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"Egypt is going along similar lines to Turkey or Pakistan,"

I think islamic brotherhood will come to power (or some stake in power), but that is not going to be end of the world for copts.
The whole world is watching, so are generals of Egypt, if anything it will force brotherhood to soften its stand.
 
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People live with there religion they want to live with there religion it is the dictators who create havoc of religion and extremism the only regime who are unaffected of people's uprising who govern there people with religious laws and having good proximity with the clerics.
its US and Uk and wester countries that made dictator (go look on your history for 3century)
 
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I don't think Egypt will replicate either Pakistan or Turkey but create their own unique system. Secularism will definately bring more blood since Egypt is a very conservative country (been there 2 times). Democracy with a constitution that draws from Islam will be the best. But that is my opinion Egyptians know better than me.

Egyptians in this forum: what are your thoughts regarding the political system?
 
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I know.

And Turkey is the best example for it. A "relax" progressive Islamic democracy is what Egyptians should go for. Economic growth and scientific advance should be their first priority....After that , issues like defence etc will automatically be solved as Egyptians would have more resources to spend on defence etc...
its for US that turkey have a good army or eqonomy actually its all started with iran revolution when US looked for a country to make a Moderated islamic state that can be controlled that can trade with israel that can stand with jews and christian and liberal state while fight with Afghanistan and iraq!
that can send wepon to the some muslim terrorists to kill other muslims(like what US do)
this economy that they have is just based on US ,im not denying that they tried but who can possibly believe that they made through all those bets with themselves just wait and see turkey will be broken when iran fall .why? because US wont need it anymore.
not just turkey
remember first refinery they made in saudi arabia ,do you know why they made that?because we made a refinery and US wanted to tell its allied that you are better that iranian just stand against them.

im not telling that these nations are not good but none of them is independent maybe they look like that but you all know they're not.
otherwise we where better than any other country in whole ME back in 70's we had world 3rd biggest air force (just For example)we had a bigger army than all the countries around all together(dont add iraq they were with soviet) we had controll on all PG countries all these with US help and it was not what we needed we just needed allah and that's why our revolution and our government is not just Muslim ruling(like turkey) its Islamic governing

Care to elaborate?

I know some Egyptians living and studying here in Pakistan, and their culture is very similar to Pakistanis as compared to other Arabs I know, like the Syrians and Palestinians I never understood this, you are right about that, but that doesn't mean their politics are the same.
you know why because some of them cant take having oil and money and a powerful ally(not exactly ally more like a master) on their side and it all happen in the past century
 
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Well, well, haven,t we seen the level of intelligence of those fat Sheikhs and Sultans? Do you think people with high IQ see ugly fat despots as leaders? Stupids do!
Oh so you judge leaders by how good they look?!
That's why Bangladesh is a total mess.

BTW, I was right about the winner. Morsi is leading the polls:
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Ibnalwaleed your approach in this thread is completely provocative and uncivilized. If you have something to say at least say it in a respectable manner. You have insulted all of Egyptians and this is something everyone is appalled by.
 
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Ibnalwaleed your approach in this thread is completely provocative and uncivilized. If you have something to say at least say it in a respectable manner. You have insulted all of Egyptians and this is something everyone is appalled by.

صحيح ، الاخ ابن الوليد يبو لي انو زعلان شوي من محمود وحب يغيضه
لكن مو بالطريقة هذه ، عموما لو كان الامر راحع لحكومتنا لسجنوا
مرسي وكل من يصوت له ههه ، اخر شي ممكن تتمناه حكومتنا هو رئيس اخواني

عموما انا اتمنى انو مرسي يفوز بالكرسي لانه من المصريين وفاهمهم واكثر واحد سجن في عهد مبارك لانه قال كلمة حق !!
متى يجي اليوم اللي نكون احنا فيه بنفس هالموقف ، والله احسدكم يا اخ محمود اتمنى يجي اللي نشيل كلمة السعودية من الجزيرة العربية
لكن للاسف عارف ان البديل حيكونوا مطاوعة همج ولذلك ما ودي تقوم ثورة ابد :(
 
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for god sake, pakistan???

seriously

i understand the zardari democaracy kicked musharraf, but unlike mubarak musharraf wasnt corrupt and he did many good things like free media, development and we touched 8% GDP development

and TBH you cant have any choice but to side uncle sam, but still he used to meet eye with an eye to americans, he was lot better guy but unlucky that he came at the time of war, otherwise he would have been the best thing after independence
 
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I think Egypt should be a secular state, equidistant from all religions. There is a long history of religion being used as a tool in middle eastern nations. I hope Egypt gets out of the influence and everybody enjoys religious freedom and bigotry is eliminated.

Egyptians are very good people, albeit a bit emotional. The peaceful revolution has proved the potential of Egyptian people. I wish them all the best!
 
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I think Egypt should be a secular state, equidistant from all religions. There is a long history of religion being used as a tool in middle eastern nations. I hope Egypt gets out of the influence and everybody enjoys religious freedom and bigotry is eliminated.

When ? When did religion was a tool except Saudi and Iran ?
all the arab states used to call themselves " Secular " states
and in the time of these secular states the most crucial dictatorships
are these secular states

Bin ali was secular to the core, mubarak also used to be the same thing.
bashar is ba'thiest which is to be called ultra secular and killed almost 40k in hama just because they are from the muslim brotherhood.

even though I'm not the best example of islamist and I think of my self as liberal
I would say that the best ruler that Egypt and every arab state can have is a liberal leader with islamic background like "erdogan"
 
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Ibnalwaleed your approach in this thread is completely provocative and uncivilized. If you have something to say at least say it in a respectable manner. You have insulted all of Egyptians and this is something everyone is appalled by.
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:what:لا يشيخ
يعني نسينا كل الي كان يقوله محمود و وقفت علي تعلمني وش أكتب.
يقولك السعوديين بهايم وتقولي انا انسفلايزد لاني قلت حكومتنا تقرر من الرئيس.
لو موب عاجبك كلامي حطني اقنور لست او كلمني عالخاص لكن موب بهذي الطريقة​
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I think Egypt should be a secular state, equidistant from all religions. There is a long history of religion being used as a tool in middle eastern nations. I hope Egypt gets out of the influence and everybody enjoys religious freedom and bigotry is eliminated.

Egyptians are very good people, albeit a bit emotional. The peaceful revolution has proved the potential of Egyptian people. I wish them all the best!
The Muslim brotherhood is leading the polls, so 99.9% he is going to win. He has the full backing of MB and Al-Nor party.
 
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Well , I hope Egyptian become free , independent and strong ...

at least an independent country is much more better than a puppet country who only doing what his master says !!
Yes, i hope as a syrian that the new egypt will start sending real help to syria to fight the minority shia government in syria
 
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