Electricity should be sold at a different price in Lahore and Peshawar: Taimur Khan Jhagra

[muhammadhafeezmalik]

What do you mean PRODUCED BY FEDERAL GOVT??
federal govt don't extend beyond islamabad
Per 1973 consitution hydropower wasn't a federal matter

Pakistan Steel is in Sindh, Airports are located in different provinces, but Federal Government has the ownership. Employees of WAPDA are being paid by FG, wear & tear costs of power plants and dams is being paid by FG.

 

[ziaulislam]

Pakistan Steel is in Sindh, Airports are located in different provinces, but Federal Government has the ownership. Employees of WAPDA are being paid by FG, wear & tear costs of power plants and dams is being paid by FG.

Pakistan steal is factory not a natural resource.

The argument for not providing natural resources to provinces for central PUNAJB is that we want equal prices..
But that argument is ignored when it comes to important things like food

So KP and balcihistan is going to subsidize fuel for punjab but punjab won't subsidize food for kp/balochis

Then you cry we people in these provinces are crying

And hey poverty is extreme in these areas for reason..

I know common sense laws don't work in Pakistan but people still have Brains you know..we still share same human DNA ..


Wear & tear cost and salary... seriously..what's next in your arguments

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What jahgra is saying in nutshell is this

"Pakistan is anomaly in the world, where certain people are at huge disadvantage"

Balochs will be well off with their 2BCF of gas ... pretty sure the wear and tear cost and salary won't be draw back for them

It seems federation isn't happy with 50% pay cutt and won't more

 

[muhammadhafeezmalik]

Pakistan steal is factory not a natural resource.

The argument for not providing natural resources to provinces for central PUNAJB is that we want equal prices..
But that argument is ignored when it comes to important things like food

So KP and balcihistan is going to subsidize fuel for punjab but punjab won't subsidize food for kp/balochis

Then you cry we people in these provinces are crying

And hey poverty is extreme in these areas for reason..

I know common sense laws don't work in Pakistan but people still have Brains you know..we still share same human DNA ..


Wear & tear cost and salary... seriously..what's next in your arguments

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What jahgra is saying in nutshell is this

"Pakistan is anomaly in the world, where certain people are at huge disadvantage"

Balochs will be well off with their 2BCF of gas ... pretty sure the wear and tear cost and salary won't be draw back for them

It seems federation isn't happy with 50% pay cutt and won't more

Power plant is also a factory, we give water charges to KP for using the water, KP gives input costs to Punjab farmers?? Punjab provides subsidised food to KP through G2G, PASSCO and TCP, as per their requirement, it is not fault of Punjab that KP smuggle that food to Afghanistan, if Afghanistan need wheat they can import from other countries on international prices.

 

[muhammadhafeezmalik]

Caretakers announce plan to tackle power theft, low recoveries

IMF response to relief proposal expected in a day or two; minister suggests special courts, police stations to check theft.

www.dawn.com

 

[M. Sarmad]

Why don't we use Pakistanis logic and make food prices similar in Lahore and Peshawar??or Lahore in balochistan

Wheat should be priced similar as we want power to price similar ? No???

If no why not??

Bro, You need to get your facts straight before going overboard on the anti-Punjab vibe.

In other parts of the country including Balochistan, people actually get wheat at lower subsidized prices than in Punjab, which is another example of how Punjab faces discrimination.

When it comes to the 18th amendment, unlike other provinces, we don't have ownership of what we produce because the federation and other provinces refuse to consider 'Agricultural crops' (including wheat) as 'natural resources.'

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

Anyone from hazarat will say the same
Why allow dam and destroy a huge city if there are several other alternatives
When there is zero benefit to that province since dam all royalties will go to punjab but catchment area will be in KP


Nothing is complicated it all about each one looking for their interests

Modify the way how royalties are paid and you will see KP saying yes

Can you satisfy SINDH? Well good luck with that


Because federal govt doesn't want hand it over

Clearly ex finance min of KP said hand over power to us..federal govt said no way..we can't handle over 6000mw of hydro power to you guys

Instead of justifying electricity theft which affect every paying consumer including majority in Hazara who pay their bills. No one in Hazarajat is in favour of paying more bills and allow tribals to steal electricity.

Ex finance finance is typical pashtunist who justify every crime by his tribal kin. From smuggling to kidnapping, everything is justified by these pashtunist nationalists. PTI is biggest sponsor and well wisher of TTP terrorism. No pashtun can do anything wrong, all criminal activities have their justification ready.

 

[HAIDER]

Transmission lines are also being run on IPP mode, the companies which lay the transmission lines charge capacity charges, Terbella power station would produce only 500MW in winters but we have to pay capacity charges for 4500MW capacity charges. Wil KP allowed us to shift these idle capacity payment to the province too??

Tarbella is a Federal project, under the Water and Power division, Govt of Pakistan.

 

[muhammadhafeezmalik]

Tarbella is a Federal project, under the Water and Power division, Govt of Pakistan.

For payment of dues it is federal project, for receiving profit it is property of KP.

 

[ziaulislam]

Instead of justifying electricity theft which affect every paying consumer including majority in Hazara who pay their bills. No one in Hazarajat is in favour of paying more bills and allow tribals to steal electricity.

Ex finance finance is typical pashtunist who justify every crime by his tribal kin. From smuggling to kidnapping, everything is justified by these pashtunist nationalists. PTI is biggest sponsor and well wisher of TTP terrorism. No pashtun can do anything wrong, all criminal activities have their justification ready.

Theft was snevwr discussed because that is under federal control
The discussion was illegal control of power sector by federal govt

Solution is easy hand over distribution center to provinces
How can they fix stealing in punjab or KP if they don't control it

PS

Per Pakistanis logic (only people from central punjab) everything that happens in west is wrong..i.e provinces having control on resources where as federation takes taxes

Because it won't equal treatment but then when it comes to equal treatment with respect to natural resources in punjab(namely food) it's not okay

 

[muhammadhafeezmalik]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1699418320678613402

Theft was snevwr discussed because that is under federal control
The discussion was illegal control of power sector by federal govt

Solution is easy hand over distribution center to provinces
How can they fix stealing in punjab or KP if they don't control it

PS

Per Pakistanis logic (only people from central punjab) everything that happens in west is wrong..i.e provinces having control on resources where as federation takes taxes

Because it won't equal treatment but then when it comes to equal treatment with respect to natural resources in punjab(namely food) it's not okay

PMLN is willing to handover PESCO to KP from 2013, it was PTI government of KP who refused the offer by laying unrealistic conditions.

PM Nawaz approves move to hand PESCO over to K-P govt | The Express Tribune

K-P Chief Minister welcomes move but demands control over K-P's power generation setup too.

tribune.com.pk

PESCO transfer: K-P govt unimpressed with centre’s offer | The Express Tribune

Farman rejects handover in current state, CM welcomes the opportunity.

tribune.com.pk

K-P declines to take charge of PESCO | The Express Tribune

K-P govt urged federation to take steps for provincialisation of DISCOs

tribune.com.pk

 

[muhammadhafeezmalik]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1699760174444187939

 

[ziaulislam]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1699760174444187939

Let open a new thread about electricity stealing
Because clearly jhagara sahab and this thread is about something else
Or rename the thread

 

[muhammadhafeezmalik]

Let open a new thread about electricity stealing
Because clearly jhagara sahab and this thread is about something else
Or rename the thread

Read the first comment.

 

[HAIDER]

For payment of dues it is federal project, for receiving profit it is property of KP.

its gift of Nawaz and Zardari ... 17th and 18th amendment has killed the fabric of this country.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

Theft was snevwr discussed because that is under federal control
The discussion was illegal control of power sector by federal govt

Solution is easy hand over distribution center to provinces
How can they fix stealing in punjab or KP if they don't control it

PS

Per Pakistanis logic (only people from central punjab) everything that happens in west is wrong..i.e provinces having control on resources where as federation takes taxes

Because it won't equal treatment but then when it comes to equal treatment with respect to natural resources in punjab(namely food) it's not okay

You have gall to call out fair distribution when KP and Balochistan get huge amount of NFC award just on basis of population. Especially when 95% of GDP and revenue are generated by punjab and karachi.

KP and Balochistan share in GDP and revenue generation, 5%. Share in taxes collected through out Pakistan. 25%.

See why justifying theft just because of dam which was build by Punjab and Karachi money doesn't make one bit of sense. koi sharam hoti hai koi haya hoti hai