Erdoğan, Putin talks on S-400 missile system sale have been positive, officials confirm

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Doubled the range and speed, why do you think so?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-300_missile_system#Missiles

Currently S-400 is using S-300 missiles. They are developing new bigger missile for 400 km range. Very little known about that missile and its status.

In January 2016 it was still tested:

https://ria.ru/defense_safety/20150704/1113911709.html

That means S-400 which was stationed in Syria does NOT have these missiles. And all who made charts with 400 km range failed

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

I believe it's the lack of pragmatism that makes some turks use the "feto" as an excuse, or "EU & USA loving traitors", I believe they can't see the forest because of alll those trees

I've previously mentioned that turkish politics is similar to rooting on a football team, Besiktas, Galatasaray or Fenerbahce (e.g.), once you pick your team, you refuse to acknowledge the other teams.

With the coming referendum people are trying to change it to us or them, mentality, but what they should be focusing on is. How much power and authority do we want to give a single human, what do we have in Turkey who can prevent one person from dragging Turkey into further chaos, check and balances.

Maybe we're already in a dire situation, but walking further down the path might not be the solution.

I read some articles about EU becoming more and more racist, and all I can say to that is, so what if EU is becoming more and more racist, does it help to draw up your own frontier? Or is it just provocation to deteriorate the situation even more. Not everyone in EU are dumb, and if we act properly and punish the politicians trying to escalate the situation. We'll be better off.

what AKP and RTE are doing atm is provocing a negative respons in order to affect the turkish peoples votes. By escalating the situation and by getting the negative respons from stupid EU politicians they're trying to show the turkish people that EU can't be trusted, and that we should "somehow" punish them.

All this can be summed up to AKP is in fact cooperating with the populist politicians to drive a wedge between Turkey and EU.

AKP and RTE damn well knew the immigration deal was Bullcrap, but they made that deal to have an Ace up their sleeve when it became necessary. All the while the turkish people have to put up with the refugee camps.

Think Goddamnit! Don't let them tell you what to think, and don't let them incite you! Allah gave you a brain!!

Most probably the Turkish folks are using their "brains" after a pause of 150 years!!! Otherwise, they'd have opted for 2K GDP/person under "secular" coaltion folks engaged in perpepetual internal fights. Election results since 2002 show that they're not too upset that their investments in real state or stocks or other businesses haven't gone down for a single quarter!!!!

Sure, just call everyone FETÖcü you disagree with. You should also know this though, I always wanted to be a pilot for the airforce and even though my scores were great these FETÖ guys eliminated me in the interviews. So be careful what you are saying in real life, you might get punched in the face.

Which "real life" public place are you exactly talking about? Meyhane???
Your fists appear to move before your words. IMO, not an ideal mindset to be a fighter pilot!!!!
By the by, I took "Automata Theory" course, offered by Prof Guney Gonenc - the best folk in this field in our time, while you were probably in diapers. Who's offering that now?

 

[mehmeTcc]

Which "real life" public place are you exactly talking about? Meyhane???
Your fists appear to move before your words. IMO, not an ideal mindset to be a fighter pilot!!!!
By the by, I took "Automata Theory" course, offered by Prof Guney Gonenc - the best folk in this field in our time, while you were probably in diapers. Who's offering that now?

Do you have any idea what you are blaming people with moron? You accused me with having sympathy for a terrorist organization. %90 of the Turkish people would had given the same response I give.

I researched a bit about Güney Gönenç, he seems like a wonderful guy. Seems a bit leftist for your taste though, I am pretty sure that he also had secular thoughts as well. Oh and what is wrong with meyhanes, they are official establishments, they pay their taxes to the national government.

Next time, instead of conducting ad hominem attacks towards people just disprove their points or shut up. You just pulled the thread into off-topic without doing any meaningful contributions at all.

 

[Saithan]

Looking at HAKKIKAT's arguments you can tell that he's incapable of disproving, but chooses to argue from a different angle purely by focusing on the positive things that AKP and RTE brought.

It's similar to saying, "phew, I survived, and nevermind the 100 other people who got killed because of me".