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Use could use many other countries bordering Afghanistan such as Tajikistan, Azebaijan, Uzbekistan etc.. and they do for small operations. They come through Pakistan because they also rely on the bravery and professionalism of the Pakistani soldiers which none of the other countries bordering Afghanistan offer.

Let me also give you a lesson in history. In the 1948 War Pakistan was outgunned and out numbered in a ratio of 1:13 against India and 100% of Kashmir was in India before the 1948 War started, well Pakistan captured 21% of it in 1948. In Indian history books it is taught India won the War of 1948, but then I have not seen a victorious army losing territory and declaring victory.

In the 1965 War the ratio was 1:9 and again Pakistan captured another 8% of Kashmir which is in Pakistan today as we discuss. The 1971 War was a proxy war by India over 2 decades by setting up 28 terrorist camps on the East Pakistan borders and training militants. My uncle served in East Pakistan and he use to tell me that Bengalis use to spit on them during patrols through streets or markets. Most of the Pakistan Army did not want to die for people that spit on them.

Also Pakistan Air Force is the only Air Force that did do actual dog fights with The USSR's Red Air Force on the Pakistan Afghanistan Borders during 1979-1988 Afghan War. All western countries always train, practice and play Cold War but none of them actually fought the USSR. Yes with the Grace of Allah we shot down 28 Soviet Aircraft and lost 1 F-16.

Serbs did a lot of genocide in Bosnia and raped thousands of muslim and croatian women, but after US bombaraded them and 8,000 Pakistan Army and 10,000 Iran Army soldiers were deployed in Bosnia then the Serbia did not have the balls to commit their attrocities any more.

If Pakistan felt one day that it has a threat to its existence then we will make sure that we wipe out the enemy, so they cannot regroup and fight another day.
 
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so wherez the mention of borders in your links...n thats old news

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The bill, which was passed unanimously by the US Congress, set several conditions for the aid to Pakistan.

Under the legislation, the secretary of state will have to certify periodically that Pakistan is working to dismantle the illegal nuclear proliferation networks.

The US also has to certify that Pakistan is no longer supporting militant groups.

The aid money will not be directly handed over to Pakistan but will be spent on different development projects through the US embassy in Islamabad.

According to reports, a special unit is being established in the embassy, which will maintain accounts of the aid spent and strictly monitor it.

Recently, the US said it had provided more than $3bn in aid to Pakistan since President Asif Zardari came to power a year ago.

The money was given in "combined security, economic and development assistance", US officials said.

In May this year, the US announced it was sending $110m (£71m) in aid to Pakistan to help it cope with the refugee crisis caused by violence between troops and the Taliban in the north-west.


Wrong, France, Britain and Germany supported Israel's nuclear program. USA nearly sanctioned Israel because it refused to admit its nuclear program. DBG resigned after JFK showed him spy photos showing Israel's nuclear power plant.

A nuclear Israel makes it harder for the USA to control the middle east and protect the arab states (oil!)
i said mini nukes..many in US even say the whole project is for israel..us doesnt need them..
 
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Have you seen the leadership in Pakistan?

Compare its economy to India. Compare its military performace to USA's or Indias.

For economy go see our gdp one of the fastest growing in asia bypassing india.till we ot involved in fukin wot.

About military performance..........hmmmm
5 kills in 1 minute?world record?1:4 soldier to soldier ratio?
Kills against IAF?and indian AF?
Ceasefire requests of india in 48?65?

Pakistan needs some serious work. It has been protected and supported by the USA for quite some time.

:rofl::rofl::rofl: when did tht happen>? while we were under sanction by USA?
We arent israel son.



This is not unique...but without the USA, Pakistan's military would have to look elsewhere for support. Its war with the terrorists relies extensively on US training and weapons.

Not any more.........we dont need USA.
USA needs us in afghanistan.they cant lose there logistics,allies who r fuking taliban on ther side.......ISI etc.
Wat US training?:rofl::rofl:
We asked for UCAVs? we werent given?
We now are close to testing our own UCAV.
Sanction on jets?
We made our own 4th gen JF-17?
Tanks we make our own?
Frigerates?chinese and turkish?
Missile boats?
We make 2 classes of them.
Submarines?
We dont buy US no more.
AWACS?
Sweden and Joint venture with chinese
Now we dont even buy heavy tech prone to US sanction.
 
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The terrorists can be easily taken care off.It's just a matter of time.Compare Pakistan Army's performance in Swat with India Army Performance in J&K.I am sure even YOU would agree that Pakistan performed way better and of course Army just can't switch training to COIN's only.It has to train for conventional war as well. (Which might not happen - Thanks to Nukes) But it is good prepare for the worst scenario.You severely underestimate Pakistan and it's tactical manoeuvrings..Look regardless of your gloomy situation i can tell you this - Pakistan will in fact be a major strategic beneficiary from the Afghan mess whenever it solves.It'll be taken care off.They don't blame ISI for every damn thing for no reason you know.Indian Diplomats, Army etc infiltrated.I think we're doing a pretty damn good job.

u shud check the complete performance of indian army while fighting with infiltrators from pak etc,u will get a change in ur mind.once i was watching on t.v that an army soldier killed 200+ terrorists ,coz his whole family was killed in front of him.he was saying he gets mad wen he see's terr-sts.u can understand wat i want to say.200+ one army men.also u can wish to know watever soldiers u r loosing it's only problem created by urself.
 
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u shud check the complete performance of indian army while fighting with infiltrators from pak etc,u will get a change in ur mind.once i was watching on t.v that an army soldier killed 200+ terrorists ,coz his whole family was killed in front of him.he was saying he gets mad wen he see's terr-sts.u can understand wat i want to say.200+ one army men.also u can wish to know watever soldiers u r loosing it's only problem created by urself.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:All the 100 000 mujahedeen were frm Pakistan?
2= TV:rofl:
3=The man sounds more like a pschypathic criminal...or just a typical joe of indian army makin false claims........as other examples of ur army.
Women who hacked 7 men hahaha
4=BEEP.........USA created taliban to destroy USSR:cheesy:
 
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Have you seen the leadership in Pakistan?

Indeed horrible political leadership, but since we are talking on basis of military our military leadership has been exceptional. Its not just me talking here but even our Indian friends on this forum respect General Kayani.

Compare its economy to India. Compare its military performace to USA's or Indias.

India's population is 1.2 billion people compared to our population of 180 million, obviousally there economy is going to be huge. Compare it on Per Capita Basis, not much of a difference.

Military Performance :D, yes the Americans have been in Afghanistan since 2001 and still fail to control the entire country. More than half the country is run by Taliban and drug lords, heck even some neighbourhoods in Kandahar are controlled by Taliban. Pakistan's Army got serious about this menance before the Swat Operation and look at how much we have achieved, our performance against the Taliban has been much better than the American Side. As far as India is concerned, we are immune to any threat from the Indian Military because they are well aware that any Indian Aggression will be replied with ample force.

Pakistan needs some serious work. It has been protected and supported by the USA for quite some time.

Protected :lol:, from who? Pakistan's problems worsened when the Americans invaded Afghanistan, before our Western Border was peacefull and secure.

This is not unique...but without the USA, Pakistan's military would have to look elsewhere for support. Its war with the terrorists relies extensively on US training and weapons.

Indeed, but your forgetting that this is not the 90's. US is not the only power anymore, if we want high tech weapons we can get it from China. Our war does rely on US weapons because after all they are the ones who started this war. We have proved that we can fight this war on our own by routing out the TTP in Swat and South Waziristan. The Americans have yet to do the same, they havent been serious about this war since the start. When Pakistan Army was pushing the Taliban at the other side of the border, why did the Americans pack up and leave instead of confronting the Taliban?.

P.S. Theres an old saying "When you point a finger at someone, there are three pointing towards you". An Israeli should never mention military aid or protection to anyone, afterall its not our country that relies solely on American aid and protection umbrella ;)
 
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Have you seen the leadership in Pakistan?

Compare its economy to India. Compare its military performace to USA's or Indias.

Pakistan needs some serious work. It has been protected and supported by the USA for quite some time.

This is not unique...but without the USA, Pakistan's military would have to look elsewhere for support. Its war with the terrorists relies extensively on US training and weapons.

ya golani pak leadership isn't that much sincere with pakistan, bt i m sure some day some body wil stand high for pakistan, Usa USA, Usa isn,t God.. And there is always a Musa For a firon.. Hope u understand my pakistani english.lol
 
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ya golani pak leadership isn't that much sincere with pakistan, bt i m sure some day some body wil stand high for pakistan, Usa USA, Usa isn,t God.. And there is always a Musa For a firon.. Hope u understand my pakistani english.lol

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25% of Pakistan's entire military is subsidized by the US. Over 40,000 US troops sit in Afghanistan, protecting the Pakistani mainland and preventing violence from spilling over into your cities.

I wud rather say, american army is working like a tap in Afghanistan, once we clear our cities from the terrorist they open the tap and spill some more terrorist into our cities, they are trying to destabilize Pakistan by any means:smokin:
 
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sorry, but thats hilarious, wats the point advertisement on defense site:rofl::rofl:
 
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@ Golani b
mr first of do some research before posting.ur posts are just crap and rubbish
25% of Pakistan's entire military is subsidized by the US. Over 40,000 US troops sit in Afghanistan, protecting the Pakistani mainland and preventing violence from spilling over into your cities.
let me tell you some thing.if US leave the afghanistan in the morning,peace will be established in the evening.and don't worry about violence spilling over into our cities our ISI is more than enough to take care of that.
USA supported Pakistan during the Bangladesh war in 1971,
biggest joke of 70s
and spent 1+ billion on the anti-soviet resistance of the 70s/80s.
and we back by disintegrating soviets and ending of cold war.
Israel has the military capacity to convert its enemies into a radioactive desert. The US spends more effort trying to contain Israel from destroying its enemies, forcing controlled-cease fires, early retreats...etc...
so do we have.just remember just one thing we r not arabs.and trust me when we gona beat ur *** you people don't find any place to run.
regarding us help.you these were the american satellites who provide the location of anti air guns when you destroy iraqi nuclear reactor.if us draw hand from your head today tomorrow there will be no israel.
 
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