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Egypt and Algeria 'stunned' as Turkey gains strategic control in North Africa

Eastern Libya is red line for Egypt because otherwise there be massive refugee flow into Egypt.

Russia and Turkey aren't allied, they're both on opposing sides in Syria and Libya

On the contrary. Turkey buys nuclear power from Russia instead of US. Turkey buys SAM from Russia instead of US. Because of this, Turkey got kicked out of F-35 and embargoed by US and EU.
 
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Eastern Libya is red line for Egypt because otherwise there be massive refugee flow into Egypt.
Not so imo. This isn't like Syria where both sides are clearly cut. This war is about who gets to rule Libya and the population is impartial to both. Neither side actually has any negative nor positive ideas about the general public.

So it makes no sense for refugees to flee to Egypt just because someone else took control of their city.

Then again, regardless of the war, people will ofc seek to get to better living conditions which Egypt will undoubtedly offer.
 
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Not so imo. This isn't like Syria where both sides are clearly cut. This war is about who gets to rule Libya and the population is impartial to both. Neither side actually has any negative nor positive ideas about the general public.

So it makes no sense for refugees to flee to Egypt just because someone else took control of their city.

Then again, regardless of the war, people will ofc seek to get to better living conditions which Egypt will undoubtedly offer.

Eastern Libyans have always detested Western Libyans. Gaddafi cared nothing about Benghazi. It was in shambles. That's why it's hard for Western Libyans to push into Eastern Libya. Gaddafi was never able to take Eastern Libya due to Eastern Libyans fight tooth and nail. Eastern Libya and Western Libya can be said as two countries with completely different demographics, sort of like North Yemen compared to South Yemen and Alawite Syria with Sunni Syria.
 
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Eastern Libya is red line for Egypt because otherwise there be massive refugee flow into Egypt.



On the contrary. Turkey buys nuclear power from Russia instead of US. Turkey buys SAM from Russia instead of US. Because of this, Turkey got kicked out of F-35 and embargoed by US and EU.
I suggest you read the part you've quoted again. Unlike regular people like you and me countries dont hold grudges or become pals or enemies. They act accordingly to their interests and mask that behavior as hate or love to sell it to the public.

That's why in Syria and Libya Turkey and Russia are on different sides, but they're still cooperating on multiple strategic partnerships (like gas pipelines which you forgot to mention).

Eastern Libyans have always detested Western Libyans. Gaddafi cared nothing about Benghazi. It was in shambles. That's why it's hard for Western Libyans to push into Eastern Libya. Gaddafi was never able to take Eastern Libya due to Eastern Libyans fight tooth and nail. Eastern Libya and Western Libya can be said as two countries with completely different demographics, sort of like North Yemen compared to South Yemen and Alawite Syria with Sunni Syria.
I'm not familiar with the situation being like this. If that's the case then I stand corrected - I'll have to look this up.
 
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Rise of the turks, sign of judgement day!
 
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Tunisia and Algeria have no threat from the GNA or Turkey. Egypt will be concerned because their relations with Turkey broke down and they also hate the MB. Sudan is in crises at the moment.

Meanwhile nobody is talking about the threat from the extremist groups and terrorist organisations. Who will deal with them? They are already destroying worship places and the Libyan Islamic History, just like they tried to destroy it in Pakistan, Iraq, Somalia, Syria, Yemen, Mali and other places.
 
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Algeria and Tunisia seem to be pro-GNA from what I'm seeing.
Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia.. said a few weeks ago that they don't want to interfere with Libyan affairs..at all..
 
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Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia.. said a few weeks ago that they don't want to interfere with Libyan affairs..at all..

Tunisia's Islamist government seems to be pro GNA which is basically MB. Tunisia congratulated GNA after GNA took Watiya airbase. Egypt bought MiG-29 and Ka-52 from Russia to secure Russia's support in Libya war. Algeria is a heavy client state of Russia. It's natural Algeria does not support GNA. Algeria remains fairly neutral. Algeria in the past used to fight MB for decades when MB tried to take over Algeria in the 90s.
 
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Tunisia's Islamist government seems to be pro GNA which is basically MB. Tunisia congratulated GNA after GNA took Watiya airbase. Egypt bought MiG-29 and Ka-52 from Russia to secure Russia's support in Libya war. Algeria is a heavy client state of Russia. It's natural Algeria does not support GNA. Algeria remains fairly neutral.
Still not intervening..
 
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Eastern Libya is red line for Egypt because otherwise there be massive refugee flow into Egypt.



On the contrary. Turkey buys nuclear power from Russia instead of US. Turkey buys SAM from Russia instead of US. Because of this, Turkey got kicked out of F-35 and embargoed by US and EU.

Still cant stop spouting bullshit??

I suggest you read the part you've quoted again. Unlike regular people like you and me countries dont hold grudges or become pals or enemies. They act accordingly to their interests and mask that behavior as hate or love to sell it to the public.

That's why in Syria and Libya Turkey and Russia are on different sides, but they're still cooperating on multiple strategic partnerships (like gas pipelines which you forgot to mention).


I'm not familiar with the situation being like this. If that's the case then I stand corrected - I'll have to look this up.

Your talking to a guy who thinks the Dragunov SVD is an assault rifle.
 
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CAIRO/ALGIERS--In just six months since signing its agreement with the government of Fayez al-Sarraj in Libya, Turkey has been able to tactically overturn the tables of war against the commander of the Libyan National Army (LNA), Field Marshal Khalifa Haftar.

Even more, it has changed the strategic game in North Africa, stunning Algeria and Egypt. This could push the two countries to push back against the new Turkish presence on their borders.

Turkey’s control of the strategic al-Watiya airbase in western Libya cannot be looked at as a limited operational success that Ankara won thanks to its drones.

It is much more serious than that. The fact of the matter is that Turkey has acquired strategic locations in North Africa, enabling it to pose a threat to the security of countries such as Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt and Sudan.

Analysts said countries in the region have not seriously dealt with Turkey’s intervention, failing to understand that its shipment of weapons and mercenaries to Libya is indicative of ambitions broader than limiting Haftar’s power.

Turkey’s new influence in Libya has imposed a new balance of powers to be reckoned with, both for North African and European countries.

These same analysts point out that the Turkish president’s plans to secure Libyan oil and control the long Libyan coast impacts the interests and security of countries in the region and the security of international navigation in the Mediterranean.

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Fighters loyal to Libya’s Government of National Accord after taking control of al-Watiya airbase, May 18. (REUTERS)
So far, official reactions of concerned countries regarding the fall of al-Watiya base has been lukewarm.

On Monday, Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi held an urgent meeting with Defence Minister Mohamed Zaki, in which he stressed the need to keep the Egyptian armed forces on high alert, a reaction that some considered a symbolic message to show that Cairo rejects the new reality on the ground. During an African event Tuesday, Sisi said security in Libya was a priority for Egypt.

Many Egyptian sources said the prospect of Egyptian military intervention in Libya has not been so far in the cards. They say that Cairo will not fall into the trap of being drawn into a war in the neighbouring country, whose tribal structure complicates the struggle.

Egyptian sources point out that Turkey’s battle is not with Egypt, but with the international powers that supported the overthrow of Muammar Qaddafi’s regime to serve their own interests in Libya and the region, such as Italy, France and the United States. Surely, these countries will not accept a strong and strategic Turkish presence in Libya that risks giving Ankara control of the waters of the Mediterranean and opens the door for further pressure and blackmail.

A Turkish military presence at al-Watiya base or on the Libyan coast is seen as a threat to southern European countries bordering the Mediterranean, especially when coupled with Russian-Turkish coordination in Libya. It also threatens the national security of North African countries bordering the Libyan West, such as Algeria. The latter surely cannot be content with ignoring Turkey’s presence in a region that it believes represents a strategic extension of its security, as Algeria maintains advanced security and economic relations with tribal and social activities in the border region.

Algerian President Abdelmajid Tebboune has stressed that it is not possible to talk about a solution in Libya that does not take Algeria’s interests into account. This means that sooner or later, Algeria will be drawn to clash with Turkey in order to protect its national security.

Observers in Algeria pointed out the proposed constitutional amendments aimed at freeing the Algerian army from old constraints that have prevented it from playing external roles may become a golden opportunity for the country to move freely to protect its national security, including inside Libyan territory where the Turkish army and allied militias are stationed.

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Libya and its neighbours
The deteriorating security situation in Libya will definitely help Algeria justify this expected shift from one of its most prominent diplomatic and political tenets.

Even though Algeria’s reactions to recent developments in Libya have so far been only rhetorical, the country could eventually be compelled to abandon its stance of neutrality in light of increasing signs of insecurity due to Turkish military presence in Libya. Meanwhile, Turkey is dispatching Islamists in Algeria to pressure Algerian authorities to accept Turkey’s military presence in Libya as a fait accompli. But outside interference, after all, runs counter to the anti-colonial spirit of the Algerian revolution.

https://thearabweekly.com/algeria-a...-options-they-face-turkish-presence-next-door
The arab weekly. They are concerned about Turkey that has no designs in neighbouring arab states but no concern at all about Al Aqsa and palestine or the Annexation of the west Bank
Arabs will be arabs.
 
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Not so imo. This isn't like Syria where both sides are clearly cut. This war is about who gets to rule Libya and the population is impartial to both. Neither side actually has any negative nor positive ideas about the general public.

So it makes no sense for refugees to flee to Egypt just because someone else took control of their city.

Then again, regardless of the war, people will ofc seek to get to better living conditions which Egypt will undoubtedly offer.

you have a point here ..... but you need to consider the historical and demographical contradictions between eastern and western Libya .... That increased these days by the fight that is going on and many kills from both sides.....

So , Egypt will not risk of letting the Eastern Libyans slaughtered as an act of revenge from the Western Libyans & Syrian Mercenaries ...... also to prevent waves of refugees at the Egyptian boarders .


On the other hand , Algeria soon will start to worry about the foreign Turkish presence on their boarders ...... also because of the bloody history of Algerian Terrorists that may be supported from the chaos in western Libya .

As for Tunisia, the pressure started to raise against the fragile political regime in the country .... and the waves turned up as a response of every call , deal or news mentioning Erdogan or Turkey .....
 
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They were not complaining when Britain France and US Destroyed Libya?
What wrong with them? Still getting nightmares by the Ghosts of the Ottomans?
Everyone is perusing their interests in the region. Turkish Presence is aggression while Russian Presence is Fine?
 
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Tunisia's Islamist government seems to be pro GNA which is basically MB. Tunisia congratulated GNA after GNA took Watiya airbase. Egypt bought MiG-29 and Ka-52 from Russia to secure Russia's support in Libya war. Algeria is a heavy client state of Russia. It's natural Algeria does not support GNA. Algeria remains fairly neutral. Algeria in the past used to fight MB for decades when MB tried to take over Algeria in the 90s.

Thanks for pointing out about Algeria bloody war back in the 1990s, Algeria will definitely be concerned with the MB and salafis getting powerful in Libya, if you take away their power then they resort to suicide attacks and anti state destruction. At the moment Algeria seems to be ok with GNA and Turkey. Let's see.
 
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