Egypt Interested in A400M Atlas?

[jhungary]

The only other Arab country that didn't get the AIM-120 is Iraq, but that's because Iraq is not a real US ally, however Egypt is an ally to the US.

But Iraq didn't get the AIM-120 because US is reluctant to sell weapons to Iraq anyway, and Iraq doesn't need a modern airforce anyway, but Egypt's situation is different, AIM-120 to Egypt was blocked by Israel, F-15 sale to Egypt blocked by Israel, JDAM sale to Egypt blocked by Israel.

Israel is just fuked up

meh, they work on their own national interest, the US works on theirs. It's like when China object the US selling AIM-120 to Taiwan, it was under the Chinese own national interest not to have Taiwan have the ARMAAM, but US also works on their own national interest.

 

[BordoEnes]

Tell my about the regional enemies of Turkey? oh right, Greece will invade Turkey lmao

Greece, Armenia, Iran, Syria, PKK and KRG to some degree. Daily going head to head with Russian interests and having strained relationship with Israel and Egype.

 

[Wasteland]

Greece, Armenia, Iran, Syria, PKK and KRG to some degree. Daily going head to head with Russian interests

As for this part, it's bullshit and i'm calling you on it.

And this part "and having strained relationship with Israel and Egypt"

So, the boy says Egypt has no regional enemies, but when i ask about Turkey's regional enemies he mentions Egypt lmao.

Turkey and Israel are allies, everyone knows that, you buy their weapons, you upgrade your weapons in Israel, you train with them, your president didn't do anything to stop this, he just runs his mouth.

 

[Blue Marlin]

Apparently no. Israel block the AIM-120 sale to Egypt some time ago.

U.S. agrees not to sell AMRAAM to Egypt

well at first i thought they would have the aim-120 but it does seem that is real is not keen on their neighbor having the missile. wonder why?

anyhow they should look at the mica they are getting with the Rafael and check if they can implemented there some how. or go so South Africa and get the Darter-r. heck even the sd-10a may be able to cut it, as it's Mil-Std-1553 standard.

 

[Zarvan]

Egypt is the roll. Fighter Jets and SUBS also warships and helicopters and lot more

 

[BordoEnes]

As for this part, it's bullshit and i'm calling you on it.

And this part "and having strained relationship with Israel and Egypt"

So, the boy says Egypt has no regional enemies, but when i ask about Turkey's regional enemies he mentions Egypt lmao.

Turkey and Israel are allies, everyone knows that, you buy their weapons, you upgrade your weapons in Israel, you train with them, your president didn't do anything to stop this, he just runs his mouth.

Having strained relationship and being enemies are two different things. Besides nobody cares what you think, this discussion is about Egypte's non-existing regional enemies. You used Libya as example, which doesnt even having a proper standing army. Another example you used is the Suez canal. I dont see how an military cargo transport plane and 2 helicopter carriers is going to make any difference against any of the aformentioned factors. Insted of making excuses how about you admit that the Egyptian regime is just wasting their money on toys they dont even need just so they can be favored by europeun countries.

Turkey has not bought any Israeli weapons in a long time nor did we have any major excercise and drills with the Israeli army, where do you get that BS from?

 

[jhungary]

well at first i thought they would have the aim-120 but it does seem that is real is not keen on their neighbor having the missile. wonder why?

anyhow they should look at the mica they are getting with the Rafael and check if they can implemented there some how. or go so South Africa and get the Darter-r. heck even the sd-10a may be able to cut it, as it's Mil-Std-1553 standard.

MICA is not nearly as good as AIM-120C. (Half the range if I remember correctly) SD-10A is on-par (Chinese Claim) slightly inferior to AIM-120C (Western claim) but seriously inferior to AIM-120D. I doubt Egypt will chose it.

Beside if they really want AIM-120C/D, they will and can get it somehow. Don't forget other Arab country were using AIM-120C/D

 

[Wasteland]

Turkey has not bought any Israeli weapons in a long time nor did we have any major excercise and drills with the Israeli army, where do you get that BS from?

2 years is a long time? you just received EW systems from them in 2013.

"Libya as example, which doesnt even have a proper standing army. Another example you used is the Suez canal"

Oh the Straw man, refuting something that wasn't even presented by me! Don't put words in my mouth fuker! I can also say Egypt's enemies are Israel, Iran, and strained relations with Turkey, Ethiopia, war on TERRORISM in Yemen, Libya, no one said Libya as a COUNTRY is Egypt's foe, not to mention Egypt's responsibility to protect their Arab neighbors.

You talk about standing armies, while you say Turkey's enemies include Kurdish militias? and you say Iran wtf? Turkey and Iran are literally allies and have very good ties, Syria never was and never will be a threat to Turkey.

Armenian "army" is a bunch of militias with little to no equipment, so by your dumb logic, no need for 240 F-16's for that because Armenia literally doesn't have an airforce.
Greece, when did a major battle ever take place between Turkey and Greece? oh like 100 years ago lol then some accidental kids play over Aegean sea.

Conclusion: Turkey doesn't need a military it's just plain stupid waste of money, that's how your dumb logic works.


Oh btw, Egypt is not the one begging the Europeans to join the EU.

 

[BordoEnes]

2 years is a long time? you just received EW systems from them in 2013.

"Libya as example, which doesnt even have a proper standing army. Another example you used is the Suez canal"

Oh the Straw man, refuting something that wasn't even presented by me! Don't put words in my mouth fuker! I can also say Egypt's enemies are Israel, Iran, and strained relations with Turkey, Ethiopia, war on TERRORISM in Yemen, Libya, no one said Libya as a COUNTRY is Egypt's foe, not to mention Egypt's responsibility to protect their Arab neighbors.

You talk about standing armies, while you say Turkey's enemies include Kurdish militias? and you say Iran wtf? Turkey and Iran are literally allies and have very good ties, Syria never was and never will be a threat to Turkey.

Armenian "army" is a bunch of militias with little to no equipment, so by your dumb logic, no need for 240 F-16's for that because Armenia literally doesn't have an airforce.
Greece, when did a major battle ever take place between Turkey and Greece? oh like 100 years ago lol then some accidental kids play over Aegean sea.

Conclusion: Turkey doesn't need a military it's just plain stupid waste of money, that's how your dumb logic works.

Oh btw, Egypt is not the one begging the Europeans to join the EU.

Damn. You are full of shitt haha. I have no idea what point you are trying to make considering your poor english with your vague attempts at deciphering and counter using my arguments against myself. If for one second you cant stop being a keyboard warrior and actually make an attempt to reply without looking like a moron that would be great.

 

[Sinai Horus]

The only other Arab country that didn't get the AIM-120 is Iraq, but that's because Iraq is not a real US ally, however Egypt is an ally to the US.

But Iraq didn't get the AIM-120 because US is reluctant to sell weapons to Iraq anyway, and Iraq doesn't need a modern airforce anyway, but Egypt's situation is different, AIM-120 to Egypt was blocked by Israel, F-15 sale to Egypt blocked by Israel, JDAM sale to Egypt blocked by Israel.

Israel is just fuked up

If UAE/KSA/Jordan has them, then we technically have them.

 

[Blue Marlin]

MICA is not nearly as good as AIM-120C. (Half the range if I remember correctly) SD-10A is on-par (Chinese Claim) slightly inferior to AIM-120C (Western claim) but seriously inferior to AIM-120D. I doubt Egypt will chose it.

Beside if they really want AIM-120C/D, they will and can get it somehow. Don't forget other Arab country were using AIM-120C/D

range does not make a missile better. they may be able to get the aim-120 as they are with Israel and other arab states with the Yemen. and isreal will not be too much of a problem now. hey in-fact they may even give their blessing.

 

[Total Destruction]

Egypt or Turkey .. doesn't matter,,, we both brothers forever.

 

[MICA]

Beside if they really want AIM-120C/D, they will and can get it somehow. Don't forget other Arab country were using AIM-120C/D

yeah because it is like USB , just plug and play

 

[Amun]

Egypt or Turkey .. doesn't matter,,, we both brothers forever.

I believe in that but most of Turks here in PDF don't think so as they are blindly follow there politicians ...unfortunately .

 

[Total Destruction]

I believe in that but most of Turks here in PDF don't think so as they are blindly follow there politicians ...unfortunately .

F*** politicians ... in the end we are brothers , what we gonna gain from hate or saying my army better than your army ? nothing , both countries need to work together against the greedy Israeli&Greek in mediterranean.