Dubai police chief compares 'disciplined Indians' to Pakistanis

[SQ8]

Based on that argument, if God forbid Holly Kabah is under attack, and Pakistan is busy fighting TTP, Turkey is fighting Kurds in Syria then we all should mind our own business and let Allah take care of it? Is that correct?

That is correct. Per everything clearly indicated in the Quran, there is no perpgative to worry about the Kaaba besides it’s cleanliness.

It has been destroyed by Allah before with floods and protected by him, not our responsibility.

If tomorrow a nuclear weapon lands right on the Kaaba, Islam will not stop. People will still need to face the Kaaba. The Kaaba is a focal point for us to align our worship at, not a stone monumnet for us to worship.

 

[Saif-ud-Din Qutuz]

No. I am just using the English Terminology. Should I have written: "Love of Saudi makes one from Bani Israel"?
Come. Please. Use reason in your argumentation. Refrain from ad hominems.

I gave you reasons, facts and logics. You're exposed dude. totally exposed. Your point of view is pathetic.

 

[TMA]

Yes, they used us and financed our Nukes, supported us ground to up. Iran is better which named Pakistan for nuclear proliferation when we helped them develop nukes, CORRECT????

Whilst Iran is no friend to Pakistan, she is a neighbour. Also Iran is not occupying the Holy sites, If she were I would be speaking out against them. I know some will say that Iran WANTS to occupy them...that may be true but as of yet she does not.

KSA is no friend to Pakistan and neither to whatever remains of the Ummah. She will one day return to the garbage bin of history.

 

[SQ8]

In reality, after Allah.. Kabba is protected by the govt. of Saudi Arabia for more than century... i hope it will remain protected.

If you think the Saudis protect Kaaba then you need to examine history and religous texts.

 

[Saif-ud-Din Qutuz]

That House has been under attack for the last 70 to 80 years...what has Pakistan being doing? (Granted Pakistan came into existence after KSA).
One cannot help another, when he is sick and debilitated. Even if ones wants to. It would be foolish. Now if you are so keen on protecting the Holy sites (and I am not speaking to you as an individual as an individual one can volunteer to go and help) you ought to strengthen Pakistan, make her economy run as per Islamic standards, pay off her debts, develop a Blue water Navy, be energy independent etc etc...

Until that isn't done, we should sit like Bani israel sat down and didn't do what Allah ordered them? Right???

 

[SQ8]

Whilst Iran is no friend to Pakistan, she is a neighbour. Also Iran is not occupying the Holy sites, If she were I would be speaking out against them. I know some will say that Iran WANTS to occupy them...that may be true but as of yet she does not.

KSA is no friend to Pakistan and neither to whatever remains of the Ummah. She will one day return to the garbage bin of history.

Iran( in their current form) has financed attempts to create dischord in the harem and medina.
The Saud are no angels either, and have destroyed Muslim culture and intellectual thought in their attempt to fight the Iranians; but the initial damage was already done by abdul wahabb and his followers.

What is done is history, today the issue isn’t the holy sites as much as whatever remains of the Gulf oil fields and which bloc(Iran-Russia or Saudi-USA) controls them.

 

[Saif-ud-Din Qutuz]

Whilst Iran is no friend to Pakistan, she is a neighbour. Also Iran is not occupying the Holy sites, If she were I would be speaking out against them. I know some will say that Iran WANTS to occupy them...that may be true but as of yet she does not.
KSA is no friend to Pakistan and neither to whatever remains of the Ummah. She will one day return to the garbage bin of history.

They financed retarded people to attack the Holly Kabah who were from within Saudi Arabia. They've been doing it, they have been trying to liberate Holly Kabah from Saudis. That makes you one of them because its your wish as well.

 

[TMA]

I gave you reasons, facts and logics. You're exposed dude. totally exposed. Your point of view is pathetic.

No. I was trying to show you that using insults like the one you used on me by saying "Undoubtedly, love of Iran makes a person so much like Bani Israels", can be returned to the sender, hence my retort "Love of Saudi makes one from the Children of Israel".

This comment was not meant to be a reasoned argument but a return to expose your insult. But perhaps it is better that I do not resort to such...

 

[BATMAN]

If you think the Saudis protect Kaaba then you need to examine history and religous texts.

i just stated the ground reality, without examining any sort of text.

 

[TMA]

They financed retarded people to attack the Holly Kabah who were from within Saudi Arabia. They've been doing it, they have been trying to liberate Holly Kabah from Saudis. That makes you one of them because its your wish as well.

No. I wish for the Arabs of Hejaz to lead this liberation. Should Iran ever try to send her armies I would be against it manifestly!

 

[Saif-ud-Din Qutuz]

That is correct. Per everything clearly indicated in the Quran, there is no perpgative to worry about the Kaaba besides it’s cleanliness.
It has been destroyed by Allah before with floods and protected by him, not our responsibility.
If tomorrow a nuclear weapon lands right on the Kaaba, Islam will not stop. People will still need to face the Kaaba. The Kaaba is a focal point for us to align our worship at, not a stone monumnet for us to worship.

Wow! Surprised, yes Allah will protect both Holly Quran and the Holly Kabah but how can we sit and relax in a situation when its under attack? What Muslim would want to do it? I can't understand that.

No. I was trying to show you that using insults like the one you used on me by saying "Undoubtedly, love of Iran makes a person so much like Bani Israels", can be returned to the sender, hence my retort "Love of Saudi makes one from the Children of Israel".

Which doesn't make any sense at all. You used one more tactic, Oscar knows it.

 

[TMA]

Iran( in their current form) has financed attempts to create dischord in the harem and medina.
The Saud are no angels either, and have destroyed Muslim culture and intellectual thought in their attempt to fight the Iranians; but the initial damage was already done by abdul wahabb and his followers.

What is done is history, today the issue isn’t the holy sites as much as whatever remains of the Gulf oil fields and which bloc(Iran-Russia or Saudi-USA) controls them.

True. Abdul Wahab did some serious damage. Muslims have yet to recover from it....

 

[Saif-ud-Din Qutuz]

This comment was not meant to be a reasoned argument but a return to expose your insult. But perhaps it is better that I do not resort to such...

Well, the fact and the reality is, I outwitted you and stunned you by that verse. If I was a in your shoe, in that situation, I would be embarrassed and take my words back. I would have said I'll all up for sacrificing my life for Holly Kabah, YES, Holly Kabah not for house of Sauds, of course.
Your argument is exactly what was the argument was Bani Israel. If still you don't feel ashamed, I won't insist on it.

 

[SQ8]

Wow! Surprised, yes Allah will protect both Holly Quran and the Holly Kabah but how can we sit and relax in a situation when its under attack? What Muslim would want to do it? I can't understand that.


Which doesn't make any sense at all. You used one more tactic, Oscar knows it.

We can relax, either you have belief that the Quran is true and Allah is everything and supreme or you don’t.

If you are unable to leave the matter which Allah has clearly stated is his to
Him, do you even truly have faith? That is the question we need to ask.

If we have done a task, completed our section of the work.. and then say we leave to Allah but still worry, then we are essentially liars.

Here is something he is stating in the Quran that it is his house and he will take care of it or destroy it. The floods that damaged the Kaaba which required its rebuilding; you think that was an accudent? Or did Allah not plan that the Prophet’s example of settling the dispute of Hajr-e-Aswad’s planting be done so that his reputation be solidified??

Tawakul keejiye.

Yes.. Medina is OUR responsibility. It is our prophet’s house and we are his bearers. What the Saud have done there in the name of removing bidah and graves while giving away those areas for more hotels and commercialization is inexcusable.

 

[Saif-ud-Din Qutuz]

Should Iran ever try to send her armies I would be against it manifestly!

That's all I wanted to hear. The other part you keep insisting on liberation liberation liberation isn't making sense. Why you want Holly Kabah liberated from muslims???