Erecting a monument to Jinnah in Bangladesh

[Skies]

on the other hand Border killing was unquestionably inhuman, but I ask u for being little prudence, and think why that incident was in increase in the last few years including border fencing. as a neighbor did we play our role enough, even we let happen the shocking event on 21 august, and forgot it in our own country.

What was our role to stop border killing? What are you talking about?

think more deeply, who gave the passage for weapons to ulfa ,a banned community.

Broken India would be good for us. They will be weaker and can not play notorious game in BD. If ISI helped ULFA then I do not bother.

And again think wisely, when huji , a pak financed extremists groupn,demonstrates in our country then what impression of our country is visualized.

HUJI by PK's finance? Prove? As far I know India is behind.

if it is not enough for u, then think judiciously, is there any bangladeshi got caught red handed in mumbai or delhi for bomb blasts, if answer is yes then i believe u got ur answers , as my implications are not ambiguous.

Bangladehis in Mumbi blast? prove?

now my wise friend think a little more,before and immediate after of the liberation war we were reprehensible to pakis, and after the scenario slowly had been changed. never grown love and brotherhood triggered , which is still lacking in pak itself and will remain so, in the name of religion.


so think before u ask

Yes there is basis of religion in our relationship with PK, what is wrong here? The environment is so good here. You will find them friendly if you do not pull history. No, Hasina league is responsible for bad relation. She spreads hatred.

I have noticed one thing here. Even one year ago PK members have good relation with BD members here. But constantly anti-pakistani news and slavery of India by your Hasina make them indifferent to us. I think if Hasina comes again then PDF will close BD section here, lol. And there will be no existence of any PK-BD relation and we will become India's puppet.

Anyway, things are not as bad as you are thinking. I think you are too much exposed to Hasina's media.


WHo was behind BDR massacrer?

 

[bangali]

That is why you if we were with W. Pk then we would not have to import from India. Wait, do not call me Razakar now. I am saying the truth. Today we are small country, small power, so India dominates our market for those commodities and also sells other low quality products in dumping price. Few days ago India charged extra charge on cotton in exporting to BD. That is how India dominates our some major sectors. If we were one country then we could get cotton in lower price from W.PK today, also some other fruits and foods. I am not talking an behalf joining with PK here. I am just saying about the benefits of having bigger country if you understand.

And about Bangladeshi films on 71, they only show the killing in war time. Well, good. Those movies alway make us emotional, good. Now there should be some films and investigations on Mujib's misrule, Agartala conspiracy and India's interests. And movies on 47 when we had some good memories with W.PK at the very beginning.

Now at last, do not submerse into hatred for PK only, now think about Indian hegemony. PK does not need you. But you are in trouble with India. So let's see if you can get jointly.

be some sensible man , we had no good memories with pakis . did indians advise pakis to take the revenues , rob the bangalis, keep us unemployed, make the national language urdu, even not to accept mujib's being minister.
did indians supplied ammunitions to kill 25000 unarmed ppl on 25th march without any kind of provocation. that was before the beginning of war. how many bangalis were serving in the the then wp? and how many were posted in ep? what was their rank?
how they were being treated?

u don't have any idea of agartala conspiracy, read some , and then ask.

relating cotton, i give u some sites' addresses of which u will get ur ans : Cotton Prices to Drop as U.S., India Harvest Crops, India's Top Buyer Says - Bloomberg,

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

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bangabandhu had a bad time (as he described as-------ami paeci chorer khoni) unluckily with crooked ppl , along with famine, conspirators reared by pak and usa, when he was trying to revive our nation from ashes
proof is vivid they fleed to usa , and even currently, pak request not to prosecute war criminals. other myths about of bangabandhu r untrustworthy and shoud not belive, as those r propaganda from the opposition to rationalize his killings.


i think u need to read more and come out of fantasy.




u urself suggested that big country is better, then why not unified british era territory.

 

[kobiraaz]

I m Infinitely shocked when our nation was abused with the word "shameless", no body uttered a single word, but when i wrote to protest it ,my own country ppl turned against me. what a nation we r!

If we have problems of our own,do we need to discuss it here? do we need to b unified with pakis and agree with them if they say something disgracing?

though I m dumbfounded, I assure u Al will not regain it's regime of power for the next time if they can't satisfy ppl .

on the other hand Border killing was unquestionably inhuman, but I ask u for being little prudence, and think why that incident was in increase in the last few years including border fencing. as a neighbor did we play our role enough, even we let happen the shocking event on 21 august, and forgot it in our own country.

think more deeply, who gave the passage for weapons to ulfa ,a banned community.

And again think wisely, when huji , a pak financed extremists groupn,demonstrates in our country then what impression of our country is visualized.

if it is not enough for u, then think judiciously, is there any bangladeshi got caught red handed in mumbai or delhi for bomb blasts, if answer is yes then i believe u got ur answers , as my implications are not ambiguous.

now my wise friend think a little more,before and immediate after of the liberation war we were reprehensible to pakis, and after the scenario slowly had been changed. never grown love and brotherhood triggered , which is still lacking in pak itself and will remain so, in the name of religion.


so think before u ask

yea i didnt utter a word when he called us shameless cause i kinda agree with him. We are shameless. We are erecting statue of Indira who funded shanti bahini to destabilize my homeland and maybe responsible for Zia'r murder..

and listen what you wrote in the first post is not wrong. I used to hate pakistanis from my core. But after knowing about 'nationalism in islam ' i forgave them. I have no double standard. Being a muslim i am obliged to follow Prophet (sm) teaching.

if you call me rajakar for that i give you damn

 

[Skies]

be some sensible man , we had no good memories with pakis . did indians advise pakis to take the revenues , rob the bangalis, keep us unemployed, make the national language urdu, even not to accept mujib's being minister.
did indians supplied ammunitions to kill 25000 unarmed ppl on 25th march without any kind of provocation. that was before the beginning of war. how many bangalis were serving in the then wp? and how many were posted in ep? what was their rank?
how were they were being treated?

Please compare any decade with 60-70 in BD's known history, when the likes of 4 Universities (CTG, BUET, Rajshahi, Agri), 4 BITS (Rangunia, Ghajipur, Khlishpur and Rajshhi), Medical Colleges, Army, Komolapur as the finnest Rail Station, Parliament Bhabhan as the finest architecture, 247 jute mills (Adamji as the largest in Asia), Industrial City like Patenga (Steel Mill as one of the largest in south asia, Dry Dock as a great dock yard, both two sea ports, Eastern Refinery, GM Plant etc), Khalispur (News Print Mills, Jute mill, Pakshi paper Mill etc), Fenchuganj Fertilizer Factory etc have been built, regards.

Hmm, and you forgot to mention Kaptai Dam which was completed in 1962 and many roads and railway system, telephone system, FDC. It seems our most of basic structures was built in that time. And after then no decade is as prosperous as 1960-70 due to our own corruption, political dispute, lacking in skill, and patriotism. Although we are modern now but it takes 38 years on the basis of our previous set-up which was built in Pakistan period.

-Randomly copied from other posts.

 

[bangali]

[/QUOTE]
a muslim i am obliged to follow Prophet (sm) teaching.

if you call me rajakar for that i dont give you damn[/QUOTE]



ohhhhhhh u r a real razakar, inherently razakar, not for saying ill of us , but what a treachery u r doing with urself. if u real patriot go back to ur country and shout as much in ur favour. why r u living with some shameless ppl.

dont do this, we will erect more those of gandhis and monuments for our martyrs.

 

[kobiraaz]

ohhhhhhh u r a real razakar, inherently razakar, not for saying ill of us , but what a treachery u r doing with urself. if u real patriot go back to ur country and shout as much in ur favour. why r u living with some shameless ppl.

dont do this, we will erect more those of gandhis and monuments for our martyrs.

lol india is closer.. It is you who is going to leave... You will get lot of statues there to worship


r u living with some shameless ppl.

dont do this, we will erect more those of gandhis and monuments for our martyrs.[/QUOTE]

lol india is closer.. It is you who is going to leave... You will get lot of statues there to worship

 

[bangali]

Please compare any decade with 60-70 in BD's known history, when the likes of 4 Universities (CTG, BUET, Rajshahi, Agri), 4 BITS (Rangunia, Ghajipur, Khlishpur and Rajshhi), Medical Colleges, Army, Komolapur as the finnest Rail Station, Parliament Bhabhan as the finest architecture, 247 jute mills (Adamji as the largest in Asia), Industrial City like Patenga (Steel Mill as one of the largest in south asia, Dry Dock as a great dock yard, both two sea ports, Eastern Refinery, GM Plant etc), Khalispur (News Print Mills, Jute mill, Pakshi paper Mill etc), Fenchuganj Fertilizer Factory etc have been built, regards.

Hmm, and you forgot to mention Kaptai Dam which was completed in 1962 and many roads and railway system, telephone system, FDC. It seems our most of basic structures was built in that time. And after then no decade is as prosperous as 1960-70 due to our own corruption, political dispute, lacking in skill, and patriotism. Although we are modern now but it takes 38 years on the basis of our previous set-up which was built in Pakistan period.

-Randomly copied from other posts.

and who got the honey.----one sows , another reaps.



for ur convenience:

1947

August 15: Partition of British India, Pakistan and India become two independent states.

1948

March 11: General strike by students protesting at the exclusion of Bengali as an official language.
March 21: Governor-General of Pakistan Muhammad Ali Jinnah declares in a civic reception that "Urdu, and only Urdu" will remain as the state language.[2]
March 24: Jinnah reasserts his 'Urdu-only' policy in a speech at Curzon Hall at the University of Dhaka.
March 28: Jinnah reiterates his language policy on radio.

1949

June 23: Formation of the Awami Muslim League

1952

February 21: Bengali Language Movement reaches its peak as the police open fire on protesting students.

1953

April 17: The Awami Muslim League becomes the Awami League.
September: A. K. Fazlul Huq forms the Krishak Sranik Party.

1954

March 8–11: The United Front wins most of the seats in the East Bengal Legislative Assembly.
May 30: Governor General Ghulam Muhammad deposes United Front government and establishes Governor-rule.

1955

June 6: The United Front government is reinstated, Awami League does not participate.
October 14: 'East Bengal' renamed 'East Pakistan'.

1956

February 29: Bengali becomes one of the state languages of Pakistan.

1958

October 7: Constitution abrogated and martial law declared in Pakistan.

1963

February&nbsp21: Inauguration of the Shaheed Minar language martyr memorial.

1966

Six point Bengali nationalist movement led by Sheikh Mujibur Rahman emerges.

1968

Agartala Conspiracy Case filed by the government of Pakistan accusing Sheikh Mujibur Rahman and others of sedition.

1969

January–February: Mass Uprising of '69 (ঊনসত্তরের গণ-অভ্যুত্থা&#2472 in East Pakistan.

1970

March 25: Ayub Khan resigns and Agha Mohammad Yahya Khan assumes power under martial law.
November 12: 1970 Bhola cyclone
December 7: First general election in Pakistan. Awami League gains majority.

[edit] Liberation War (1971)
Main article: Timeline of Bangladesh Liberation War

March 7: Sheikh Mujibur Rahman makes his historic freedom speech.
March 25–26: Pakistan Army launches Operation Searchlight at midnight on the 25th, marking the start of the 1971 Bangladesh atrocities. Sheikh Mujib is arrested.
March 27: Major Ziaur Rahman broadcasts the declaration of independence over the radio.
March 31: Kushtia resistance begins.[3]
April 2: Jinjira genocide
April 10: Formation of a provisional Bangladesh government-in-exile.[4]
April 12: M. A. G. Osmani takes command of the Bangladesh Armed Forces.
April 17: The government-in-exile takes oath at Mujibnagar.
April 18: Battle of Daruin, Comilla and Battle of Rangamati-Mahalchari waterway, Chittagong Hill Tracts.
May 5: Gopalpur massacre, workers slain by the Pakistani Army[5]
May 20: Chuknagar massacre by the Pakistan Army.
May 24: Swadhin Bangla Betar Kendra radio station established in Kolkata.
July 11–17: Sector Commanders Conference 1971.
August 16: Operation Jackpot, Bangladesh naval commando operation.
August 20: Flight Lieutenant Matiur Rahman attempts to defect after hijacking a fighter plane.
September 5: Battle of Goahati, Jessore.
September 28: Bangladesh Air Force functional.
October 13: Dhaka guerrillas kill Abdul Monem Khan, governor of East Pakistan.
October 28: Battle of Dhalai Outpost, Srimongol.
November 9: Six small ships constitute the first fleet of Bangladesh Navy.
November 16: Battle of Ajmiriganj, an 18 hour encounter between MB Freedom Fighters and the Pakistan army.
November 20–21: Battle of Garibpur between India and the Pakistan Army.
November 21: Mitro Bahini, a joint force of Bangladesh and Indian troops formed.
November 22: Battle of Boyra, involving Pakistani and Indian air force.
December 3: Indo-Pakistani War of 1971 breaks out. Bangladesh Air Force destroys Pakistani oil depots.[6]
December 4: India officially invades East Pakistan.
December 6: India becomes the first country to recognize Bangladesh. Swadhin Bangla Betar Kendra radio station becomes Bangladesh Betar.
December 7: Liberation of Jessore, Sylhet and the Moulovi Bazar.

December 9: Chandpur and Daudkandi liberated.
December 10: Liberation of Laksham. Two Bangladeshi ships sunk mistakenly by Indian air attack.

December 11: Liberation of Hilli, Mymenshingh, Kushtia and Noakhali.
December 14: Selective genocide of nationalist intellectuals, liberation of Bogra.
December 16: Surrender of the Pakistan army and liberation of Dhaka.
December 22: The provisional government of Bangladesh arrives in Dhaka from exile.

[edit] Post-independence Bangladesh (1971-Present)
Main article: History of Bangladesh after independence
[edit] The 1970s

1972

February 10: Sheikh Mujibur Rahman returns to Bangladesh.
February 9: The 25-year Indo-Bangladeshi Treaty of Friendship, Cooperation and Peace is signed in Dhaka.
March 17: Indian army leaves Dhaka.
March 19: The prime ministers of Bangladesh and India sign the Joint River Commission bilateral working group.[7]
November 4: Constitution of the Peoples Republic of Bangladesh is adopted by the Assembly.
December 16: Constitution of Bangladesh becomes effective.

1973
Main article: 1973 in Bangladesh

March 7: First general election in Bangladesh is held, Bangladesh Awami League secures a majority.
September 6: Bangladesh joins the Non-Aligned Movement(NAM).
December 15: Gallantry awards for wartime service published in the Bangladesh Gazette.

1974
Main article: 1974 in Bangladesh

April 9: A tripartite agreement is signed between Ban
gladesh, India and Pakistan regarding post-war humanitarian issues.[8]

February 22: Pakistan recognizes Bangladesh.[9]
September 17: Bangladesh joins the United Nations (UN).[10]
Bangladesh famine of 1974 cause the deaths of over one million people.
December 28: Sheikh Mujibur Rahman declares a state of emergency.

1975
Main article: 1975 in Bangladesh

January 25: A fourth amendment the constitution abolishes the parliamentary system and establishes a presidential system system in its places.
February 25: Bangladesh Krishak Sramik Awami League (BAKSAL) established under the leadership of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman as the single legitimate political party.
August 15: Assassination of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman.
November 3: On Jail Killing Day, four leaders of the liberation war are assassinated in prison.
November 7: Major General Ziaur Rahman becomes deputy Martial Law Administrator.

1976
Main article: 1976 in Bangladesh

August 29: Death of national poet Kazi Nazrul Islam.

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so u can see here------- all on a sudden, in amid of happy going kingdom, indians the kafers and villains came and ruined our once dreamt sweet , well decorated realm. how pity......

 

[bangali]

Politics: 1954–1970
Main article: History of Bangladesh (1947–1971)

The first election for East Bengal Provincial Assembly was held between 8 March and 12 March 1954. The Awami Muslim League, Krishak-Sramik Party and Nezam-e-Islam formed the United Front, on the basis of 21-points agenda.

Notable pledges contained in the 21-points were:

making Bengali one of the main state languages
autonomy for the province
reforms in education
independence of the judiciary
making the legislative assembly effective

The United Front won 215 out of 237 Muslim seats in the election. The ruling Muslim League got only nine seats. Khilafat-E-Rabbani Party got one, while the independents got twelve seats. Later, seven independent members joined the United Front while one joined the Muslim League.

There were numerous reasons for the debacle of the Muslim League. Above all, the Muslim League regime angered all sections of the people of Bengal by opposing the demand for recognition of Bangla as one of the state languages and by ordering the massacre of 1952.

The United Front got the opportunity to form the provincial government after winning absolute majority in the 1954 election. Of the 222 United Front seats, the Awami Muslim League had won 142, Krishak-Sramik Party 48, Nezam-i-Islam 19, and Ganatantri Dal 13.

The major leaders of the United Front were Huseyn Shaheed Suhrawardy and Maulana Abdul Hamid Khan Bhasani of Awami Muslim League and A. K. Fazlul Huq of Krishak-Sramik Party. Suhrawardy and Bhasani did not take part in the election and Fazlul Huq was invited to form the government. But a rift surfaced at the very outset on the question of formation of the cabinet. The unity and solidarity among the component parties of the United Front soon evaporated. Finally, on 15 May, Fazlul Huq arrived at an understanding with the Awami Muslim League and formed a 14-member cabinet with five members from that party.

But this cabinet lasted for only fourteen days. The Muslim League could not concede defeat in the elections in good grace. So, they resorted to conspiracies to dismiss the United Front government. In the third week of May, there were bloody riots between Bengali and non-Bengali workers in different mills and factories of East Bengal. The United Front government was blamed for failing to control the law and order situation in the province.

Fazlul Huq was then quoted in an interview taken by The New York Times correspondent John P Callaghan and published in a distorted form that he wanted the independence of East Bengal. Finally, on 29 May 1954, the United Front government was dismissed by the central government and Governor's rule was imposed in the province, which lasted till 2 June 1955.

Curiously enough within two months of his sacking, Fazlul Huq was appointed the central Home Minister. As Home Minister, Fazlul Huq utilised his influence to bring his party to power in East Bengal. Naturally, the United Front broke up. The Muslim members of the United Front split into two groups. In 1955 the Awami Muslim League adopted the path of secularism and non-communalism, erased the word 'Muslim' from its nomenclature and adopted the name "Awami League".[8]

Great differences began developing between the two wings of Pakistan. While the west had a minority share of Pakistan's total population, it had the largest share of revenue allocation, industrial development, agricultural reforms and civil development projects. Pakistan's military and civil services were dominated by the fair-skinned, Persian-cultured Punjabis and Afghans. Only one regiment in the Pakistani Army was Bengali. And many Bengali Pakistanis could not share the natural enthusiasm for the Kashmir issue, which they felt was leaving East Pakistan more vulnerable and threatened as a result.

 

[bangali]

lol india is closer.. It is you who is going to leave... You will get lot of statues there to worship


r u living with some shameless ppl.

dont do this, we will erect more those of gandhis and monuments for our martyrs.

lol india is closer.. It is you who is going to leave... You will get lot of statues there to worship[/QUOTE]



india is closer from the beginning , from the birth of this country, u fool

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i wonder how shameless u r!

 

[bangali]

What was our role to stop border killing? What are you talking about?



Broken India would be good for us. They will be weaker and can not play notorious game in BD. If ISI helped ULFA then I do not bother.



HUJI by PK's finance? Prove? As far I know India is behind.



Bangladehis in Mumbi blast? prove?



Yes there is basis of religion in our relationship with PK, what is wrong here? The environment is so good here. You will find them friendly if you do not pull history. No, Hasina league is responsible for bad relation. She spreads hatred.

I have noticed one thing here. Even one year ago PK members have good relation with BD members here. But constantly anti-pakistani news and slavery of India by your Hasina make them indifferent to us. I think if Hasina comes again then PDF will close BD section here, lol. And there will be no existence of any PK-BD relation and we will become India's puppet.

Anyway, things are not as bad as you are thinking. I think you are too much exposed to Hasina's media.


WHo was behind BDR massacrer?

border killing has been stopped,as indians will not use any deadly arms. few incidents may happen though it will b protested.
"george mia" an infamous character created by khaleda zia is in pakistan now. babor the ex minister confirmed of huji,and other factors u pls search internet , u will find.

i believe u ve lack of knowledge in recent activities.

 

[Bratva]

He is hardcore league supporter who brought up reading anti Pakistani books and story based on atrocity in 1971 . And thinking only that before independence we had nothing we had every thing in 1947 and would have earn many thing if we are with India .

One more thing, Awami books forgot to add Mukti bahini atrocities and killings of Non bengalies before 25 March which made Army brutal and Trigger Happy.

Like I have said earlier My Father's cousin family wiped out in Killing spree done by mukti bahini. He luckliy survived to tell the tell and rest what Army did was the equally regrettable and shameful thing.

From human psychology perspective, Tit for Tat and Taking revenge is human nature.

 

[fd24]

What happend was very sad for bangladeshis and Pakistanis. I put it down to evil corrupt short sighted leaders and people who exist everywhere.

 

[rollindays]

Bangladesh was a painful chapter of Pakistan's history, it still hurts today. No point having a reminder there of anything. Just move on, I couldn't care any less than I do about this already.

 

[Yeti]

the killing of hindus was a sick genocide in bangladesh


Bangladeshi authorities claim that 3 million people were killed, while the Hamoodur Rahman Commission, an official Pakistan Government investigation, put the figure as low as 26,000 civilian casualties. The fact is that the number of dead in Bangladesh in 1971 was almost certainly well into seven figures. It was one of the worst genocides of the World War II era, outstripping Rwanda (800,000 killed) and probably surpassing even Indonesia (1 million to 1.5 million killed in 1965-66).

 

[rollindays]

the killing of hindus was a sick genocide in bangladesh

What about the 1 million Bihari Muslims killed by the Mukti Bahini?