Europe coronavirus cases and deaths

[UKBengali]

France over the last 24 hours (hospitals statistics only)

Cases : 106.206 (+2.633)
Deaths : 10.643 (+514)
Hospitalized : 31.779 (-513)
Persons in ICU : 6.457 (-273)
Recovered in hospitals : 31.000 (+2.195)

@UKBengali Some "positive" news. The number of hospitalized people has decreased for the first time,while the number of persons in ICU keeps decreasing -273 compared to yesterday. The number of new cases has decreased compared to yesterday while the number of people who recovered from it in hospitals is accelerating.

Sadly however,if we count deaths at nursing homes 1.438 (514+924) people died of the coronavirus over the last 24 hours,bringing the total to 17.167 who lost their lives du to coronavirus.

A massive tragedy but we need to take any "positive" we can out of this.

Just saw the daily Government Press Conference in the UK and the two medical experts are of the opinion that the UK is either at the peak or very close to it.
New cases seem to have stabilised over the last 2 weeks and the number of people needing hospital treatment for Covid-19 is slowly starting to come down.

All talk is now of what happens next - almost certainly the "lockdown" will be extended by another 3 weeks when it is announced tomorrow officially, but if we hopefully see substantial falls in the number of new cases and then deaths over the next few weeks, the government would probably relax some of the restrictions that have been imposed in 3 weeks in my opinion.

Economy is being absolutely trashed and 9 million workers( 3 times government estimates) are having their wages subsidised to the tune of 80% by the government.

It is a very difficult one on how to start lifting at least some of the restrictions but everyone is so scared that people may just not want to either send their children to school or go back to work - public and companies are following the restrictions even more than the government ever hoped for!


PS - France looking like it has more people dying in nursing home/community compared to the hospitals whereas in UK it seems to be 2:1 split of hospital/(nursing home/community) deaths.

PSS - Unfortunately both France and UK look like they may both have the same horrendous death toll in the end, as they are both nearly equal right now and seem to be very close to each other in the epidemic cycle.

 

[dBSPL]

Some news saying that the number of Covid cases in Charles de Gaulle has exceeded 700s.

 

[Vergennes]

France over the last 24 hours (hospitals statistics only)

Cases : 108.847 (+2.641)
Deaths : 11.060 (+417)
Hospitalized : 31.305 (-474)
Persons in ICU : 6.248 (-209)
Recovered in hospitals : 32.812 (+1.857)

 

[UKBengali]

France over the last 24 hours (hospitals statistics only)

Cases : 108.847 (+2.641)
Deaths : 11.060 (+417)
Hospitalized : 31.305 (-474)
Persons in ICU : 6.248 (-209)
Recovered in hospitals : 32.812 (+1.857)

UK seems to have now almost certainly be in the peak as deaths have stayed constant at a still unbelievable 800 people passing away in the last 24 hours. The "good" news is that they have not gone over the 1000 number as a lot of people were fearing.

As regards some stats:

1. Hospital admissions are down 5% over last day.
2. New infections are constant for last 15 days.

Here are the 5 conditions that the UK government has set out to ease the lockdown after announcing today that the "lockdown" measures will carry on for at least another 3 weeks:

• 1. Making sure the NHS can cope
• 2. Evidence showing a sustained and consistent fall in daily death rates
• 3. Reliable data showing the rate of infection is decreasing to manageable levels
• 4. Being confident in the range of operational challenges, like ensuring testing and the right amount of PPE, are in hand
• 5. Being confident any adjustments will not risk a second peak

It looks from what the government is saying above that they are going to be very careful and we may see quite restrictive measures for some time to come.

 

[Vergennes]

@UKBengali Do you really believe people will carry on their lives as usual as if nothing happened when lockdown is over ? Only when a vaccine is found that people will go back to normal life as before,until then.....

Macron announced schools will gradually re-open after the 11th may but I can tell you a majority of parents (myself included) won't let their kids go back to school..... In fact he finally might announce schools will remain closed til the next academic year...

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

@UKBengali Do you really believe people will carry on their lives as usual as if nothing happened when lockdown is over ? Only when a vaccine is found that people will go back to normal life as before,until then.....

Macron announced schools will gradually re-open after the 11th may but I can tell you a majority of parents (myself included) won't let their kids go back to school..... In fact he finally might announce schools will remain closed til the next academic year...

What if vaccine is not available till next year than?

 

[UKBengali]

@UKBengali Do you really believe people will carry on their lives as usual as if nothing happened when lockdown is over ? Only when a vaccine is found that people will go back to normal life as before,until then.....

Macron announced schools will gradually re-open after the 11th may but I can tell you a majority of parents (myself included) won't let their kids go back to school..... In fact he finally might announce schools will remain closed til the next academic year...

What if vaccine is not available till next year than?

Yes there will be no return to normal till there is a vaccine available.

As I said before scientists here at Oxford University are 80% sure that they will have an effective vaccine ready for mass production by September this year. When it is ready, it will be shared so that drug companies all over the world can manufacture it to allow the world's population to be immunised as soon as soon as possible.

In the absence of a vaccine, yes things will never be the same again. UK government has pretty much admitted that the only escape from the all the "lockdown' measures is a vaccine. Anyhow as Vergennes says people are frightened and will not follow any government instruction to go back to normal without a vaccine.

While the UK government has been doing pretty well since middle of March in handling this crisis, it was led by companies and the public into the "lockdown" that came into effect on March 24. Companies were already sending their workers home and many parents took their children out of school fearing infection. The government finally realised that it was not able to lead the country and was forced to follow it.

I believe that before a vaccine is widely available, which even if the Oxford scientists are correct will take till early next year for mass availability, then the best hope of getting something back to normal is mass testing, tracking and tracing via both human and smartphone apps(people in West will have to accept this as the price of gaining some freedoms again) and a sufficient buildup of health service capacity.

From what I can see in the UK, the government will have the infrastructure in place for all the above by the middle/end of May this year.

If schools are opened again, then it will be limited in the sense that children may only go in on say alternate days to allow "social distancing" guidelines to be followed. Education will be delivered in a limited form for some time.

Getting some businesses working again will require limited trials to see how best to allow as much economic activity while keeping infections down below some arbitrary figure the government has as a target. Pubs, clubs and cinemas etc will probably may not be able to open and be economically viable with the "social distancing" guidelines they will be required to follow.

Yes forget about anything like normal before an effective vaccine is widely available throughout the whole world.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

Yes there will be no return to normal till there is a vaccine available.

As I said before scientists here at Oxford University are 80% sure that they will have an effective vaccine ready for mass production by September this year. When it is ready, it will be shared so that drug companies all over the world can manufacture it to allow the world's population to be immunised as soon as soon as possible.

In the absence of a vaccine, yes things will never be the same again. UK government has pretty much admitted that the only escape from the total "lockdown' measures is a vaccine. Anyhow as Vergennes says people are frightened and will not follow any government instruction to go back to normal without a vaccine.

While the UK government has been doing pretty well since middle of March in handling this crisis, it was led by companies and the public into the "lockdown" that came into effect on March 24. Companies were already sending their workers home and many parents took their children out of school fearing infection. The government finally realised that it was not able to lead the country and was forced to follow it.

I believe that before a vaccine is widely available, which even if the Oxford scientists are correct will take till early next year for mass availability, then the best hope of getting something back to normal is mass testing, tracking and tracing via both human and smartphone apps(people in West will have to accept this as the price of gaining some freedoms again) and a sufficient buildup of health service capacity.

From what I can see in the UK, the government will have the infrastructure in place for all the above by the middle/end of May this year.

If schools are opened again, then it will be limited in the sense that children may only go in on say alternate days to allow "social distancing" guidelines to be followed. Education will be delivered in a limited form for some time.

Getting businesses working again will require limited trials to see how best to allow as much economic activity while keeping infections down below some arbitrary figure the government has as a target.

Yes forget about anything like normal before an effective vaccine is widely available throughout the whole world.

Bro I have a question. Do you know Urdu?

 

[UKBengali]

Bro I have a question. Do you know Urdu?

Nope.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

Nope.

He is Dr Ata ur Rehman who is Incharge of Prime Minister of Pakistan's Task Force for Corona Virus. He said yesterday in this show from 9:55 that he talked to ppl making vaccine including those in Oxford. But he said that that atleast 8 months to 1.5 years will be taken for the vaccine to commercialize. He than said to forget vaccine. It maybe available for us in next winter

 

[Vergennes]

Some news saying that the number of Covid cases in Charles de Gaulle has exceeded 700s.

All the 2.300 personnels of the carrier strike group were tested at their return to the Toulon naval base. 940 were tested positive and 645 negative. Other results weren't known yet. 500 personnels showed symptoms of the coronavirus,20 were hospitalized,8 are under oxygen and 1 is in ICU. All personnels tested negative are put in quarantine at military facilities.

There's quite a controversy ongoing in France about the Charles de Gaulle. It's claimed its commander wanted to interrupt its deployment and mission back in march after several cases of coronavirus were reported,but the ministry of the armies reportedly refused,although it denied the allegation. Several investigations have been launched.

 

[UKBengali]

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All the 2.300 personnels of the carrier strike group were tested at their return to the Toulon naval base. 940 were tested positive and 645 negative. Other results weren't known yet. 500 personnels showed symptoms of the coronavirus,20 were hospitalized,8 are under oxygen and 1 is in ICU. All personnels tested negative are put in quarantine at military facilities.

There's quite a controversy ongoing in France about the Charles de Gaulle. It's claimed its commander wanted to interrupt its deployment and mission back in march after several cases of coronavirus were reported,but the ministry of the armies reportedly refused,although it denied the allegation. Several investigations have been launched.

This is quite interesting out of this unfortunate mishap on the French CSG.

Out of at least 940 that were tested positive, 20 needed to be hospitalised so far and only 1 is in a very serious condition in ICU - hope for the best for this patient.

Will be very interesting to see exactly how this plays out as it will give valuable data on how Covid-19 affects a large sample of relatively young and fit people.

 

[Vergennes]

This is quite interesting out of this unfortunate mishap on the French CSG.

Out of 940 that were tested positive, 20 needed to be hospitalised so far and only 1 is in a very serious condition in ICU - hope for the best for this patient.

Will be very interesting to see exactly how this plays out as it will give valuable data on how Covid-19 affects a large sample of relatively young and fit people.

The first investigations will have to reveal how the crew was actually infected. Not too hard for a virus to spread out especially in such a small and densely populated place that an aircraft carrier is,where social distancing measures can't be applied. Same applies for other naval vessels. This fiasco will make lot of noise.

 

[UKBengali]

The first investigations will have to reveal how the crew was actually infected. Not too hard for a virus to spread out especially in such a small and densely populated place that an aircraft carrier is,where social distancing measures can't be applied. Same applies for other naval vessels. This fiasco will make lot of noise.

Yes France will first definitely need to find out how the infection got onto the CSG in the first place.

The silver lining is that this is the the first real life mass experiment that will give accurate data on how Covid-19 affects this particular demographic - relatively young and fit people.

Many governments will be paying attention as this data will help in tackling this virus in their countries.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

@UKBengali
Coronavirus pandemic: UK hospital death toll rises by 847

LONDON: The hospital death toll across the United Kingdom due to the coronavirus pandemic rose 847 to 14,576, as of 1600 GMT on April 16, the health ministry said.

In all, 341,551 people have been tested of whom 108,692 tested positive, it added.

“Today’s number of announced deaths indicates three things. Firstly, the UK is one of the hardest hit countries in the world from this first wave,” said James Naismith, director of the Rosalind Franklin Institute.

“Secondly, the UK seems to have passed the peak for the first wave,” Naismith said. “Finally, we will likely see only a gradual decrease from the peak and this means we will see several hundreds of announced deaths every day for some time ahead.”

The highest daily death toll reported in the United Kingdom was on April 9, when the government said 980 people had died. Since then the daily toll has declined slightly and was under 800 for much of this week, until it rose by 861 as of April 15.

The death toll in English hospitals rose 738 to 13,134, the health service said.

“30 of the 738 patients (aged between 34 and 92 years old) had no known underlying health condition,” it added.