Drinking liqour is not Haram - Federal Shariat Court

[BATMAN]

So far............ no reference from Quran!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shall i assume hadith is in conflict with Quran? !!!!

If you have brains than stop searching your answers in Hadith without referring to Quran.

Fact is that smoking one pack of cigarette is much more injurious to health than having one peg of wine.

How do you weigh this fact in light of Quran and prevailing social laws????????????

I tell you one easy way.... take a PDF Quran and search for key words... i.e. 'Haram'

Remember 99% of all Hadith Mullahs in Pakistan are product of foreign intelligence agencies.

Recognize your enemies....... recognize who want to eliminate your generation........... 'in ki nasal ko khatam kardo' !!!!!!

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

while i know why drinking is ''bad'' --- i dont think it ever would make sense to issue physical threats to people over partaking in such activity

if people wanna drink, let them....they dont, they dont....

let God be the final judge...

 

[somebozo]

When Baghdad was being sacked by Halaku, the scholars were busy discussing if Jabriel could pass through needle eye.
or
Nero was playing flute as Rome was burning.

 

[sur]

So far............ no reference from Quran!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shall i assume hadith is in conflict with Quran? !!!! You wish !!!

If you have brains than stop searching your answers in Hadith without referring to Quran.

Fact is that smoking one pack of cigarette is much more injurious to health than having one peg of wine.
...

As I said before at least twice, you can chose to kill urself & ur family who inhale ur smoke, for all anyone cares,,,
But when something affects society THEN it becomes a matter where coersion is justified ...

& as to ur picking contradiction b/w hadees & Quran...:-

Q:5:91:-
اے لوگو جو ایمان لائے ہو، یہ شراب اور جوا اور یہ آستانے اور پانسے، یہ سب گندے شیطانی کام ہیں، ان سے پرہیز کرو، امید ہے کہ تمہیں فلاح نصیب ہوگی (٩&#1632 شیطان تو یہ چاہتا ہے کہ شراب اور جوئے کے ذریعہ سے تمہارے درمیان عداوت اور بغض ڈال دے اور تمہیں خدا کی یاد سے اور نماز سے روک دے پھر کیا تم ان چیزوں سے باز رہو گے؟ (٩&#1633

2:219:-
پوچھتے ہیں: شراب اور جوئے کا کیا حکم ہے؟ کہو: ان دونوں چیزوں میں بڑی خرابی ہے اگرچہ ان میں لوگوں کے لیے کچھ منافع بھی ہیں، مگر ان کا گناہ اُن کے فائدے سے بہت زیادہ ہے

 

[VCheng]

As I said before at least twice, you can chose to kill urself & ur family who inhale ur smoke, for all anyone cares,,,
But when something affects society THEN it becomes a matter where coersion is justified ...

& as to ur picking contradiction b/w hadees & Quran...:-

Q:5:91:-
اے لوگو جو ایمان لائے ہو، یہ شراب اور جوا اور یہ آستانے اور پانسے، یہ سب گندے شیطانی کام ہیں، ان سے پرہیز کرو، امید ہے کہ تمہیں فلاح نصیب ہوگی (٩&#1632 شیطان تو یہ چاہتا ہے کہ شراب اور جوئے کے ذریعہ سے تمہارے درمیان عداوت اور بغض ڈال دے اور تمہیں خدا کی یاد سے اور نماز سے روک دے پھر کیا تم ان چیزوں سے باز رہو گے؟ (٩&#1633

2:219:-
پوچھتے ہیں: شراب اور جوئے کا کیا حکم ہے؟ کہو: ان دونوں چیزوں میں بڑی خرابی ہے اگرچہ ان میں لوگوں کے لیے کچھ منافع بھی ہیں، مگر ان کا گناہ اُن کے فائدے سے بہت زیادہ ہے

Is there a difference between "parhaiz kero" (to avoid) and "mana he" (forbidden)?

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Drinking Alcohol is HARAM ... end of story

A Fatwa?

No reasoning necessary?

 

[Imran Khan]

Even the alcohol is regarded as Najis.... like urine, semen, potty etc.

yuuuuuuukkkkkk damn you destroy it .it was our soft drink dear . now with every bottle buy cardamom too lolz

 

[BATMAN]

Is there a difference between "parhaiz kero" (to avoid) and "mana he" (forbidden)?

Bribery is forbidden clearly, profiteering is forbidden clearly, hoarding is forbidden clearly and much more than what you described above.

 

[sur]

Is there a difference between "parhaiz kero" (to avoid) and "mana he" (forbidden)?

Yes there IS a defference ... But again Alcohol is well known carcinogen, state can chose to ban it for medical reasons as well, & as said before to protect society from incidences of traffic accidents, rape, murders...

& then "Shaitaanee Kaaam".... !!!

 

[VCheng]

Yes there IS a defference ... But again Alcohol is well known carcinogen, state can chose to ban it for medical reasons as well, & as said before to protect society from incidences of traffic accidents, rape, murders...

So it is "not banned" by the Quran, but advisable to "avoid it (in excess)"?

 

[BATMAN]

As I said before at least twice, you can chose to kill urself & ur family who inhale ur smoke, for all anyone cares,,,
But when something affects society THEN it becomes a matter where coersion is justified ...

& as to ur picking contradiction b/w hadees & Quran...:-

Q:5:91:-
اے لوگو جو ایمان لائے ہو، یہ شراب اور جوا اور یہ آستانے اور پانسے، یہ سب گندے شیطانی کام ہیں، ان سے پرہیز کرو، امید ہے کہ تمہیں فلاح نصیب ہوگی (٩&#1632 شیطان تو یہ چاہتا ہے کہ شراب اور جوئے کے ذریعہ سے تمہارے درمیان عداوت اور بغض ڈال دے اور تمہیں خدا کی یاد سے اور نماز سے روک دے پھر کیا تم ان چیزوں سے باز رہو گے؟ (٩&#1633

2:219:-
پوچھتے ہیں: شراب اور جوئے کا کیا حکم ہے؟ کہو: ان دونوں چیزوں میں بڑی خرابی ہے اگرچہ ان میں لوگوں کے لیے کچھ منافع بھی ہیں، مگر ان کا گناہ اُن کے فائدے سے بہت زیادہ ہے

Is smoking Halal???? I need to reconfirm your quotes ... so give me clear references. Chapter and verse....

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Yes there IS a defference ... But again Alcohol is well known carcinogen, state can chose to ban it for medical reasons as well, & as said before to protect society from incidences of traffic accidents, rape, murders...

Smog, fog and pollution is also harmful to society.

So can it be banned?

 

[BATMAN]

A Fatwa?

No reasoning necessary?

You seemed to be more concerned about Fatwas but i can understand your ignorance...

 

[sur]

Is smoking Halal???? I need to reconfirm your quotes ... so give me clear references. Chapter and verse....

they r there 5:91 & 2:219...!!!

Smog, fog and pollution is also harmful to society.

So can it be banned?

go ahead ban them in india...

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

You seemed to be more concerned about Fatwas but i can understand your ignorance...

I am.

Because it is a diktat.

Wiki states

According to the usul al-fiqh (principles of jurisprudence), the fatwā must meet the following conditions in order to be valid:

The fatwā is in line with relevant legal proofs, deduced from Qur'anic verses and ahadith; provided the hadith was not later abrogated by Muhammad.
It is issued by a person (or a board) having due knowledge and sincerity of heart;
It is free from individual opportunism, and not depending on political servitude;
It is adequate with the needs of the contemporary world.

Therefore, I was wondering if the poster has considered the same before foreclosing any options.