Oublious
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Turkish comments always talk about dreams and the distant future as reality mixed with lies
The Egyptian navy is bigger than the Turkish navy, and its rate of development is better in terms of programs to acquire ships at faster rates and superior to the Turks. There is always thought that whenever the number of units increases, there will be no increase in the density of weapons on the naval unit, but there are many things that children do not take into account
modern war
A joint arms war, that is, simply, the naval units in the Mediterranean will be under the protection of the Egyptian fighters. There is an incident that an Italian revealed to me two days ago that clarifies this matter.
Less than 5 years ago
The Turks sent a gas exploration ship in the Egyptian economic zone to protect one of the Turkish frigates. The Turkish orientations were discovered. An order was issued by the Egyptian Navy to direct 1 Egyptian submarine and 2 Egyptian frigates to head to the Egyptian Zohr field, and orders were issued to the F-16 planes to take off loaded with Egyptian fleeing missiles. To prepare to strike the Turkish frigate and the Turkish exploration ship
While Italy sent a frigate because the Egyptian Zohr field was extracting gas from the Italian company Eni, the Egyptian frigates began issuing warnings to the Turks to withdraw from the area. Entering the Egyptian economic waters again will result in hitting half of the Turkish fleet in the Mediterranean, and the Turks always have any Egyptian threat by force, they take it seriously, whether in the Mediterranean or eastern Libya. Economic privileges because the oil and gas areas are not controlled by the Turks. Simply the Turks know very well that at the time of any battle they flee, and we all remember how the Turks were killed in the Israeli coasts. The Turks did not provoke their killers. They are cheap so far, but they restored relations with Israel without any value for the lives of the Turks, whose price we know well.
We return to Turkey, which has 8 frigates
including 4 Yavuz class (MEKO 200 TN)
Antique, made in 1987
and 4 Barbaros-class frigates
(MEKO 200 TN II)
Produced in 1997, any old designs at the beginning of the nineties as a hull and as main equipment and as a design completely different from the Egyptian frigates MEKO A-200EN, while the Egyptian frigates are a modern, ghostly design that enjoys Samar demands to surpass the best of Tricat and Israel frigates and enemy corvettes, there is a technical difference of 30 years over the other
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Turkish development of four Barbaros-class frigates
The Turks boast a 64 RIM-162 ESSM SAM because it is American
Within the modernization program, the frigates still suffer from outdated design, Turkish equipment, and modest limited developments, such as the SMART-S Mk 2 radar, new ARES-2NC ESM and AREAS-2NC Naval Electronic Attack (EA) Systems, new navigation/LPI radars, PIRI-IRST. suite, and others.
It cannot be compared to the equipment of the Egyptian frigates. Simply, the Turks turned to obtain the lowest economic cost, which also resulted in the humility in the performance of the frigates after the modernization. They cannot face the Egyptian frigates.
The level of German technology, both electronic equipment and a package of armament patterns, the matter is not only air defense missile launchers, there are electronic counter-war systems, jamming and obstruction capabilities, and a modern design for the Egyptian frigates. It is working on an expanded program to provide Naval Laser Weapons System and CIWS to all naval units
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The Turkish development of the Meko frigates, besides its modesty, does not include providing full electric power, for example, for the Naval Laser Weapons System
The Turks chose to develop the antique frigates, Gabya class Perry FFG-7
The shortcomings in their vision of the programs for developing naval units show that Turkish dreams of futuristic frigates are suffering from the reality on the ground that Egypt already owns the first 3 FREMM frigates, and it has contracted for 2 additional frigates and is heading to 1-2 additional ones.
While the German offer MEKO-300 . is being studied
In addition to an Egyptian corvette production program, displacing 2000 tons, in cooperation with Lürsen, by ordering 10 units of it, his first kits will appear at IDEX 2023.
And not Turkish dreams or under construction, whether TF2000-class destroyer
Or even the humble frigate of future performance
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The superiority of the Egyptian navy is clear to the Turks. If they thought that Egypt was not able to make the Turkish navy inhabit the bottom of the Mediterranean, they would not, for a moment, deal violently with it, as they did with Syria, Iraq and Libya.
Normally i would not answer BS post but in this case it is important. Turkey have never send a ship in of Egypt EEZ. It is Egypt that have send ships to Turkish EEZ. You should stop spreading lies, you did cry when we did kick your ships out of our EEZ.
Egypt is better in terms of programs to acquire ships at faster rates and superior to the Turks.
Turkey do not buy ships anymore but desigh and make the weapon. SMART-S radar is a good radar and the dump Egypt Navy want to use it on ther old Olivard Hazar class frigat. How comes that this radar is badly?
Egypt is better in terms of programs to acquire ships at faster rates and superior to the Turks.
-THe latest Egypt nay ship pursue from Italian the FREMM, lets see what kind radar it use. TAHYA class is using PESA technology like the SMART-S radar. The ship have only 16 vls and have displacement of 6000 ton. They do not have EW and ECM, i have looked to the picture nnooo nadah for you. The superior ship is fakin heavy and not armed well in his class. Looks like to me downgraded what you people deserve. O 8 Exocet anti ship missile.
-The Bergimani class ship much heavier and a little bit better equipt. This one do have AESA radar, in this case i have to give you a plus. But againg it have only 16 vls, and have displacement of 6700 ton. I will not speack about EW and ECM suite, because ther is not ship finished. Probably no EW/ECM for you againg ahahah. And againg 8x Exocet missiles.
- 3 Mekoa200 class is well spend, it is to early judge what kind ship you will have. AESA radar and well armed againg have to see picture if it have EW/ECM on it.
Now lets look to the Turkish I class, 3000 ton and will have 16 VLS quad packed so it can use 64 missile with 100 km range. 16x Atmaca anti ship missile, well quipt with EW/ECM, AESA radar on it. We do not need permission from EU to modife our ships, in times of war they can not put ambargo.
Modernising old Barbaros class ships are pair with over priced expensive FREMM class ships, the German ships are pair with Istanbul Class ships.
Turkey will make TF-2000 with at least 64 VLS and a super powerfull AESA radar on it. A displacement of 7000 ton. We are not paying billions to a ship what have displacement of 67000 ton and not more armed then 16 VLS.
The level of German technology, both electronic equipment and a package of armament patterns
We don't have inferiority complex like you people, we are the same level as Western world with weapon design. We have still engine problems but that will be solev in time.
Egypt navy is better in terms of buying overpriced and downgraded weapons.