Enough with democracy, welcome martial law?

[Last Hope]

Martial law or democracy, if you get a good leader I am in for it.

In the name of democracy have mafia ruled over Pakistan. Woe to such democracy and bring in military dictatorship (if the person is a good leader). As said by Icarus, a military leader is clean (as compared to political leaders) and AFTER he gets civil powers/controls, he starts to get spoiled. We have seen great development in Musharraf's era (leaving all his flaws at a side). What has he not done (in development)?

And according to Islam, a nation with good people will get a better, and deserving leader. But a wicked nation filled with majority of people evil at heart will get a even bigger crook to rule them. Revolution starts from your heart. And with such a nation I believe that a harsh military dictator should emerge who would be able to control the people and bring them into their senses.

Might be off-topic picture, but Jihad will save Pakistan now. The real Jihad, not Pakistani-Mullah-version Jihad.

 

[batmannow]

The last politician (though i dislike him very much) who talked about "islamic socialism" and rebuilding bridges with SU was hanged... and the last dick-tator mush (i liked his economic policies) made us join the suicidal WOT.

How about letting democrazy run its course and "maybe" refine itself... I think judiciary should be made stronger... in order to deal with these politicoz! .... if they can send Gillani the scumbag packing .... im sure they can wipe out other corrupt dogs aswell!

Sory to let you know, it was our judicairy , which kept making wrong dececions, even in Z A BHUTOO,s case, they are the responsible ones?
Croupt & heavily politisized judiciary, is not the corect Answer, today we have a judiciary, which is politicaly active & motivated, & is backed by pmln & PTI?
This judiciary, which is over-streching its mussles is clearly challanging , PAKARMY which is not acceptable to the patriotic peoples of pakistan.
I don't care what they have done with gillani, I guss he deserved it, but why they didn't gave their full dececion, on 26 th april, why they used dam poetry, instead making everything clear?
Just check the dam timming, now !
They gave the dececion , when president of pakistan was about to visit russia, which was seen a great breakthrough, in making pakistan out of american dreams, so its proven that our so-called judiciary is working with our enemies, by making hurdles in way,of pakistans librlization from american influence?
My friend, pakistan isn't is turkey, musharaf at least brought economic prosperty, to the common men in pAkistan, what democrAzy, have done for them?
Load shAding? Water shortAges? GasshAding? Crouption? KidDnapings? Bhatta mafia, highest of inflation, destractive economic conditions, lootings murders, ???
No its enough, not more than this is acceptble for us!
WOT is our own war, we should fight it out with our own resourses , not by the wish of anyone?
Plz we don't need dam bhashans, things will be changed within, 90 days!
This political, leader who even failled to run his own family, isn't have enough experiense to mangment of a family, can't do anything.
So in the EnD its would bE a martiAllaw, Withe chinse systEm in mind! A more revolutionized form of governence, with brutal force to save pakistan, forever!

 

[AdeelFaheem]

I m trying and trying very hard to recall the name of the "Civilian Politician" who had ordered 90,000 soldiers to surrender and became War Prisoner in the year 1971, resultantly brought SHAME to the nation... anyone... who could help me please.
I m trying and trying very hard to recall the name of the "Dictator" who successfully negotiated and brought those 90,000 soldiers / War Prisoners back home.

 

[Zarvan]

Sory to let you know, it was our judicairy , which kept making wrong dececions, even in Z A BHUTOO,s case, they are the responsible ones?
Croupt & heavily politisized judiciary, is not the corect Answer, today we have a judiciary, which is politicaly active & motivated, & is backed by pmln & PTI?
This judiciary, which is over-streching its mussles is clearly challanging , PAKARMY which is not acceptable to the patriotic peoples of pakistan.
I don't care what they have done with gillani, I guss he deserved it, but why they didn't gave their full dececion, on 26 th april, why they used dam poetry, instead making everything clear?
Just check the dam timming, now !
They gave the dececion , when president of pakistan was about to visit russia, which was seen a great breakthrough, in making pakistan out of american dreams, so its proven that our so-called judiciary is working with our enemies, by making hurdles in way,of pakistans librlization from american influence?
My friend, pakistan isn't is turkey, musharaf at least brought economic prosperty, to the common men in pAkistan, what democrAzy, have done for them?
Load shAding? Water shortAges? GasshAding? Crouption? KidDnapings? Bhatta mafia, highest of inflation, destractive economic conditions, lootings murders, ???
No its enough, not more than this is acceptble for us!
WOT is our own war, we should fight it out with our own resourses , not by the wish of anyone?
Plz we don't need dam bhashans, things will be changed within, 90 days!
This political, leader who even failled to run his own family, isn't have enough experiense to mangment of a family, can't do anything.
So in the EnD its would bE a martiAllaw, Withe chinse systEm in mind! A more revolutionized form of governence, with brutal force to save pakistan, forever!

Today Judicary is not corrupt the problem is corrupt PPP government who are only making efforts in one direction which is to safe corruption of Zardari and their Ministers CJ has done great thing by throwing Gillani Out and They will also not allow Marshal Law to come

 

[Leader]

ENOUGH with DEMOCRAZY, WELLCOME MARTIAL LAW!
Dear friends,
Its about time, we should stop wasting our emotions, our taxes, our lives to this stupid , shamefull, croupted , lawlessnes kind of DEMOCRAZY!
Instead , we should wellcome local bodies Made ,civil-army basseD , revolutionized martail-law.
Because in 64 years of the , history of pakistan, it was our , 3 patriotic genrls who devloped our country , our politicians allways brought us, shame.
Don't troll, & don't let anyone troll!
Compare & discuss the subject, with power to listen others!
Good luck , & thanks!

There are two batman on this forum

 

[Ark-Angel]

Let the system function - when petrol prices rise hardly some "real" protest is done (burning buses isn't protest, its like working for enemy) - so why should army interfere when people really don't care and in the end gives vote to the same people/or their kids.

The truth is that after four and a half years of sacrifices, supreme court has got some power, many people have seen the real face ofPPP / PML N / Q - system needs time to improve/change. Sacrifices are always made for better future and in the process thousands of innocents will die. Everything has a price. Much more sacrifices are needed and after 30-40 years we will have an excellent democracy. In there's some sort of "extreme" emergency only then we should ask for martial law.

I love Pakistan Army and I'm a fan of Musharraf but I don't think that, at the moment, there's any need to bring in Martial Law.

 

[Black Widow]

I'm in favour.

Democracy has given us murder, corruption, sectarian violence, killings, rapings, Political mafias, gangsters, ect.


Pakistanis behave like animals, and the only way to contain them is military dictatorship.

To hell with democrazy.

And the Martial law has given you such kind of democracy...

Democracy needs time to evolve, Your nation has not given it time. Martial law is good for Americans, Better again Martial law come and American enjoy there supermacy in Pakistan... Aameen..

 

[Al Bhatti]

Well if you notice all the Generals were blessed by America and the aid was given to each of them

They always remained under the blessings of the United States and the US used them howsoever they preferred.

Sir,

But the politicians are also blessed with America and the aid. Isn't it?

I would still prefer Democratic set up in the future as we have never let the Democratic government work so far... Let the change come through the political process and not by the force of power.

WIth the type of politicians we have it is not not possible unless:

one day all the politicians are found dead along with their off-springs who are in the process of being advertised as the next version of the leaders for the next version of democracy - leaders 2.0 for democracy 2.0 -

or

We have a Pakistani version of the Orange Revolution.

 

[Black Widow]

Sir,
But the politicians are also blessed with America and the aid. Isn't it?

In democracy there exist opposition,Judiciary,Press which oppose government. Consider yesterday scenario when Judiciary outposted Gilani. Can you believe it can happen in Martial law??? No.. Today all hue and cry on drone strike, can it happen in martial law???

Mush sold many Pakistani girl and boys to CIA, any one objected??? Mushy Let CIA kill many Pakistani , did you cried that time??? While in DAVIS case media, public made lot of scene...

From Iskandar Mirza to Commando Musharraf all were lapdog of America, The new general will do the same.... Today at least you have IK and Jamatis who are anti Drone (American)...

Do you want this???

 

[asad71]

1." Khalq e Khoda,Takht e Padshah, Huqumat e Sipahi" was the cry ringing out of Delhi when the freedom-loving soldiers of Hindustan had gathered in front of the Red Fort in allegiance to Emperor Bahadur Shah. Therein can be found the true fountain of laws for the peoples of SA. All laws must evolve from the God-head. SA peoples are hghly spiritual and religion is very important for them. Yes, Badsha is no more there, but an alternative has to be found. For the Muslims it is easy to find that if the requisite qualifications for an Imam or Amir are implemented. In our traditional system of centuries the military is not divorced from the affairs of state. The Sipahi has an integral and vital role to play in the state besides defending the physical borders of the state.

2. Why do we keep forgetting that we had laws, administrative system, a judiciary and all paraphernalia of a thriving state before the Firingi arrived? Did we not see time and again our kings and powerful men summoned before the Qazi to answer a complaint?

3. We are neither Chstian nor Western that we should try and try and try to emulate the Western Christian Civilization's values, laws, ideologies and traditions. Are we English that we should adopt Common English Law? Did we never have any civilization of ours with laws?

 

[Desert Fox]

ENOUGH with DEMOCRAZY, WELLCOME MARTIAL LAW!
Dear friends,
Its about time, we should stop wasting our emotions, our taxes, our lives to this stupid , shamefull, croupted , lawlessnes kind of DEMOCRAZY!
Instead , we should wellcome local bodies Made ,civil-army basseD , revolutionized martail-law.
Because in 64 years of the , history of pakistan, it was our , 3 patriotic genrls who devloped our country , our politicians allways brought us, shame.
Don't troll, & don't let anyone troll!
Compare & discuss the subject, with power to listen others!
Good luck , & thanks!

Don't be ashamed of this "democrazy", remember, leaders are the reflection of the people. Fix yourselves and get your act together and you'll get better leaders.

 

[Leader]

1." Khalq e Khoda,Takht e Padshah, Huqumat e Sipahi" was the cry ringing out of Delhi when the freedom-loving soldiers of Hindustan had gathered in front of the Red Fort in allegiance to Emperor Bahadur Shah. Therein can be found the true fountain of laws for the peoples of SA. All laws must evolve from the God-head. SA peoples are hghly spiritual and religion is very important for them. Yes, Badsha is no more there, but an alternative has to be found. For the Muslims it is easy to find that if the requisite qualifications for an Imam or Amir are implemented. In our traditional system of centuries the military is not divorced from the affairs of state. The Sipahi has an integral and vital role to play in the state besides defending the physical borders of the state.

2. Why do we keep forgetting that we had laws, administrative system, a judiciary and all paraphernalia of a thriving state before the Firingi arrived? Did we not see time and again our kings and powerful men summoned before the Qazi to answer a complaint?

3. We are neither Chstian nor Western that we should try and try and try to emulate the Western Christian Civilization's values, laws, ideologies and traditions. Are we English that we should adopt Common English Law? Did we never have any civilization of ours with laws?

But Sir do we have that sort of intellectual base to revive our local systems? Those who carry our traditions, our ideologies, our values or our laws- hardly accept anything else what is taught to them, are they willing to revive or reform and reach out to general populace to introduce what they have got to offer, and is better than what the English system is?

secondly Language plays the most important role- as long as English is our language of ideas- it will have its impact or better to add Persian/Arabic as must learn language. so that we are a better and moderate fusion of the two civilizations...


As for the military is concern it should stay out of our mess, the better- it is least on level of respect nowadays- the other day Naval Chief's nephews were beaten by the violent mob in Sheikhupura- they knew who they were- and they specifically targeted their car on the road- pulled them out and beat the shitt out of them- they were on the military car- gunman was also beaten and his weapon stolen... I think it was not reported- but this happened for sure as we witnessed them in hospital and the heavy naval presence...

 

[A.Muqeet khan]

oh marshal law will come but not now trust me it will come but this is not the right time

 

[batmannow]

The worst dictatorship is better than the best democracy.
Once I was Listening to Javed Chaudhry's show "kal Tak" which is broadcasted on Express News. In that show he was telling about some phone calls he listened in which People were Telling him about Problems they were facing due to current government. He also mentioned same calls in his Article published with the name of "zero point". Today I read the Portion of article in which he is*interpreting those calls, one of the Call I liked and now i am sharing with you Forced Javed Chaudhry to say that " The worst dictatorship is better than Democracy"
Here is the Story of that Call he received,

A call I received from mansehra, Khalid Mehmood said he was a Poor Carpenter, however *his business was booming and prosperity knocked at his door during Pervez Musharraf Days. Good food to eat and his children Admitted to good schools. "Then I was told that Musharraf is a dictator, an American agent and against Islam and Pakistan so I also shouted "Go Musharraf Go". with other people. Then Democratic government came followed by slump and poverty.No money to pay the school Fees or for petrol or utility bills. Please keep your democracy and give me back my dictatorship.

That's why, we pakistanis can't accept, this democrazy in which , we can't fed even our. Childerns, if you like , plz go and live some where, where you can enjoy your dam democrazy, good luck!
But its enough, for pakistan!

 

[asad71]

1." Khalq e Khoda,Takht e Padshah, Huqumat e Sipahi"

Sorry, double post.