith? That's our holiest temple, way way more serious than cartoons printed on paper that you have to buy to feel offended.

See this insult logic can be stretched as far as you want, the only workable solution is tolerance.

 

[RescueRanger]

So you are ok with Indian muslims facing violence for not returning that temple and insulting our faith? That's our holiest temple, way way more serious than cartoons printed on paper that you have to buy to feel offended.

See this insult logic can be stretched as far as you want, the only workable solution is tolerance.

Lol, I don't give a fig what you do to your own countrymen! Spare me the farcical lectures. Too old in the tooth, seen it all and got the t-shirt.

Now you are twisting what I said and putting words in my mouth..

Pope and ex MI6 chief is essentially saying that Muslims are unstable so don't insult Islam, draw Prophet Mohammad's pictures otherwise they will kill you.. The killing can be by any mean i.e. via suicide bombing, beheading of cops on the streets of London, attack on tube, attack on various facilities.. But unfortunately, in all this the people who had nothing to do with the insult are the ones killed in large numbers.

No, my point still stands... by that logic are all 2 million Muslims in Britain terrorists? Can you say that with certainty? If so, let me know.

 

[MastanKhan]

Don't you think his and the Pope's statement - " Those who insult Islam should expect to be attacked" is rather Insulting to Islam itself?

No it is not---it is insulting to those idiots who have no understanding. Charlie Hebdo was a third rate journalist who got glory in insulting Prophet Mohammad---. Indeed Allah gives in so many different ways.

 

[jbond197]

No, my point still stands... by that logic are all 2 million Muslims in Britain terrorists? Can you say that with certainty? If so, let me know.

No, I never said that and can never say that ever. But even 200 attacking and killing innocent people can sully the image of all 2 Million. Wouldn't the act of those 200 people scare everyone and make them look at all Muslims with suspicion? I know that's called Islamophobia but can you really blame common people who have not met a muslim more than twice in their lives for this? To be honest, Indians have much more exposure to Muslims so we know more good and bad of Muslims than most others..

No it is not---it is insulting to those idiots who have no understanding. Charlie Hebdo was a third rate journalist who got glory in insulting Prophet Mohammad---. Indeed Allah gives in so many different ways.

Mastan Bhai, please don't say this.. You are essentially saying that Charlie Hebdo was killed on Allah's command.. It's really weird that on one hand you declared the killers as non muslims and other you are saying this..

I am sure Allah would have forgiven the sins of Charlie Hebdo.. Also, why do we humans need to get involved in such things. Let the god deal with the godly matters..