Egyptian Armed Forces

[Dino R.]

I see 1 issue, it's a very short range radar in both the MIG 29M2 and the AESA of the 35 compared to what radars can be put in the SU 30 and SU 35 ( 400 KM range ), other then that it's a fast aircraft with a lot of hardpoints now.

Well, the Zhuk-AE has a max detection range of 130 in air to air more and up to 200 in air to ground mode which is plenty believe me, longer ranges are useful with bigger rcs (radar cross-section) targets like huge bombers and such, no threat from these to Egypt though. It is also a very capable radar when it comes to operating parameters and capabilities, for example it operates in conjunction with two optronic target acquisition and identification systems, those systems enable the fighter to escape detection by the enemy and allows for night operations and make it possible to hit visible and BVR targets, those systems have always given the edge to western fighters, or so claimed for years, also the number of targets tracked, engaged,...etc. So it is more than enough for what the EAF needs, it is having such technology that matters. I always wanted to see the Su-35 in the EAF, and I believe they might procure some of those in the future. The threats that Egypt is facing now a days call for a longer range fighter like the Su-35, so we might see some of those in the EAF's inventory some time in the near future.

I thought the Mig-35 had changes in its air frame compared to that of the 29 or did the Russians decide against it?

@vostok will know.

Not to the Mig-29 M\M2 as far as I'm aware, specs are almost identical. I mean its a more modular design and depends what the EAF will want on their jets, but what makes a Mig-35 a Mig-35 is the AESA radar.

 

[mahatir]

The combat radius of the Mig-35 is 1000 km, the distance (one way) from the very south of Egypt to the dam site is over 2000 km, so without multiple refueling in mid-air such mission is impossible, and note that Egypt doesn't have any areal tankers. That combat radius is also without any ordinance on the Mig-35, a full combat load will decrease that number substantially. Just wanted to clear that for everyone

Basha from Aswan Dam to Assosa region in Ethiopia where they are building their Dam its 1500 Km flight distance which is where central Ethiopia is located , northern Ethiopia could be bombed at even lower distance.

1558 Km - Flight distance between Aswan Dam and Assosa

If Egypt has airport in Halayeb this distance would fall to about 1200 KM .

Egyptian An-74 Coaler could be changed to fuel tanker or simply buying from Russia .

Egypt will have to have refueling capacity and introducing it into its Air-force doctrine is a must , this would be a diterent against upstream countries , especially Ethiopia , they are the ones causing most the trouble.

Egypt will also have to develop mid-range cruise missiles , it will help a lot in such situations .

If Egypt could force Sudan to come under its influence then threatening Ethiopia would be much easier but that would require a more aggressive foreign policy focused on Sudan .

Well, the Zhuk-AE has a max detection range of 130 in air to air more and up to 200 in air to ground mode which is plenty believe me, longer ranges are useful with bigger rcs (radar cross-section) targets like huge bombers and such, no threat from these to Egypt though. It is also a very capable radar when it comes to operating parameters and capabilities, for example it operates in conjunction with two optronic target acquisition and identification systems, those systems enable the fighter to escape detection by the enemy and allows for night operations and make it possible to hit visible and BVR targets, those systems have always given the edge to western fighters, or so claimed for years, also the number of targets tracked, engaged,...etc. So it is more than enough for what the EAF needs, it is having such technology that matters. I always wanted to see the Su-35 in the EAF, and I believe they might procure some of those in the future. The threats that Egypt is facing now a days call for a longer range fighter like the Su-35, so we might see some of those in the EAF's inventory some time in the near future.


Not to the Mig-29 M\M2 as far as I'm aware, specs are almost identical. I mean its a more modular design and depends what the EAF will want on their jets, but what makes a Mig-35 a Mig-35 is the AESA radar.

Well, the Zhuk-AE has a max detection range of 130 in air to air more and up to 200 in air to ground mode which is plenty believe me, longer ranges are useful with bigger rcs (radar cross-section) targets like huge bombers and such, no threat from these to Egypt though. It is also a very capable radar when it comes to operating parameters and capabilities, for example it operates in conjunction with two optronic target acquisition and identification systems, those systems enable the fighter to escape detection by the enemy and allows for night operations and make it possible to hit visible and BVR targets, those systems have always given the edge to western fighters, or so claimed for years, also the number of targets tracked, engaged,...etc. So it is more than enough for what the EAF needs, it is having such technology that matters. I always wanted to see the Su-35 in the EAF, and I believe they might procure some of those in the future. The threats that Egypt is facing now a days call for a longer range fighter like the Su-35, so we might see some of those in the EAF's inventory some time in the near future.


Not to the Mig-29 M\M2 as far as I'm aware, specs are almost identical. I mean its a more modular design and depends what the EAF will want on their jets, but what makes a Mig-35 a Mig-35 is the AESA radar.

I do not think Russia would accept selling SU-35 , anyway why did not Egypt go for SU-30 , it has combact radius 1500 KM pretty much covers distance to major Dams that threaten Egypt water supply .

SU-30 already in service with Algeria , Indonesia and other third world countries.

 

[Dino R.]

Basha from Aswan Dam to Assosa region in Ethiopia where they are building their Dam its 1500 Km flight distance which is where central Ethiopia is located , northern Ethiopia could be bombed at even lower distance.

1558 Km - Flight distance between Aswan Dam and Assosa

If Egypt has airport in Halayeb this distance would fall to about 1200 KM .

Egyptian An-74 Coaler could be changed to fuel tanker or simply buying from Russia .

Egypt will have to have refueling capacity and introducing it into its Air-force doctrine is a must , this would be a diterent against upstream countries , especially Ethiopia , they are the ones causing most the trouble.

Egypt will also have to develop mid-range cruise missiles , it will help a lot in such situations .

If Egypt could force Sudan to come under its influence then threatening Ethiopia would be much easier but that would require a more aggressive foreign policy focused on Sudan .

The distance is more than 1200 km, BASHA!!! Get your numbers right! Besides hitting a dam requires a very heavy combat load and that will furthur reduce the range!!! You don't hit a dam with air-to-air missiles!!! I'm well aware of the options Egypt has for tankers and refueling kits that can be fitted, doesn't change the fact that up till now Egypt DOESN'T HAVE ANY!!!!

 

[mahatir]

The distance is more than 1200 km, BASHA!!! Get your numbers right! Besides hitting a dam requires a very heavy combat load and that will furthur reduce the range!!! You don't hit a dam with air-to-air missiles!!! I'm well aware of the options Egypt has for tankers and refueling kits that can be fitted, doesn't change the fact that up till now Egypt DOESN'T HAVE ANY!!!!

I know Man this is why I am talking about Refueling and I am not saying they will strike tomorrow , this is Just a diterent that should be built over the next 10 years .

 

[Dino R.]

Basha from Aswan Dam to Assosa region in Ethiopia where they are building their Dam its 1500 Km flight distance which is where central Ethiopia is located , northern Ethiopia could be bombed at even lower distance.

1558 Km - Flight distance between Aswan Dam and Assosa

If Egypt has airport in Halayeb this distance would fall to about 1200 KM .

Egyptian An-74 Coaler could be changed to fuel tanker or simply buying from Russia .

Egypt will have to have refueling capacity and introducing it into its Air-force doctrine is a must , this would be a diterent against upstream countries , especially Ethiopia , they are the ones causing most the trouble.

Egypt will also have to develop mid-range cruise missiles , it will help a lot in such situations .

If Egypt could force Sudan to come under its influence then threatening Ethiopia would be much easier but that would require a more aggressive foreign policy focused on Sudan .




I do not think Russia would accept selling SU-35 , anyway why did not Egypt go for SU-30 , it has combact radius 1500 KM pretty much covers distance to major Dams that threaten Egypt water supply .

SU-30 already in service with Algeria , Indonesia and other third world countries.

Well, from what I hear, Russia will give Egypt the Zhuk-AE AESA radar, so there is no problem there, and the Radar and avionics is the most important technology any combat jet exporter worries about, cause armament can be given in the future or withheld, no major issues there. Now I think there is a good possibility Egypt will get the Su-35, hell, they might even be getting some at the same time as the Mig-35, you are right, they need it for Ethiopia, but they might be keeping it under wraps, I don't know. I think Egypt needs a few tankers too regardless, but there are always the Saudi tankers, they'll help if really needed, and I think Egypt MUST get tankers ASAP and they might be getting some in the same deal, but again, it won't be something that the Egyptians or the Russians will announce cause of secrecy and element of surprise if they want to hit the Ethiopian dam.

I know Man this is why I am talking about Refueling and I am not saying they will strike tomorrow , this is Just a diterent that should be built over the next 10 years .

They should, and ASAP too, and I think they are actually, and I do believe they will do something about it very soon after the upcoming presidential elections in Egypt, it'll be a great thing to get the Egyptians to put their political differences aside, and it will, when it comes to national security, for Egyptians that comes first.

 

[mahatir]

The distance is more than 1200 km, BASHA!!! Get your numbers right! Besides hitting a dam requires a very heavy combat load and that will furthur reduce the range!!! You don't hit a dam with air-to-air missiles!!! I'm well aware of the options Egypt has for tankers and refueling kits that can be fitted, doesn't change the fact that up till now Egypt DOESN'T HAVE ANY!!!!

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Well, from what I hear, Russia will give Egypt the Zhuk-AE AESA radar, so there is no problem there, and the Radar and avionics is the most important technology any combat jet exporter worries about, cause armament can be given in the future or withheld, no major issues there. Now I think there is a good possibility Egypt will get the Su-35, hell, they might even be getting some at the same time as the Mig-35, you are right, they need it for Ethiopia, but they might be keeping it under wraps, I don't know. I think Egypt needs a few tankers too regardless, but there are always the Saudi tankers, they'll help if really needed, and I think Egypt MUST get tankers ASAP and they might be getting some in the same deal, but again, it won't be something that the Egyptians or the Russians will announce cause of secrecy and element of surprise if they want to hit the Ethiopian dam.

Ethiopia currently has problems funding the Dam , but I am saying this capacity is not for this specific Dam but for Future Dams and to also threat the dogs running Sudan .

Well, from what I hear, Russia will give Egypt the Zhuk-AE AESA radar, so there is no problem there, and the Radar and avionics is the most important technology any combat jet exporter worries about, cause armament can be given in the future or withheld, no major issues there. Now I think there is a good possibility Egypt will get the Su-35, hell, they might even be getting some at the same time as the Mig-35, you are right, they need it for Ethiopia, but they might be keeping it under wraps, I don't know. I think Egypt needs a few tankers too regardless, but there are always the Saudi tankers, they'll help if really needed, and I think Egypt MUST get tankers ASAP and they might be getting some in the same deal, but again, it won't be something that the Egyptians or the Russians will announce cause of secrecy and element of surprise if they want to hit the Ethiopian dam.



They should, and ASAP too, and I think they are actually, and I do believe they will do something about it very soon after the upcoming presidential elections in Egypt, it'll be a great thing to get the Egyptians to put their political differences aside, and it will, when it comes to national security, for Egyptians that comes first.

The recent Satelight Egyp-Sat2 will help Egypt in monitoring Dam activity in upstream countries , If I am not wrong it has resolution of 1 meter , correct me if I am wrong , if this is true then that is something big .

you can now monitor MB dogs in Sudan and Libya in addition to dam activity in Ethiopia .

 

[HRK]

Egypt Expects Apache Delivery in Two Weeks

DUBAI — The Egyptian military is expected to receive delivery of 10 AH-64D Block II Apache Longbow helicopters within the coming two weeks, according to Egyptian military sources.

The expected delivery of the assault helicopters comes after an almost five-year wait for the Egyptian military and just in time to boost its counterinsurgency operations in Sinai.

Retired Egyptian Air Defence Maj. Gen. Mahmoud Morsi confirmed the delivery to Defense News, stating that shipping procedures to transfer the helicopters have already begun.

“I can confirm that the helicopters are ready for delivery and it will not be before a week,” said the strategic researcher at Nasser Military Academy’s center for strategic studies.

A request handed to the US Congress on May 22, 2009, from the Egyptian government sought 12 Apaches with equipment, parts, training and support for an estimated $820 million.

According to the US Defense Security Cooperation Agency, the request included 27 T700-GE-701D engines, 36 Modernized Targeting Acquisition and Designation Systems/Pilot Night Vision Sensors, 28 M299 Hellfire Longbow missile launchers, 14 AN/ALQ-144(V)3 infrared jammers, and 14 AN/APR-39B(V)2 radar signal detecting sets.

The prime contractors are Boeing, General Electric and Lockheed Martin Missiles and Fire Control.

The main reason for the delay, said Morsi, was the suspension of US military aid to Egypt in the aftermath of the ousting of Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi during a popular uprising in July 2013.

“The delay was due to the military aid being stopped by the US,” he said. “According to the aid agreement, the Egyptian government does not receive any cash for military purchases but the US government directly pays contractors to provide the equipment.

“President [Barack] Obama resumed the aid and the helicopters will be the first items to be delivered,” Morsi added.

According to State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki, US Secretary of State John Kerry informed Egypt’s foreign minister, Nabil Fahmy, of the decision in a telephone call, crediting the Egyptian government with sustaining its strategic relationship with the United States and fulfilling its obligations to Israel.

According to the Pentagon, the president’s decision to deliver the Apaches was in support of Egypt’s counterterrorism operations in the Sinai.

“This will boost our operations in Sinai due to the bad weather conditions that we have been experiencing and technical repairs the Air Force has to go through,” Morsi said. “The Air Force was involved in the operations and the speedy delivery will increase our force’s capabilities in Sinai,” he said

 

[The SC]

There should be a solution to this Dam in Ethiopia, that takes into account both the interests of Egypt and Ethiopia, a technical solution at that, but not in the hands of Ethiopia alone, it should rather have this control in the hands of Egypt, the more proven and more stable country at all levels. Otherwise it will provoke a bleeding war for one of the poorest countries on earth against Egypt who already suffers from some financial constraints, all this to the benefit of some hypocrites playing Sun Tzu's theory of war on Egypt.
A war between the two will just cause more sufferings; to the Ethiopians who, like the whole world knows, suffered more than anyone else of drought and famine, and Egypt that has a big population and had the Nile as its main economic artery for thousands of years. but I guess someone out there does not give the slightest damn about both and is (are ) pursuing its own agendas while working on the weaknesses of both countries.
If one looks a bit further, he'll find that this exploitation of weaknesses constitutes a big factor being played with in the whole middle east (Shia, Sunni, and now Takfiri, AlQaeda, Arabs, Persians, etc). So, by logic, the people behind the Dam affair in Ethiopia and the ones stirring fire in the middle east as a whole must be the same entities.

I know about their AESA radars, I don't know buddy, I'm just having a hard time buying it!!! I sounds ligit, looks ligit, but I just can't buy it for some reason!!!! Radar development especially AESA radars require very advanced technologies that Iran simply doesn't have! I dunno! But it sounds like the real deal! If it is, that is good for them! Hell man! Russia and China only made significant steps in AESA technology not so long ago!! And here comes little Iran with their own!! I dunno

What about submarines, do you have any Idea where are they at the moment. We've heard before, that Egypt was interested in the Daulphin like subs or the type 214, at least the type 209 from germany. what about some Kilos 686 or chinese Qing class? any Idea ?

 

[Dino R.]

There should be a solution to this Dam in Ethiopia, that takes into account both the interests of Egypt and Ethiopia, a technical solution at that, but not in the hands of Ethiopia alone, it should rather have this control in the hands of Egypt, the more proven and more stable country at all levels. Otherwise it will provoke a bleeding war for one of the poorest countries on earth against Egypt who already suffers from some financial constraints, all this to the benefit of some hypocrites playing Sun Tzu's theory of war on Egypt.
A war between the two will just cause more sufferings; to the Ethiopians who, like the whole world knows, suffered more than anyone else of drought and famine, and Egypt that has a big population and had the Nile as its main economic artery for thousands of years. but I guess someone out there does not give the slightest damn about both and is (are ) pursuing its own agendas while working on the weaknesses of both countries.
If one looks a bit further, he'll find that this exploitation of weaknesses constitutes a big factor being played with in the whole middle east (Shia, Sunni, and now Takfiri, AlQaeda, Arabs, Persians, etc). So, by logic, the people behind the Dam affair in Ethiopia and the ones stirring fire in the middle east as a whole must be the same entities.


What about submarines, do you have any Idea where are they at the moment. We've heard before, that Egypt was interested in the Daulphin like subs or the type 214, at least the type 209 from germany. what about some Kilos 686 or chinese Qing class? any Idea ?

Well about the dam, I understand Ethiopia's need for it and the reasons behind it, but the capacity of that dam and the reservoir lake behind it is the issue that Egypt is having with Ethiopia. The thing is that the issue is the idea of the dam itself, if Egypt allows it the way it is, then it will open the door for other Nile-basin countries to take similar projects and that would be disastrous for Egypt, plus if the dam is built already it will constitute a massive security hazard for Egypt, not only cause Ethiopia will have Egypt by its balls (They will control the amount of water passing through to Egypt and Sudan) but the dam itself has to be protected, before to attack Egypt you had to attack the Aswan High-Dam, inside Egyptian territory, which is well protected and a sturdy construction, but the Ethiopian dam is a much weaker construction and can't be protected by Egypt and its defensive resources, so in a future conflict with anyone against Egypt that dam is a massive problem, hitting it (and keep in mind its safety coefficient is only a 1/3 of the Aswan dam, and unprotected) will flood all of Sudan and the water flow will either bring down the Aswan dam completely or Egypt has to open the Aswan dam and flood all of Egypt's agricultural lands, and in a country of 90+ million people and very limited resources you can just imagine!!! I know and totally understand why Ethiopia needs and is building that dam, but unfortunately it is one of those situations were its us against them, and being Egyptian I'm inclined to take the Egyptian side lol. Its a matter of survival and national security for Egypt, and frankly Egypt will have to do something about that dam, no matter what the consequences are and no matter who we piss-off! It is no wonder that Israel has been backing up that dam project since the 1980s, and the Ethiopians tried that project many times before in the past but Egypt always blocked it, but because of the problems Egypt been having in the last few years Ethiopia took advantage and got the project up and running, as they should but bottom line Egypt can't and won't allow that, and Ethiopia is no match for Egypt so it is a conflict that will happen, its just a question of when!

As for the submarines, my naval knowledge is my weakest, but what I know is that Egypt needs new submarines, they only have few Chinese upgraded copies of old Soviet Romeo-class subs, and I know Egypt was just about to buy some German dolphin subs but Israel blocked it and they bought those subs from Germany instead!!! But yea the Egyptian Navy needs modern air-independent propulsion, and with the problems in Ethiopia launching SLCM (Sub launched Cruise Missiles) from such subs at that dam won't be a bad idea either! So new subs are overdue in the Egyptian navy.

 

[The SC]

Well about the dam, I understand Ethiopia's need for it and the reasons behind it, but the capacity of that dam and the reservoir lake behind it is the issue that Egypt is having with Ethiopia. The thing is that the issue is the idea of the dam itself, if Egypt allows it the way it is, then it will open the door for other Nile-basin countries to take similar projects and that would be disastrous for Egypt, plus if the dam is built already it will constitute a massive security hazard for Egypt, not only cause Ethiopia will have Egypt by its balls (They will control the amount of water passing through to Egypt and Sudan) but the dam itself has to be protected, before to attack Egypt you had to attack the Aswan High-Dam, inside Egyptian territory, which is well protected and a sturdy construction, but the Ethiopian dam is a much weaker construction and can't be protected by Egypt and its defensive resources, so in a future conflict with anyone against Egypt that dam is a massive problem, hitting it (and keep in mind its safety coefficient is only a 1/3 of the Aswan dam, and unprotected) will flood all of Sudan and the water flow will either bring down the Aswan dam completely or Egypt has to open the Aswan dam and flood all of Egypt's agricultural lands, and in a country of 90+ million people and very limited resources you can just imagine!!! I know and totally understand why Ethiopia needs and is building that dam, but unfortunately it is one of those situations were its us against them, and being Egyptian I'm inclined to take the Egyptian side lol. Its a matter of survival and national security for Egypt, and frankly Egypt will have to do something about that dam, no matter what the consequences are and no matter who we piss-off! It is no wonder that Israel has been backing up that dam project since the 1980s, and the Ethiopians tried that project many times before in the past but Egypt always blocked it, but because of the problems Egypt been having in the last few years Ethiopia took advantage and got the project up and running, as they should but bottom line Egypt can't and won't allow that, and Ethiopia is no match for Egypt so it is a conflict that will happen, its just a question of when!

As for the submarines, my naval knowledge is my weakest, but what I know is that Egypt needs new submarines, they only have few Chinese upgraded copies of old Soviet Romeo-class subs, and I know Egypt was just about to buy some German dolphin subs but Israel blocked it and they bought those subs from Germany instead!!! But yea the Egyptian Navy needs modern air-independent propulsion, and with the problems in Ethiopia launching SLCM (Sub launched Cruise Missiles) from such subs at that dam won't be a bad idea either! So new subs are overdue in the Egyptian navy.

Yes , that is more of an existential threat than anything Israel can come up with. Like I told you before, I saw the Israeli hand in that Dam project as soon as I've heard about it, just putting 1+1=2, Fellashas, now Israelis, mostly in the army, and Ethiopia their native land plus the Israeli political inclinations pointed the suspicion towards them.
Now in this case, it is an extremely dangerous move on the part of Ethiopia, but it is Really a political agenda of Israel and Some Europeans or to be bold some Judeo-Christian coalition.
The more troubling news were from some Europeans or Americans who just said that those are natural resources, and since it is inside Ethiopia, so that it has the right to do whatever it wants with them, and added, it is like the Egyptian Oil reserves. I found the comparison childish, and at the same time unprofessional and mostly provocative. For this issue alone, I wish Egypt had Nuclear weapons nothing less, since Ethiopia itself acts as a front (really, since they have noting to lose at all, an attitude of -the least to say- animosity towards Egypt), the big players behind this conspiracy showed their cards, either by naivety or by pure defiance and maybe hatred for Islam (believe it or not, this is their most central thought behind their attacks on Muslim countries, with some eagerness shown and demonstrated, _reminds one of the crusades_, be it Iraq, Afghanistan, lybia, Yemen, overtly or the rest of the Muslim world covertly. This, in my humble opinion is real extremism, although disguised in diplomacy and other mediums.
What is Egypt for me, I'll tell you; when the October war started in 1973, i was a child, as the news broke on TV at midday a few thousand kilometers away, I was begging my parents to send me to fight for Egypt, of course coming from an 9 or 10 years old boy it seemed like a fantasy , but it was all real for me at that time, I really wanted to do it if I had the means on my own, it was that dear to me, since I was already reading the monthly magazine Al Arabi to which my father was subscribed, and we had a full room full of it, it was very enjoyable, and color printed on top of it, it was a thick magazine, with very sound and thorough articles on every Arabic subject ( I was good in Arabic But still struggling with it, it was full of pictures though and most articles I could read, and sometimes I asked my father for some words or sentences or even full articles, and started discussing articles with him when I got a bit older, and covering the whole Arab world in particular and the Muslim world in general. just to tell you that I was aware of what happened in 1967 mostly, 1956, I found out later, but they all involved the same entities that are still threatening Egypt, which is by all means the biggest and most symbolic Arab state.
If I felt like that at that time, believe me, there are millions of Arab youth that will join Egypt anytime in war. but the best thought that comes to me is first we should all help Egypt economically, and put all that youth energy and eagerness in the economic , social and science fields.
There is still another thought. why, is Egypt the symbolic nation of the Arab world does not have the ultimate weapon, because to be frank this Dam like you explained brightly in your post, is worst danger-wise than a nuclear bomb in the hands of any one who wants to submit Egypt and thus the Arab world. So it is an Arab Affair by all means, and they should all get involved...

 

[Falcon29]

Yes , that is more of an existential threat than anything Israel can come up with. Like I told you before, I saw the Israeli hand in that Dam project as soon as I've heard about it, just putting 1+1=2, Fellashas, now Israelis, mostly in the army, and Ethiopia their native land plus the Israeli political inclinations pointed the suspicion towards them.
Now in this case, it is an extremely dangerous move on the part of Ethiopia, but it is Really a political agenda of Israel and Some Europeans or to be bold some Judeo-Christian coalition.
The more troubling news were from some Europeans or Americans who just said that those are natural resources, and tsince it is inside Ethiopia, so that it has the right to do whatever it wants with them, and added, it is like the Egyptian Oil reserves. I found the comparison childish, and at the same time unprofessional and mostly provocative. For this issue alone, I wish Egypt had Nuclear weapons nothing less, since Ethiopia itself acts as a front (really, since they have noting to lose at all, an attitude of -the least to say- animosity towards Egypt), the big players behind this conspiracy showed their cards, either by naivety or by pure defiance and maybe hatred for Islam (believe it or not, this is their most central thought behind their attacks on Muslim countries, with some eagerness shown and demonstrated, _reminds one of the crusades_, be it Iraq, Afghanistan, lybia, Yemen, overtly or the rest of the Muslim world covertly. This, in my humble opinion is real extremism, although disguised in diplomacy and other mediums.
What is Egypt for me, I,ll tell you, when the October war started in 1973, i was a child, as the news broke on TV at midday a few thousand kilometers away, I was begging my parents to send me to fight for Egypt, of course coming from an 9 or 10 years old boy it seemed like a fantasy , but it was all real for me at that time , I really wanted to do it if I had the means on my own, it was that dear to me, since I was already reading the monthly magazine Al Arabi to which my father was subscribed, and we had a full room full of it, it was very enjoyable, and color printed on top of it, it was a thick magazine, with very sound and thorough articles on every Arabic subject ( I was good in Arabic But still struggling with it, but it was full of pictures and most articles I could read, and some times I asked my father for some words or sentences or even full articles, and started discussing articles with him when I got a bit older, and covering the whole Arab world in particular and the Muslim world in general. just to tell you that was aware of what happened in 1967 mostly, 1956, I found out later, but they all involved the same entities that are still threatening Egypt, which is by all means the biggest and most symbolic Arab state.
If I felt like that at that time, believe me, there are millions of Arab youth that will join Egypt anytime in war. but the best thought that comes to me is first we should all help Egypt economically, and put all that youth energy and eagerness in the economic , social and science fields.
There is still another thought. why, is Egypt the symbolic nation of the Arab world does not have the ultimate weapon, because to be frank this Dam like you explained brightly in your post, is worst danger-wise than a nuclear bomb in the hands of any one who wants to submit Egypt and thus the Arab world. So it is an Arab Affair by all means, and they should all get involved...

Couldn't agree any more...just to put this in here though, Egypt did develop at one point a nuclear and ballistic missile program although it didn't get far. You also need to consider Egypt shares a border with Israel so it would invite an joint Israeli/European attack similar to the join efforts in 1956 to attack Egypt. So they're in a difficult situation and only very secret programs can overcome modern day obstacles for acquiring nuclear weapons which I believe we should be doing as soon as possible.

 

[The SC]

Couldn't agree any more...just to put this in here though, Egypt did develop at one point a nuclear and ballistic missile program although it didn't get far. You also need to consider Egypt shares a border with Israel so it would invite an joint Israeli/European attack similar to the join efforts in 1956 to attack Egypt. So they're in a difficult situation and only very secret programs can overcome modern day obstacles for acquiring nuclear weapons which I believe we should be doing as soon as possible.

What borders, the Sinai is almost bigger than Israel, If Egypt moves it Assets to the frontiers(but that is why they are getting the symbolic American Aid of 1.5 billion a year not to do), Israel or any one else on its soil will not have any strategic dept to fight from, And everything they have will be exposed, that is the move Egypt should aim and prepare for, just in case the Ethiopian Dam card comes to threaten Egypt's security and survival.

 

[Amir_Pharaoh]

EAF AT-802u for COIN / CAS Operation

Air Tractor AT-802 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Dino R.]

EAF AT-802u for COIN / CAS Operation

Air Tractor AT-802 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Is that an EAF example?!! Do they have any??

 

[mahatir]

What borders, the Sinai is almost bigger than Israel, If Egypt moves it Assets to the frontiers(but that is why they are getting the symbolic American Aid of 1.5 billion a year not to do), Israel or any one else on its soil will not have any strategic dept to fight from, And everything they have will be exposed, that is the move Egypt should aim and prepare for, just in case the Ethiopian Dam card comes to threaten Egypt's security and survival.

Who will pay most because of the Dam will be Sudan , Egypt could easily destroy this dam if it has a base in Sudan but sadly the MB goverment in Sudan is supporting the project Just to tease Egyptians , Just like how most stupid Islamists hate Egyptians even if it means cooperating with a non-muslim country.