Dwarka : Myth or reality?

[Rafi]

No you seperated based on religion....NOT ethnicity or regionalism....So give it a rest....

And I can assure you that IVC had nothing to do with Islam....which is what Pakistan as a state is based on....

So calling IVC a Pakistani civilization is a logical fallacy....

Again...No one person can put a claim on history especially when the land has linked so many people over millenia....

The Indus Valley Civilization was built by our ancestors, not some "indians" - and this corresponds to Ancient Pakistan.

 

[Rafi]

Wrong.

The Indus valley civilization existed first and due to invasion and other natural factors the same people moved further east to form the Ganges civilization which still flourishes in India.

Never in the history of the world, has a entire population moved, DNA tests on the bones found at Mohenjadaro - have found that they correspond to local people - so no they did not move. LoL

 

[Jako]

The Indus Valley Civilization was built by our ancestors, not some "indians" - and this corresponds to Ancient Pakistan.

But you are a arab descendent.
And another portion of Pak migrated from India.
And many Indians migrated from Pak.
You see OUR history is inter-connected.

 

[Rafi]

Ancient Pakistan?

In case you don't know, there was no Pakistan before 1947... It was India everywhere..lol

Anyways, That's what expected from you so its not actually your fault.

Pakicetus is a genus of extinct terrestrial carnivorous mammal of the family Pakicetidae which was endemic to Pakistan from the Eocene (55.8 ± 0.2—40 ± 0.1 Ma). Pakicetus existed for approximately 15.8 million years.[1] Many paleontologists regard it as a close relative to the direct ancestors of modern day whales.

The ancient ancestor of modern whales, lived in Ancient Pakistan, and this is why the animal is named, it lived millions of years ago.

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But you are a arab descendent.
And another portion of Pak migrated from India.
And many Indians migrated from Pak.
You see OUR history is inter-connected.

I am a proud Pakistani Punjabi Jatt with no connection to the entity to the east.

 

[notsuperstitious]

No you seperated based on religion....NOT ethnicity or regionalism....So give it a rest....

And I can assure you that IVC had nothing to do with Islam....which is what Pakistan as a state is based on....

So calling IVC a Pakistani civilization is a logical fallacy....

Again...No one person can put a claim on history especially when the land has linked so many people over millenia....

Heh heh, so Pakistan separated based on indus valley civilisation!! LOL, thats absolutely precious, even for this broken record. I always knew the basis was intolerance of the minority, but since that intolerance has started consuming the nation, maybe its their new ideology in the making - rerwite the history, then claim it and use it for more intolerance!

And this guy may be a closet Pashupati worshipper, for all we know!

That was a gem!

 

[Rafi]

Now we know where this inferiority complex comes from.

 

[Shak_ed]

Pakicetus is a genus of extinct terrestrial carnivorous mammal of the family Pakicetidae which was endemic to Pakistan from the Eocene (55.8 ± 0.2—40 ± 0.1 Ma). Pakicetus existed for approximately 15.8 million years.[1] Many paleontologists regard it as a close relative to the direct ancestors of modern day whales.

The ancient ancestor of modern whales, lived in Ancient Pakistan, and this is why the animal is named, it lived millions of years ago.

You Pakistani have tendency to be proud of almost anything

 

[Major Ram]

Pakicetus is a genus of extinct terrestrial carnivorous mammal of the family Pakicetidae which was endemic to Pakistan from the Eocene (55.8 ± 0.2—40 ± 0.1 Ma). Pakicetus existed for approximately 15.8 million years.[1] Many paleontologists regard it as a close relative to the direct ancestors of modern day whales.

The ancient ancestor of modern whales, lived in Ancient Pakistan, and this is why the animal is named, it lived millions of years ago.

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I am a proud Pakistani Punjabi Jatt with no connection to the entity to the east.

So as per your logic, Dog is named Dog because he's from ancient Dogistan?? lol

you're amazing

 

[Rafi]

Heh heh, so Pakistan separated based on indus valley civilisation!! LOL, thats absolutely precious, even for this broken record.

And this guy may be a closet Pashupati worshipper, for all we know!

That was a gem, the desperation for an identity if funny!

I find it funnier, that indians would try to bag the glory of another people's civilization.

 

[SpArK]

Ancient Pakistan?

In case you don't know, there was no Pakistan before 1947... It was India everywhere..lol

Anyways, That's what expected from you so its not actually your fault.

Culture wise, tradition wise, practices wise there is nothing remaining that is reminiscent from the great IVC, today in Pakistan.

While the people started the IVC journey from present day Pakistan along the Indus river all the way to part of Gujaratand other parts and moved all along the subcontinent, these ones claim it is ours without using much common sense.

Civilization is not a place, its the practices along with the people involved and wherever these ones go civilization flourishes. That too in an age of no boundaries and nomadic lives.

So let these ones claim it, with out knowing or understanding what it is, atleast in this "forum".

There is no point in debating otherwise when even if convinced a thousand times, cannot be grasped due to deniability issues of the senses , basically associated with malfunctioning of the vital organ inside the skull.

 

[Rafi]

You Pakistani have tendency to be proud of almost anything

We are proud of our land, our culture, our people

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So as per your logic, Dog is named Dog because he's from ancient Dogistan?? lol

you're amazing

It is named after our land, where it lived all those thousands of centuries ago.

 

[Rafi]

Culture wise, tradition wise, practices wise there is nothing remaining that is reminiscent from the great IVC, today in Pakistan.

While the people started the IVC journey from present day Pakistan along the Indus river all the way to part of Gujaratand other parts and moved all along the subcontinent, these ones claim it is ours without using much common sense.

Civilization is not a place, its the practices along with the people involved and wherever these ones go civilization flourishes. That too in an age of no boundaries and nomadic lives.

So let these ones claim it, with out knowing or understanding what it is, atleast in this "forum".

There is no point in debating otherwise when even if convinced a thousand times, cannot be grasped due to deniability issues of the senses , basically associated with malfunctioning of the vital organ inside the skull.

DNA has proved that the people living in Pakistan are the direct descendants of the people who lived in the great cities of the Indus Valley Civilization, hence they are our forefathers and nothing to do with india.

 

[SpArK]

DNA has proved that the people living in Pakistan are the direct descendants of the people who lived in the great cities of the Indus Valley Civilization, hence they are our forefathers and nothing to do with india.

DNA can prove all are same since u believe in a religion where it says mankind started from adam.

Do u deny that too?

 

[Shak_ed]

We are proud of our land, our culture, our people

which culture? the one influenced by India or the one influenced by Arab ?? there is nothing called Pakistani culture, half of your people follow Indian culture and half Arab culture.

 

[Rafi]

DNA can prove all are same since u believe in a religion where it says mankind started from adam.

Do u deny that too?

I am a believer in "Intelligent Evolution" which is perfectly compatible with my religion, and I do believe Adam was a real person. And that the IVC is our peoples birthright.