East Asian and Russian Students are the smartest according to a study

[Developereo]

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Post reported.

Simply disgusting.

 

[senheiser]

Let's look at the hard data from PISA and TIMSS test results

You cannot change the objective facts contained in the results from the PISA and TIMSS tests. Tall tales are useless. Also, your grammar is a strong indication that your country's results on the PISA and TIMSS tests are accurate.

Instead of his bullshit, let me repost the PISA and TIMSS test results. This way, we can all look at the facts.

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you forgot thelearningcurve

Index Ranking | Index | Pearson | The Learning Curve

 

[Speeder 2]

I seriously read your post three times in a row, I still couldn't understand the point you were trying to make. Looks like either your final assertion is true, or whatever argument you were trying to make is unintelligible at best.

Could it be another possiblity that you are NOT telling the truth, at least not the full truth if you think you know the full truth?

God only knows. I have only posted what my personal observations were, when I was still in high school.

Your personal observation could be partially right or completely wrong, or not in full...none of which can support your subjective claims, particularly when teh conclusion contrdicts to what worldwide statitical community thinks. Yes or no?

When we migrated here, I was still a child, my father and mother are certainly some of the best and the brightest. He possess two Masters degrees, one in Japan and one from India, amongst a multitude of other qualifications. My mother is equally as qualified. No high school student moves to Australia on their own steam.

Two problems with this:

1, What do you mean by "the best and the brightest"?

Only a hard-sceince-related degree in a worldwide reputed university can be counted, more or less, as a geenrally accepted yardstick.

e.g.

a BA of electronic enginnering, Maths or Physics major in Catech or any top 20 scitech unis in the US, Europe or in the Far East for instance, on average, requires about 120 IQ.

A environmental or ethnic studies BA, for instance, or even Ph.D from JackDick university or even Yale, is no proof whatsoever of ANY IQ, except that it proves that he/she is not retarded and COULD BE reseaonablely bright or even more. A 110 IQ is about enough to get you most hard sicence Ph.D, DRDOer alikes, in India, considering it's about >2rd above the population mean there.


2. even if your patent are very smart - not in Indian standard but in global one - that is about 130 IQ, it's no guerantee that YOU are very smart, due to the natural law of mean reversal. Within several generations, your bloodline, no matter you have 130 IQ or 60 IQ, is set to reverse to your indigenous population mean IQ which is low 80s.

I don't understand what you are trying to prove here.

Okay now that I'm reading this again, for the final time, I have come to the conclusion that you have no idea what you are talking about.

that´s why I warned you earlier that it could be very hard for you to follow me due to the huge IQ difference between us. See, I´ve grown up in a very competitive Germanic society where, in my not so bad memory, I can´t recall more than 3 times when I didn´t score #1 in any Maths contest during entire my schooling years, and I went to some of the most competitive schools in the country.

I know you will call this a win, but for the other readers here, you have demonstrated the logical fallacy known as, 'ignoratio elenchi'.

Ignoratio elenchi, also known as irrelevant conclusion, is the informal fallacy of presenting an argument that may or may not be logically valid, but fails nonetheless to address the issue in question.

You know what, I don´t give 2 hoots about what average readers think about you. The global average readers nowadays might well have IQ of between 85 to 90. Yet anyone with more than 100 IQ, he-she could instantly notice the multiple inconsistences (i instantly noticed 5 of them) due to logical fallacies in your post, if he/she is honest, which forces one to draw a conclusion that either you are lying (self-knowingly or not), or you´re not bright, or likely both, make no mistake about it.

 

[senheiser]

I dont understand why youre bashing vietnam, they didnt participate in any tests so you cant really argue about something you dont know.

 

[kbd-raaf]

Could it be another possiblity that you are NOT telling the truth, at least not the full truth if you think you know the full truth?




Your personal observation could be partially right or completely wrong, or not in full...none of which can support your subjective claims, particularly when teh conclusion contrdicts to what worldwide statitical community thinks. Yes or no?





Two problems with this:

1, What do you mean by "the best and the brightest"?

Only a hard-sceince-related degree in a worldwide reputed university can be counted, more or less, as a geenrally accepted yardstick.

e.g.

a BA of electronic enginnering, Maths or Physics major in Catech or any top 20 scitech unis in the US, Europe or in the Far East for instance, on average, requires about 120 IQ.

A environmental or ethnic studies BA, for instance, or even Ph.D from JackDick university or even Yale, is no proof whatsoever of ANY IQ, except that it proves that he/she is not retarded and COULD BE reseaonablely bright or even more. A 110 IQ is about enough to get you most hard sicence Ph.D, DRDOer alikes, in India, considering it's about >2rd above the population mean there.


2. even if your patent are very smart - not in Indian standard but in global one - that is about 130 IQ, it's no guerantee that YOU are very smart, due to the natural law of mean reversal. Within several generations, your bloodline, no matter you have 130 IQ or 60 IQ, is set to reverse to your indigenous population mean IQ which is low 80s.




that´s why I warned you earlier that it could be very hard for you to follow me due to the huge IQ difference between us. See, I´ve grown up in a very competitive Germanic society where, in my not so bad memory, I can´t recall more than 3 times when I didn´t score #1 in any Maths contest during entire my schooling years, and I went to some of the most competitive schools in the country.






You know what, I don´t give 2 hoots about what average readers think about you. The global average readers nowadays might well have IQ of between 85 to 90. Yet anyone with more than 100 IQ, he-she could instantly notice the multiple inconsistences (i instantly noticed 5 of them) due to logical fallacies in your post, if he/she is honest, which forces one to draw a conclusion that either you are lying (self-knowingly or not), or you´re not bright, or likely both, make no mistake about it.

My father has his Bachelor's in Mechanical Engineering from Jadavpur University, a Masters from IIT Kharagpur and another Masters from the University of Tokyo. Plus numerous Diplomas from institutes here in Australia. He is a Senior Project Manager at BHP Billiton, the world's LARGEST mining company. He has managed multi billion dollar projects and has achieved far more than you probably ever will.

My mother is a professor in the University of Western Australia's mathematics department. She holds two Master's degrees, one from the University of Auckland and one from Jadavpur University.

I am 19 years old, I am on my way to finishing a double degree in mechanical engineering and management in 4 years, 1.5 years faster than the normal degree. I am a Junior Design Engineer at WorleyParsons, a multi billion dollar engineering consultancy, once I finish my degree at the end of next year I will be joining the RAAF as an Aerospace Engineer.

I am at a very good physical level, can probably bench press, a weight equaling two of you, have run double marathons, coming 18th in Sydney (a pretty good result) and represented my university in basketball.

What have you done with your so called, 'superior intellect'?

I did do an IQ test in high school and IIRC, I was in the mid 120's.

Even if I assume you are, all that you claim to be, no team will want to suffer working through a project with an obnoxious, dickhead like you who possesses at best poor and at worst, non existent social skills.

I certainly didn't come first in all maths contests or whatever, but I have done the most with what I have been born with and I dare say, done quite well.

This racial superiority vitriol that you are spouting sounds very similar to what the Nazis were espousing in the 1930's. Who knows, maybe one day, my squadron might be flying sorties over China and we will be able to sort out this mess once and for all.

 

[Speeder 2]

Some observations alongwith some explainations on the outliers in the TIMSS ranking:



1. Netherlands consistently scores top of Europe, bar Finland. It proves that this is pretty good stats here. In my experiences, the Dutch on average are about the smartest in the continent except Finns who are partially boosted by the Far Eastern genes. The Dutch number could be even higher if the ethnic Turkish immigrants are excluded.

2. Belgium is ranked too low compared to the Dutch due to far larger mass immigration from Morroco, Turkey and Algeria. In fact the native Southern Belgians are geenrally considered with higher average than the Dutch. (the relatively low German number ditto due to large Turkish immigration)

3. Both Canada and AUS numbers (and NZ as well)are benefitted from recent mass Chinese immigration, which offset the Indian ones, with varies degrees though. AUS number is much lower than Canada mainly due to its relatively far larger recent Indian intake than the Chinese one.

4. Sweden and Norway have very low numbers. With tiny native population, the Scandinavia countries are completely Fcuked in the long run due to the highest per cap level mass immigration in Europe. Indigenous Swedes and Nords are about as smart as their genetic kins the Dans from Denmark where immigration is far less, at least for the last several years.

5. cognitive high number of the UK is somewhat a MYTH, to me for the moment at least!!!

6. Russia´s high mark confirms the theory that Finns results are partially boosted by Far Easern genes, because Russia is one of only 3 European countries, alongwith Finland and Hungary(which scores high as well), that has significant native population with Far Eastern genes.

7. Nordic Estonians are a pleasant surprise. How much of its high mark is due to Russian immigrants remains to be seen.

8, The same as Estonia, Israel´s sudden jump might have A LOT to do with its huge size of Russian Jewish immigrants.

Predictions:

1. If India took the, NONE of Indian states would feature inside the top 50 ranking, with majoruty of Indians states falling into lower bottom, AND-OR just very bottom, of the list, somewhere in the regions of Indonesia.

2. If China took the TIMSS, some Chinese provinces would shoot the light out of the table far outgunning the Finns and Koreans. Multiple Chinese regions would take the #1 spot, with the majority of the rest stand within top 10 or top 15 in the ranking, I bet.

All in all, this TIMSS release is NO surprise AT ALL. Indeed it´s a perfect fit with what the worldwide science and HBD communities have already known for a very long time.

 

[Kolaps]

I don't know if Taiwan that great...because I don't feel it.

It just a several people are smart. Taiwan also have massive braindrain problem, where our smart people went to mainland and US. Because of war threat from the communist, almost all rich people in Taiwan send their money aboard and don't want to invest in Taiwan. Everyone in Taiwan want to running away if they had a change. Because of that factors, Taiwan economy and living standard are not improving.

Taiwan is almost a wasteland now.

I also don't feel Taiwanese are smart, the definition of smart is very big. To be honest, I have a lot of disappointment with Taiwan.

 

[deep hacker here]

THE MOST STUPID LIST I HAVE TO SAY

IF U CALL BOOK WORMS THE MOST INTELLIGENT THEN YOU YOURSELF ARE DUMB TOO
I HAVE BEEN THERE IN SOUTH KOREA FOR A VISIT AND I HAVE MET MANY STUDENTS OF MY AGE , YES THEY ARE TOO CRAMMING STUDENTS LOTS OF RESEARCH PROPER HARDWORK FOR HOMEWORK BUT THEY LACK DEEP KNOWLEDGE THEY LACK ON OTHER AREAS LIKE MOST STUDENTS IN KOREA ARE TOO BUSY IN BOOK CRAMMING THAT IF U ASK OO TOPIC THEY ARE SCREWED AND IF U ASK SOMETHING WHICH IS NOT GIVEN IN BOOK THEY ARE SCREWED AGAIN ON THE OTHER HAND INDIANS HAVE A HARD LIFE TO LIVE. THEY HAVE TO BUY EDUCATION WITH HARDWORK. AND YES WE GUYS ARE AVERAGE MOST SMARTEST AND RUSSIANS

LOL LOL RUSSIANS ARE DUMB AS **** I HAVE LOOTED ALMOST EVERY RUSSIAN I HAVE MET AS I HAVE TRAVELLED TO MANY PLACES AS I AM RICH AND I HAVE MET RUSSIANS OF MY AGE THEY ARE EASY TO FOOL U CAN SELL UR **** FOR THEIR MONEY AND YES THEY KNOW TABLES UPTO 100.

LIST IS ****

WESTENERS TOTALLY DUMB BIG TIME BOOK CRAMMERS U CAN SELL THEM EASILY

KOREANS TOTALLY SCREWED PEOPLE ALWAYS BUSY WITH BOOKS CANT EVEN FIGHT WITH A CAT

SMART MEANS OVERALL PERSONALITY A ATTITUDE WHICH CAN SOLVE EVERY PROBLEM AND YES INDIANS , AMERICANS AND CHINESE ARE BEST .
1. INDIA
2. CHINA
3 AMERICA

 

[Vinod2070]

Ok, if a bunch of people with Q hairstyle ( that had nothing to do with intelligence btw, quite the contrary in fact) are taken, what will be their average IQ?

What if there is a strong element of low self esteem as well. And the inability to write a single coherent sentence in any language based on a finite set of characters?

 

[Sasquatch]

Threads like these don't turn out well.