Maea
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@Signalian , I suggest a deeper focus will create meaningful discussion. I'm responding to a portion from paragraph 4 which is relevant to this thread.
I sense you're responding to your ideas instead of what is being said. We are NOT attacking the institution. Let this become clear first. When you understand this part, you are likely to drop your shields and give more attention.
What exactly being said is following: There are people in Establishment (and defence forces) who because of their personal agendas are harming this country. They're supporting terrorist groups (PTM) and separatist political parties (MQM and JUIF) going against "the doctrines of the institution" propagated over last 20 years. They are themselves corrupt and supporting corrupt political groups, resultantly damaging the country - but when one points a finger at them and reveals how much harm they're causing, they conveniently HIDE behind the institution.
What they exhibit is called "Tribal Thinking" which some politicians also use to divide this Nation into groups and parts. It's a destructive thinking that leads to fragmentation. Every weak political party wants to create its interest group, like PPP has created "Sindhi party", MQM has created "Mahajir Party" and PTM is working to create "Pashtoon Party" and when members of these parties commit crimes, they seek refuge behind their created tribes: "Sindh Card", "Mahajir Card" and "Pashtoon Card" On the same lines, when corrupt military generals feel insecure, they do propaganda that "Institution is being attacked".
You think you love your country and institutions, guess what... we love our country and our institutions as much. There is no you and me, but we - and we want to save this homeland from every corrupt whether they are in civilian or wear some uniform. Let's stop giving all corrupt a shelter in the name of a political party, ethnicity, a tribe, or an institution. They have committed enough crimes and had enough hiding.
Sir, everything come back to" who".
Its not like @Signalian or others dont know about corruption in Armed Forces, the question is who is the end beneficiary of this system? Answer is simple, every Pakistani. The middle class you are talking about, who want to "change", is the same who daily engage in bribery, theft and what not. Dont tell me it was the Army who made pakistani society corrupt. Average pakistani is corrupt bcz he/she wants to be. I know many pakistani, in italy, who are willing to pay upto 5k euros just to get a driving licence, bcz they dont want to study or are just too dumb to get it.
Lets say a general is corrupt and the gov of that time knows, do you think it will prosecute him or it is most likely that they will use him as a tool when they "need" him? What im trying to say is that in pakistan everybody in corrupt not just Army or politician. we as people are the end beneficiary of this system. They do it bcz we allow them.
Untill our leaders dont start taking directly from our pockets there will be no change.
Thats why i think there is no such thing as a "martyr card". They dont have to pull anything, our beloved politician take care of them even before there are is any accusation/prosecution. This mess suits current pakistani society very well.