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Everything is NOT Zia’s fault – here are 6 reasons why

Yes i read it and i agree with him, nice reply @Oscar :tup:
Every dictator has goods and bads but in my list Yahya Khan was the worst dictator
And yes i agree im not a good poster:sick:
but mein aap logon se seekh raha hun.

Yahya Khan was a Gagguu. Just because he was incharge when you lost E.Pakistan does not mean he was the worst. He was handed a sinking ship by Ayub Khan and all he wanted was to have his party while it lasted.
 
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@Sedqa

Apart from losing Siachen & making the Northern Areas smaller,what about other issues like Sectarian voilence,political voilence, Extremism, Talibanization, crime,murder,terrible law & order. Zia may have lost Siachen, but today Extremism is eating your country like a PARASITE which is the biggest threat. Is everything linked with Siachen,where not a blade of grass grows.This was not the case earlier,Karachi was a peaceful city in the early 1970's,all this changed after the Afghan war.

Peshawar had a nightclub in the 70s. Go figure.
 
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Until Zia Pakistan wasnt falling prey to part of western conspiracy. He came, he opened the door, and he fulfilled everything for the west. True to the word, "Little west in Asia", which was coined during its independence.
 
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I don't understand how you're an expert on anything, least of all Pakistani culture. So please relocate to an Indian thread, where your comments will be more relevant and maybe even appreciated.

I am not claiming I am expert.

Read what I posted.

Zia's era saw arrival of AK culture in Pakistan which is hunting Pakistan even now.

Isn't this true?

Also extremism rose in his tenure, there are many experts and members who will tell you this.
 
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Cough; Cough;

WRONG!.

1. The GDP was bolstered NOT by a booming economy but an influx of US aid. Otherwise the economy was in shambles.

2. LMFAO! Movies, songs.. total crackdown was taken on the industry, the so called arts and culture did not come out DUE to Zia; it came out because people refused to be repressed in his tyrannical usage of so called Islamic laws.

3. That is like a drug addict justifying usage of heroin to get high on account of trying to overcome depression.

4. In Bhutto's era, earlier.. load shedding wasnt there either.. what a stupid point to try and defend uncle Zia. There was no load shedding because the economy was still mostly agricultural and the industry along with the luxuries of life had not yet taken hold.

5. Point number 3 is the reason why the whole crime and lawlessness came into the country. Those Afghans were allowed to stay and breed while they were recruited for the "Jihad". Without considering what other activities these people brought with them.

So no, Zia-ul-Haq aka Zai-ul-Haq (in his own signature) .. was possibly the worst dictator to hit Pakistan( in the long line of blotched military rule)

@Hyperion @Secur
I don't know mate . The whole article looks like it has been written by a child trying to convince his school teacher why Aslam is his best friend and a "good boy" . To me , it isn't even worthy of a serious debate but like always its heart warming to see how Zia's supporters have once again mounted a pseudo Islamic defense . Masha'Allah!

Are you shia or qadiani? , normally these two groups curse zia.
Simply Wow! Ironically the very mindset you are displaying is considered another of Zia's achievements .
 
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Learn to reply with intelligence. And yes, that is the example of democracy. The fact that you used emoticons makes one wonder exactly what(if any) useful experience or knowledge you have in terms of this subject.



You forgot to mention Mules and Donkeys.
Wow , just another of great example , just a single of democracies in asia ?
Why not chinese democracy, why because its just not been written like in the mother of damocrazies ? UK?
You made it laughable , by just putting INDIA as an example of , every thing good in the world?
Sorry, it still behind china , in every form?
You cant argue on tht, cause its the reality?
 
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I strongly advise you to read Javed Chaudhry 's book Zero Point and Bhutto's last 101 days before coming to any conclusion. I don't remember the name of author of second book,but Zero Point is really a good book.
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Bhutto had major role to play some retards try to defend him after his death but that was a complete retard and destroyed Pakistan and also got his political rivals killed
 
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Bhutto had major role to play some retards try to defend him after his death but that was a complete retard and destroyed Pakistan and also got his political rivals killed

Bhutto's nationalization policy destroyed educational, banking and large scale industrial sectors in paksitan. pakistan economy could not recover ever since his nationalization facade.
 
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Karma Karma everywhere ..... hope your are enjoying your Karma ...... :coffee:

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U could not get his point.Everything is not about human casualties. Pakistanis r paying a heavy price for the wrong misdeeds done by Zia. Infact In the last decade more people have died in Pakistan due to sectarian/political voilence then else where. What about Extremism,Talibanization,crime,murder,terible law & order.This was not the case earlier.Pakistan was a peacefull city in the 1970,s.One of the PDF members tell me,Peshawar had a night club in the early 1970's,who could have believed this.
 
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Bhutto's nationalization policy destroyed educational, banking and large scale industrial sectors in paksitan. pakistan economy could not recover ever since his nationalization facade.

PPP have have been stealing billions and hiring useless people for these nationalized sectors. Last year Pakistan lost $5 billion. Even now PPP is against selling of PIA in which they hired thousands of their party workers to compensate party loyality.

Good thing is N now is selling shares, even if these are ''IMF'' conditions.
 
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PPP have have been stealing billions and hiring useless people for these nationalized sectors. Last year Pakistan lost $5 billion. Even now PPP is against selling of PIA in which they hired thousands of their party workers to compensate party loyality.

Good thing is N now is selling shares, even if these are ''IMF'' conditions.

My professor in punjab university used to tell us that before Bhutto's regime, pakistan had a high-tech Semiconductor industry in 60s which was totally destroyed due to nationalization process because people running these high-tech industries either left the country or opted to do business in non-nationalized sectors. If we did not have Bhutto's stupid nationalization policy paksitan would have been today a major player in semiconductor technology and trade and would have earned multi biilion $ in this field. We would have been manufacturing electronic components and devices in our own country. Now we import everything be it a transistor, diode, resistor , capacitor from other asian countries such as Singpore, South korea, china and japan.
 
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