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Anyway thanks for proving your animal face with these images. Not to mention Hezbollah fired thousands of missiles into your cities but you cowards boycotted the media access and hid those humiliations that Hezbollah imposed on your regime.


These are filmed by ordinary occupiers under media boycott. A little corner which shows pigs suffering in Israel.

Not only Hezbollah and Hamas, whenever we are done with bogus Jihadists in Syria, then it will be your turn.

Perhaps those images of massacring Palestinian and Lebanese defenseless women and children which are uploaded on Egyptian page by you, can awaken these guys. Just a bit is enough

Your great fortune is the closed boundaries on Palestinians done by Arab brothers otherwise you were burning in hell by now.
Seems like damage in Israel is minimal, meanwhile entire streets in Lebanon were wiped out
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Not to mention you had about 30 times more casualties.
And then Nasrallah hid in his bunker for 10 years, and you, dear Iran, did nothing to protect your Shia brothers in Lebanon.
 
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Seems like damage in Israel is minimal, meanwhile entire streets in Lebanon were wiped out
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Not to mention you had about 30 times more casualties.
And then Nasrallah hid in his bunker for 10 years, and you, dear Iran, did nothing to protect your Shia brothers in Lebanon.
Perhaps our Arab Shia brothers didn't need our support to make your mothers cry.
Unfortunately this not our forum you piece of crap. The big daddy is on shaking mode, i hope you are prepared with your iron(y) dum(b) to receive thousands of missiles raining on your heads from Golan heights.

Liquidating Israelis is the only thing that could satisfy me. You know what is coming for you, you've always known. Stop polluting this section, POS.
 
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You are talking about the Egyptian F-16 and the guy is talking about the Usraeli F-16!?

lol. I knew something wasn't right. What's even weirder is our Israeli friend, Benny, would think that I would give two flying hoots about a worn out Israeli F-16 crashing or the fate of its pilots, and on an EGYPTIAN ARMED FORCES thread to boot!

Back to our situation; a practically brand new block 52 going down and killing its pilot has to have extenuating circumstances.
 
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lol. I knew something wasn't right. What's even weirder is our Israeli friend, Benny, would think that I would give two flying hoots about a worn out Israeli F-16 crashing or the fate of its pilots, and on an EGYPTIAN ARMED FORCES thread to boot!

Back to our situation; a practically brand new block 52 going down and killing its pilot has to have extenuating circumstances.
Indeed I saw the picture of the pilot (Inna lillah wa inna Ilayhi Raji'oon).. they say it was a technical error.. but no further details, most likely an investigation is going on right now.. I find that the F-16s have much technical errors lately!!?
Add Typhoons too, a Saudi one a few days ago(the first) and a Spanish one today (the 4th loss)..
 
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This is the map in the end of the war, in the end, we conquered more land than we lost,

That phony encirclement of poor villages filled with Fallahin and their donkeys? How did it work out for you when Adan got smashed in Suez and couldn't get back out of the city fast enough? While a few days before in the north Sharon took a piece of his tank shrapnel to the forehead when he thought he could just take Ismailiya and was bounced back like a football hitting a goal post? How well did Operation Gazelle in front of the cameras work out for you when you were forced to give up that supposed, conquered territory lol and tucked tail and withdrew to the passes while our Egyptian army sat right in your bunkers on top of your Bar Lev line laughing and dancing? A lot of good that "conquering" did. You withdrew because you lost the war.

and kept the complete majority of the land we won in 1967

"Conquered"? You mean "stole" like criminals? "Complete majority?" Look again at the map. Refresh your memory and forget about the Israeli propaganda. This is a fact that everyone knows this is the result of the war..

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Now, what kind of an Israeli "tactical victory" is that? :lol:

You attacked a defensive line of 250 men with an army of 90,000,

Who said war is fair? Is that our problem you were unprepared and arrogant that you felt you didn't need to have your army at the war zone? And BTW, you were fortunate and actually lucked out that you didn't deploy your backup line to the Barlev to support the posts because your army would've been decimated with the early Egyptian attack. All the artillery shelling and bombing would've wiped out your main line of defense and you would've lost a lot more territory in the proceeding days of the war. So the fact your posts were manned with lower numbers was in your interest.

But ain't war a b**** when people sneak attack you, ey? Must've been really sour to get a taste of your own medicine.

only to then have your whole 3rd army surrounded,

You mean that media war you put a show on for the cameras to save face from a humiliating defeat? All those Israelis surrendering and handing their flags and guns to Egyptian commanders was a shocking disaster in Tel Aviv you needed some redemption to save from complete humiliation. Yosef Agori captured and the last POW returned. How many downed pilots waking up in Egyptian hospitals and the last thing they saw was an SA-2 right at their ear?

BTW, do you know that the most downed aircraft by SAMs is held by an Egyptian AD commander? He launched 31 SA-2's and downed 15 Israeli fighters for a ratio of 1.03 SAMs per aircraft. The average ratio is 3 SA-2's per aircraft. That's the beating that the IAF took in this great war. Imagine if we had an outstanding air force also at the time?! lol

There was absolutely NOTHING the Israeli army could do to the Egyptian 3rd Army. That's why you tried to milk the negotiations for so long because you thought it would have an effect on them, meanwhile they were singing at camp fires and dancing on their tanks while IDF commanders were having temper tantrums. :lol:

have over 15,000 deaths, while inflicting barley 2,000, and that's split with Syria.

Like Barca told you, numbers don't matter. While life is not to be dismissed as unworthy, this is war and people get killed. The Germans lost 1 million on the Eastern Front while the Russians lost close to 5 millions yet who tucked their tails in the end? And BTW, you lost over 3,000 (not 2,000) with a total of 9000 including wounded for a tiny population that's a devastating loss. Why do you think the Israeli people lost their minds at your IDF and government for allowing that to happen? It was a brutal punch in the teeth. Meanwhile we could afford losses with our population and a million strong man army and expected to lose 20,000 just during the crossing, ended up with slightly over 200 dead.
 
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That phony encirclement of poor villages filled with Fallahin and their donkeys? How did it work out for you when Adan got smashed in Suez and couldn't get back out of the city fast enough? While a few days before in the north Sharon took a piece of his tank shrapnel to the forehead when he thought he could just take Ismailiya and was bounced back like a football hitting a goal post? How well did Operation Gazelle in front of the cameras work out for you when you were forced to give up that supposed, conquered territory lol and tucked tail and withdrew to the passes while our Egyptian army sat right in your bunkers on top of your Bar Lev line laughing and dancing? A lot of good that "conquering" did. You withdrew because you lost the war.



"Conquered"? You mean "stole" like criminals? "Complete majority?" Look again at the map. Refresh your memory and forget about the Israeli propaganda. This is a fact that everyone knows this is the result of the war..

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Now, what kind of an Israeli "tactical victory" is that? :lol:



Who said war is fair? Is that our problem you were unprepared and arrogant that you felt you didn't need to have your army at the war zone? And BTW, you were fortunate and actually lucked out that you didn't deploy your backup line to the Barlev to support the posts because your army would've been decimated with the early Egyptian attack. All the artillery shelling and bombing would've wiped out your main line of defense and you would've lost a lot more territory in the proceeding days of the war. So the fact your posts were manned with lower numbers was in your interest.

But ain't war a b**** when people sneak attack you, ey? Must've been really sour to get a taste of your own medicine.



You mean that media war you put a show on for the cameras to save face from a humiliating defeat? All those Israelis surrendering and handing their flags and guns to Egyptian commanders was a shocking disaster in Tel Aviv you needed some redemption to save from complete humiliation. Yosef Agori captured and the last POW returned. How many downed pilots waking up in Egyptian hospitals and the last thing they saw was an SA-2 right at their ear?

BTW, do you know that the most downed aircraft by SAMs is held by an Egyptian AD commander? He launched 31 SA-2's and downed 15 Israeli fighters for a ratio of 1.03 SAMs per aircraft. The average ratio is 3 SA-2's per aircraft. That's the beating that the IAF took in this great war. Imagine if we had an outstanding air force also at the time?! lol

There was absolutely NOTHING the Israeli army could do to the Egyptian 3rd Army. That's why you tried to milk the negotiations for so long because you thought it would have an effect on them, meanwhile they were singing at camp fires and dancing on their tanks while IDF commanders were having temper tantrums. :lol:



Like Barca told you, numbers don't matter. While life is not to be dismissed as unworthy, this is war and people get killed. The Germans lost 1 million on the Eastern Front while the Russians lost close to 5 millions yet who tucked their tails in the end? And BTW, you lost over 3,000 (not 2,000) with a total of 9000 including wounded for a tiny population that's a devastating loss. Why do you think the Israeli people lost their minds at your IDF and government for allowing that to happen? It was a brutal punch in the teeth. Meanwhile we could afford losses with our population and a million strong man army and expected to lose 20,000 just during the crossing, ended up with slightly over 200 dead.
He probably can't read maps!
I'll add another humiliation to IDF when some of its "elite forces" run to hide in police stations in Suez city they were trying to "conquer" and surrendered to police..:lol:
 
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That phony encirclement of poor villages filled with Fallahin and their donkeys? How did it work out for you when Adan got smashed in Suez and couldn't get back out of the city fast enough? While a few days before in the north Sharon took a piece of his tank shrapnel to the forehead when he thought he could just take Ismailiya and was bounced back like a football hitting a goal post? How well did Operation Gazelle in front of the cameras work out for you when you were forced to give up that supposed, conquered territory lol and tucked tail and withdrew to the passes while our Egyptian army sat right in your bunkers on top of your Bar Lev line laughing and dancing? A lot of good that "conquering" did. You withdrew because you lost the war.



"Conquered"? You mean "stole" like criminals? "Complete majority?" Look again at the map. Refresh your memory and forget about the Israeli propaganda. This is a fact that everyone knows this is the result of the war..

egypt75.gif


Now, what kind of an Israeli "tactical victory" is that? :lol:



Who said war is fair? Is that our problem you were unprepared and arrogant that you felt you didn't need to have your army at the war zone? And BTW, you were fortunate and actually lucked out that you didn't deploy your backup line to the Barlev to support the posts because your army would've been decimated with the early Egyptian attack. All the artillery shelling and bombing would've wiped out your main line of defense and you would've lost a lot more territory in the proceeding days of the war. So the fact your posts were manned with lower numbers was in your interest.

But ain't war a b**** when people sneak attack you, ey? Must've been really sour to get a taste of your own medicine.



You mean that media war you put a show on for the cameras to save face from a humiliating defeat? All those Israelis surrendering and handing their flags and guns to Egyptian commanders was a shocking disaster in Tel Aviv you needed some redemption to save from complete humiliation. Yosef Agori captured and the last POW returned. How many downed pilots waking up in Egyptian hospitals and the last thing they saw was an SA-2 right at their ear?

BTW, do you know that the most downed aircraft by SAMs is held by an Egyptian AD commander? He launched 31 SA-2's and downed 15 Israeli fighters for a ratio of 1.03 SAMs per aircraft. The average ratio is 3 SA-2's per aircraft. That's the beating that the IAF took in this great war. Imagine if we had an outstanding air force also at the time?! lol

There was absolutely NOTHING the Israeli army could do to the Egyptian 3rd Army. That's why you tried to milk the negotiations for so long because you thought it would have an effect on them, meanwhile they were singing at camp fires and dancing on their tanks while IDF commanders were having temper tantrums. :lol:



Like Barca told you, numbers don't matter. While life is not to be dismissed as unworthy, this is war and people get killed. The Germans lost 1 million on the Eastern Front while the Russians lost close to 5 millions yet who tucked their tails in the end? And BTW, you lost over 3,000 (not 2,000) with a total of 9000 including wounded for a tiny population that's a devastating loss. Why do you think the Israeli people lost their minds at your IDF and government for allowing that to happen? It was a brutal punch in the teeth. Meanwhile we could afford losses with our population and a million strong man army and expected to lose 20,000 just during the crossing, ended up with slightly over 200 dead.
And you were trying so hard to get those poor villages back, and failed.
You mean Operation Abirey-Halev (AKA Gazelle)? You mean this?
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Ahahaha, I like how you show a map from 1975, 2 years after the end of the war and only by agreements rather than a day after the war. Why won't you show us a map from today and then claim you conquered the whole Sinai? Anyways:
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I never said war is fair, you were the ones always saying "muh 1967 was a surprise attack" yet couldn't even go 2 on 1 against Israel in a surprise attack in its holiest day, and then years after claim victory only because you have managed to penetrate a 250 men defense line with 90,000 men. Even though you had bigger forces than us we won in the end, you never got your Sinai in the war, you got 15,000 dead (Syria not included) compared to our 2,500-2,800.

As for your SA-2s, the Russians were operating it, the Egyptians weren't smart enough to operate a SAM, and look how well that was for them:
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Absolutely nothing? Is that why you cried to the USSR to stop us? Even if we couldn't do "absolutely nothing", 2 days of doing nothing would kill you in the Sinai without water supply.

Oh yeah, also don't forget the 8,000 captured Egyptian soldiers.

He probably can't read maps!
I'll add another humiliation to IDF when some of its "elite forces" run to hide in police stations in Suez city they were trying to "conquer" and surrendered to police..:lol:
Actually I can, if you relied on that assumption that I wouldn't catch the "1975" in the map, you failed.
 
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Did I touch a nerve? Is the truth propaganda for you? I did nothing but post facts.
in the wrong thread... and mostly not entirely accurate and that goes in both sides... whatever by using wiki as historical facts or by saying that Gaza HAS no innocent in it and they deserve their death... just with this statement YOU should be banned, innoncent are in both side, fail to recognize it and you are just a cousin of Ibliss...

In the End who won or failed is not important... but how each of them will end... History remembers those who survived... after the win... not the winner in itself...

Moderators pls do your job.
Thx in advance.
 
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in the wrong thread... and mostly not entirely accurate and that goes in both sides... whatever by using wiki as historical facts or by saying that Gaza HAS no innocent in it and they deserve their death... just with this statement YOU should be banned, innoncent are in both side, fail to recognize it and you are just a cousin of Ibliss...

In the End who won or failed is not important... but how each of them will end... History remembers those who survived... after the win... not the winner in itself...

Moderators pls do your job.
Thx in advance.
They started talking about how "Egypt defeated Israel"

Anyway thanks for proving your animal face with these images. Not to mention Hezbollah fired thousands of missiles into your cities but you cowards boycotted the media access and hid those humiliations that Hezbollah imposed on your regime.


These are filmed by ordinary occupiers under media boycott. A little corner which shows pigs suffering in Israel.

Not only Hezbollah and Hamas, whenever we are done with bogus Jihadists in Syria, then it will be your turn.

Perhaps those images of massacring Palestinian and Lebanese defenseless women and children which are uploaded on Egyptian page by you, can awaken these guys. Just a bit is enough

Your great fortune is the closed boundaries on Palestinians done by Arab brothers otherwise you were burning in hell by now.

And you blame me for posting in the "wrong thread" and want me banned?
Yeah, I believe there are no innocents in Gaza as much as they believe there are no innocents in Israel.
 
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Congratulations to the people and the state of Egypt for this great victory of October the 6th 1973

God save Egypt and all the lands of the Arabs and Muslims from all evil..

When the majority of Arab states were not only newly emerging countries that had not yet established themselves,
During the occupation of Palestine in 1948.. In the 1956 aggression, in 1967 and in 1973 Egypt beared the heaviest weight of the Zionist aggression and the West..

6th of October 1973 was a great day in the history of the Arabs, made by the great Egyptian army..

In 6 Hours the Barlev Wall fell.. it took the Zionists 6 years to build it..

The biggest artillery fire since World War II, and the largest artillery fire in the history of the Middle East so far..
The longest air battle in world history, 45 minutes above Mansoura in an epic and rare air battle, ending in a legendary Egyptian victory.. humiliated the Zionist Air Force, which had fighter jets one generation more advanced than the Egyptians..Third Generation VS Fourth Generation = Victory for the Third Generation..

Many people do not know, that the Zionists searched for oil and extracted a few thousand barrels, and established a settlement in which close to 6000 Zionist terrorists wanted to settle in Sinai..

The Syrians also achieved the destruction of the Alon wall in the Golan during only one hour..
But the US rearmed 3 Zionist brigades destroyed by the Syrians in the Golan..They compensated for the entire Zionist losses in a short time on the Golan..Unlike the Syrians who had little compensation.. The Zionists regained the Golan Heights by 6 teams, 3 reserve + 3 rearmed..

The best that Arabs gave birth to in modern times to the world's military art
"The original image from the Hell Chamber"

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Nothing like a quick breach of a retaining wall that was more to intimidate than to be any effective barrier, since it was compromised by Egyptian forces in a few hours. You can get an idea of the magnitude of that thing and what one of the many breaches by the Egyptian forces looked like in this photo.

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There was obviously the psychological impact of that thing, right? It wasn't just a military barrier, it served 2 other purposes in that it was to intimidate and discourage as some daunting task that couldn't be breached, but to also pretend and show the world that we were the aggressors and that we needed to be kept out of our own land and that they were just trying to protect themselves. Their cunning ways and tactics were bought by the masses, not by Egyptians. This was evident by the support they got. The condemnation was nothing but political.

And of course, the psychological effect can be played by the other side as well.

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And the Zionists still deny that battle till today, because none of the Jewish/Israeli authors chose to mention it in any of the books they wrote because after 1967, how could Egyptian pilots -- mostly in MiG-21's -- take out 17 of their F-4 Phantoms and Skyhawks to 3 Egyptian losses in less than an hour of dogfighting? On top of after losing over 100+/- Israeli aircraft to Egyptian SA-2's earlier in the war. It was easy to take the Israeli claims as truthful because of course, no one trusted the Egyptian claims. :-)



Had there never been a war and the impact of the war that caused a major push back and partial withdrawal by the Israelis and gains by Egyptians, Sinai would've remained Israeli (just like the Golan) and it would've been called something like Levi Shikhut or some Yiddish name because it's undeniable that they wanted to keep that awesome, Egyptian land forever and turn it into part of Israel, using the excuse that we're the aggressors and they're just protecting their existence. Why else would they have established settlements LOL!? Although it would've been hard for them to keep it forever, had they been able to keep it long enough and settle in it with enough people, and without any military resistance, eventually they'd be diplomatically forced to concede but with a long enough elapsed time, AND especially with settlements, they would've asked exactly what Golda Meir was hinting at offering prior to the war and that is a return of a portion of it and not all, which of course, would've never been acceptable to us. Sadat realizing that, went to war as soon as he could. Then by offering peace, they didn't have that leverage to keep any land since they'd risk another war that could quite possibly have an even greater impact than the October war. Who would want that?

The Barlev line was more than a wall though, it was in reality what was hidden by that wall; fortified positions 6 stories deep in the ground, armed to the teeth all along the wall, all of them like small to medium fortified military bases interconnected between them and connected to the Usraeli HQ in Tel Aviv, defeating them and taking those positions was the real feat of the Egyptian armed forces.. before that, Egyptian Frogmen had to clog the Napalm tubes that represented a real danger to the crossing..

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And you were trying so hard to get those poor villages back, and failed.
You mean Operation Abirey-Halev (AKA Gazelle)? You mean this?
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Yep, that's the one. So now it's listed on Wiki as an Israeli victory? What happened to "Tactical victory?" I guess it depends on the mood of the person at the time of editing that page? Like I said, a lot of good it did for you since it's very clear what the actual result of the war was.

Ahahaha, I like how you show a map from 1975, 2 years after the end of the war and only by agreements rather than a day after the war. Why won't you show us a map from today and then claim you conquered the whole Sinai?

So you need me to hold your hand and walk you through the entire disengagement process? Ok, fine. Here's what happened 3 months after the war! Notice the Egyptians staying put on the east bank? Notice the Israelis with their tails tucked retreating and not only from that supposed "conquered land" on the west bank but leaving all of their 16 posts and the vaunted Bar Lev line along the entire stretch of the Suez Canal?

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Then your forces were worried because now they didn't have a difficult body of water along the the vaunted $1 billion Bar Lev line to protect them (a lot of good it did anyway) and what would prevent the Egyptian armed forces from continuing into the Sinai at some later point? So the victor of the war gets to call the shots on who will disengage to create a greater separation of forces, and we know who that obviously was. So by September of 1975, you retreated even further to the passes which is the map I showed you before because that was the end result of this war. Not only that, but notice how Egyptian gains on the eastern side actually got bigger! An additional clause of the disengagement was the Israeli forces to be clear of the northern sector of the gulf of Suez. Notice the extension of buffer zone along the Sinai coast at the gulf. Your forces were cleared out of there.
That's one heck of an Israeli victory.

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I never said war is fair, you were the ones always saying "muh 1967 was a surprise attack" yet couldn't even go 2 on 1 against Israel in a surprise attack in its holiest day, and then years after claim victory only because you have managed to penetrate a 250 men defense line with 90,000 men. Even though you had bigger forces than us we won in the end, you never got your Sinai in the war, you got 15,000 dead (Syria not included) compared to our 2,500-2,800.

I told you the disparity in the numbers worked in Egypt's favor because of population and manpower. You don't see me crying about 1967 yet you're complaining that we attacked you on your day off. What we do, is criticize our leadership for leaving us wide open to your aggression, especially Nasser. His huge gamble in 1956 left us wide open but at least he should've seen how it was too easy for the Israelis to cross into Sinai and occupy it and should've been a lot more prepared to defend it. He is 100% at fault for allowing that to happen since he saw Israel do it in 1956, basically practicing for 1967 and should've never been so complacent. Egyptian intelligence was totally aware of what was happening with the purchases of all the Mirage V's and Phantoms and Skyhawks and tanks and armor. It was so clear it was so clear yet he and the Egyptian military failed on a disastrous level. Especially when he ordered the blocking of the Straits of Tiran and sent a battalion of tanks close to the Negev border. To not realize that there could be a huge potential for some attack was a monumental failure by Nasser and co. No one is denying that. But 1973 was payback and didn't even need to be a full-fledged attack for all of Sinai. A limited objective was just enough to get the immediate results, which it obviously did.

As for your SA-2s, the Russians were operating it, the Egyptians weren't smart enough to operate a SAM, and look how well that was for them:

Russians were operating the SAMs!? lol, come on, maaaan. Now you're really going off the hook. I guess the North Koreans also had a squadron of MiG-21s and were flying on the first day of the war like that silly article said. Please. I know you know better than that. That record is held by Omar Hob-Eldein who was the commander of the Egyptian 418th SAM Battalion. He fired 31 SA-2's and downed 15 Israeli fighters. Not even the Vietnamese came close to that in 10 years of fighting the Americans and their slew of USAF fighters and bombers and USN jets. This is one of many amazing accomplishments of that war by the Egyptian forces that go unnoticed or never mentioned in Wiki pages.

Absolutely nothing? Is that why you cried to the USSR to stop us? Even if we couldn't do "absolutely nothing", 2 days of doing nothing would kill you in the Sinai without water supply.
Oh yeah, also don't forget the 8,000 captured Egyptian soldiers.

Small populations can't afford large losses. Large populations can.
You also forget this was Ramadan and what do Muslims do in Ramadan, even in the brutal heat of the desert? Besides, the 3rd army had access to the well at Ain El Zeitoun and were digging their own wells in preparation of a long standoff. There were plenty of night excursions by commandos and militia from Suez City who were bringing water and food by felukas to the 3rd army. It wasn't the dire situation that the Israelis tried to portray it with their Hollywood cameras.

At the same time, the Egyptian forces were gearing up on the west bank. You should thank your Israeli commanders for tucking their tails and withdrawing and saving their lives because they were about to get pummeled. If the loss of lives and the war wasn't bad enough, imagine if Adan's, Magen's and Sharon's divisions were destroyed by Operation Shamel, how much worst would it have been for Israel? Thank your lucky stars and the humbling of arrogance that your generals accepted the loss and withdrew to the Passes because it would've been much worst for Israel had the war continued. :-)

and mostly not entirely accurate and that goes in both sides...

Explain, please.

Also, there's not much going on right now in terms of Egyptian Armed Forces photos and the 44th anniversary of this great war was a few days ago, and as long as Benny isn't insulting (which he isn't), I personally think it's ok to challenge and discuss.
 
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Yep, that's the one. So now it's listed on Wiki as an Israeli victory? What happened to "Tactical victory?" I guess it depends on the mood of the person at the time of editing that page? Like I said, a lot of good it did for you since it's very clear what the actual result of the war was.
Victory in Operation Gazelle, tactical victory in the whole war, read and maybe you will understand.
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So you need me to hold your hand and walk you through the entire disengagement process? Ok, fine. Here's what happened 3 months after the war! Notice the Egyptians staying put on the east bank? Notice the Israelis with their tails tucked retreating and not only from that supposed "conquered land" on the west bank but leaving all of their 16 posts and the vaunted Bar Lev line along the entire stretch of the Suez Canal?
So that's territory you didn't get in the war, that's territory you got DIPLOMATICALLY, *AFTER* the war.
Which you wouldn't have got if it wasn't for Nixon.

The Bar Lev line costed 300 million dollars, however at that time, Yom Kippur, there were only 250 men in there. You claim victory for the entire war because of what you did to a 250 men defensive line with a 90,000 men army at the start of the war.

Here is what you have managed to do in the war:
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Doesn't seem much, hell, in the end you lost more than what you gained, and didn't take back the Sinai militarily like you planned to do, and Syria which made us split our army into two, also lost a nice amount of land which got us closer to their capital.

I told you the disparity in the numbers worked in Egypt's favor because of population and manpower. You don't see me crying about 1967 yet you're complaining that we attacked you on your day off. What we do, is criticize our leadership for leaving us wide open to your aggression, especially Nasser. His huge gamble in 1956 left us wide open but at least he should've seen how it was too easy for the Israelis to cross into Sinai and occupy it and should've been a lot more prepared to defend it. He is 100% at fault for allowing that to happen since he saw Israel do it in 1956, basically practicing for 1967 and should've never been so complacent. Egyptian intelligence was totally aware of what was happening with the purchases of all the Mirage V's and Phantoms and Skyhawks and tanks and armor. It was so clear it was so clear yet he and the Egyptian military failed on a disastrous level. Especially when he ordered the blocking of the Straits of Tiran and sent a battalion of tanks close to the Negev border. To not realize that there could be a huge potential for some attack was a monumental failure by Nasser and co. No one is denying that. But 1973 was payback and didn't even need to be a full-fledged attack for all of Sinai. A limited objective was just enough to get the immediate results, which it obviously did.
Yeah I actually do constantly see you crying. I see you crying about destroying all of your aircraft on the ground, I see you crying about France selling us jets, I see you crying about how 1967 war was illegal.
Didn't even need to be a full fledged attack for all of the Sinai? Is that why we caught your whole 3rd army in a pretty far from the battlefront? We all know your objective was to capture the Sinai and you didn't, hell, you didn't get all of it until 1982.

Russians were operating the SAMs!? lol, come on, maaaan. Now you're really going off the hook. I guess the North Koreans also had a squadron of MiG-21s and were flying on the first day of the war like that silly article said. Please. I know you know better than that. That record is held by Omar Hob-Eldein who was the commander of the Egyptian 418th SAM Battalion. He fired 31 SA-2's and downed 15 Israeli fighters. Not even the Vietnamese came close to that in 10 years of fighting the Americans and their slew of USAF fighters and bombers and USN jets. This is one of many amazing accomplishments of that war by the Egyptian forces that go unnoticed or never mentioned in Wiki pages.
Here are your great SAM's and here are the North Korean pilots:
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Now choose, did your own Omar Hob-Eldein shoot down a friendly aircraft or were it the Russians?
Anyways, shooting down aircraft with SAMs isn't an achievement. We destroyed 514 Arab aircraft, about half of them are yours, both Egypt and Syria destroyed 102 Israeli aircraft. Except that we didn't have the privilege of SAMs in the battlefront. We had to do it the old way, with air to air battles. And we won almost all of them.

Small populations can't afford large losses. Large populations can.
You also forget this was Ramadan and what do Muslims do in Ramadan, even in the brutal heat of the desert? Besides, the 3rd army had access to the well at Ain El Zeitoun and were digging their own wells in preparation of a long standoff. There were plenty of night excursions by commandos and militia from Suez City who were bringing water and food by felukas to the 3rd army. It wasn't the dire situation that the Israelis tried to portray it with their Hollywood cameras.

At the same time, the Egyptian forces were gearing up on the west bank. You should thank your Israeli commanders for tucking their tails and withdrawing and saving their lives because they were about to get pummeled. If the loss of lives and the war wasn't bad enough, imagine if Adan's, Magen's and Sharon's divisions were destroyed by Operation Shamel, how much worst would it have been for Israel? Thank your lucky stars and the humbling of arrogance that your generals accepted the loss and withdrew to the Passes because it would've been much worst for Israel had the war continued. :-)
Oh don't blame us for your attack in the Ramadan, also, you can at least eat in the evening of Ramadan, we have to go 24 hours without any food or water, and many of our soldiers were in holidays, you were prepared for the war and we weren't yet we still won.
Ain El Zeitoun? That's a Palestinian village in the North of Israel, how did your soldiers get there? I couldn't find any village named like that in the Sinai. Digging wells? I don't think that's so easy to find water just by digging down. And I don't think such wells can supply 90,000 men anyways. Did they also build farms? Your 3rd army wasn't surrounded for long, how did they manage to dig wells and find water, get commando units big enough to supply a 90,000 men army that was flanked and couldn't go anywhere?

At that point, the Israeli Air Force and Israeli Combat Engineering forces took out pretty much all Egyptian, Eastbound bridges over the Suez canal.

The 3 bridges that WERE standing were set up by Israeli Engineering/Armour Corps, enabling the 500th Armored Corps division and the 35th Airborne Division to move west, into the African side.

And those three were an Israeli stronghold at that point.

In addition, the IDF wasn't relying only on the units that crossed the canal westbound.

IDF southern command sent almost every reserve force to quickly flank the Egyptian army from the north, and strengthen the Western Sinai IDF presence, mainly on the eastern side of the canal, within the Sinai peninsula.
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so:

No further Egyptian forces were coming to the aid of the Third Army.

Stranded,

with logistics cut off,

no capability to be reinforced,

the Egyptian Third Division was at the mercy of IDF Southern Command.

If the US and USSR stood out of the end of the war,
Southern Command would most likely initiate a continuous operation against the Third Army, comprised of ground raids, aerial assaults and artillery bombardment until it would be established that a final blow is both optional and prudent.

And then - that blow would have been landed.

This was obvious to the Americans and Russians.
 
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