Featured DRDO has successfully flight-tested Supersonic Missile assisted release of Torpedo (SMART)

[TheSnakeEatingMarkhur]

Take a good look at the following graphic:

There are different methods to detect submarines while submerged:

1. Multi-mode radar
2. Sonobuoys
3. MAD

You are alluding to ASW range of OPTION # 1 but overlooking other sensor systems in your calculus - ASW range and capacity is DYNAMIC and shaped by employment tactics for the needful.

How Sonobuoys work?

Just one P8I can deploy over 100 Sonobuoys for the needful.

NUMBERS GAME

Indian Navy P8I fleet strength in the present = 8

They are receiving 4 more in this year.

Multiple aircraft = ASW mission made possible on a much wider scale and capacity with exchange of information in the mix.

USN Factor

Should Indian Navy feel that its ASW missions are being constrained by Pakistan Navy through relevant countermeasures and tactics, Indian Navy can reach out to USN to facilitate its ASW missions (COMCASA). Imagine this.

It is a capable threat but not that much of a threat especially after PN pulling of under the nose of IN many times...

 

[LeGenD]

It is a capable threat but not that much of a threat especially after PN pulling of under the nose of IN many times...

WE cannot be sure about that.

Real challenges will surface when a MAJOR CONFLICT will materialize and ASW missions will be in full-swing (God forbid).

 

[Osiris]

It took india 21 days to track PNS Saad in 2019 and by the time they found it.. it was in western waters of Pakistan so how effective is it ?...

It took 21 days because your submarine was sent into hiding near Iran border(after Balakot Strikes)..to preserve it ..in case Indian navy attacks. PNS SAAD was nowhere close to any of its potential targets.

Mind you, Indian navy knew the exact location of every other PN surface combatant and submarine through out the tensions.

 

[rent4country]

It is a capable threat but not that much of a threat especially after PN pulling of under the nose of IN many times...

That's a pretty bold assumption, especially since none of your submarines have any stealth features like the Russian do .

Add to the P8I are the new MH60R India signed a deal for. I think for 24 of them.

 

[TheSnakeEatingMarkhur]

It took 21 days because your submarine was sent into hiding near Iran border(after Balakot Strikes)..to preserve it ..in case Indian navy attacks. PNS SAAD was nowhere close to any of its potential targets.

Mind you, Indian navy knew the exact location of every other PN surface combatant and submarine through out the tensions.

It went missing from Karachi port... was seen in indian waters and then went missing and was on western side...

 

[TheSnakeEatingMarkhur]

That's a pretty bold assumption, especially since none of your submarines have any stealth features like the Russian do .

Add to the P8I are the new MH60R India signed a deal for. I think for 24 of them.

Not a bold assumption in 1971 war our sub was right under Indian warship and they had no idea... it was only after whole fleet passed above it and was away that they knew there was a Sub there which sent info to Navy Headquarters about their movement towards Pakistan... and even when they sent 2 ships one was sunked and other ran away and 3 days of extensive search they found nothing... it got away and in 2019 PNS Saad wen into Indian waters and made indians search for it for 21 days while it moved near Iran...

 

[rent4country]

Not a bold assumption in 1971 war our sub was right under Indian warship and they had no idea... it was only after whole fleet passed above it and was away that they knew there was a Sub there which sent info to Navy Headquarters about their movement towards Pakistan... and even when they sent 2 ships one was sunked and other ran away and 3 days of extensive search they found nothing... it got away and in 2019 PNS Saad wen into Indian waters and made indians search for it for 21 days while it moved near Iran...

I was talking about actual capabilities with P8I and MH60R in the inventory and your assumption of them being no big deal for your subs.

 

[TheSnakeEatingMarkhur]

I was talking about actual capabilities with P8I and MH60R in the inventory and your assumption of them being no big deal for your subs.

P8i is potent asset for india no doubt but I doubt capability of indians themselves tbh

 

[FuturePAF]

You speak of resources, which are beyond the reach of Pakistan Navy.

A Navy which has zero destroyers and has never operated a real destroyer(just frigates, reclassified as destroyers) certainly can not deploy 6 of them to protect its submarines.

Besides has type 52 D ever been able shoot down a hypersonic quassi ballistic missile ?

Pakistan currently does not operate VLS Frigates but the acquisition process is underway. The introduction of these ships will allow the PN to expand the scope of its operations. The Pakistan navy is an evolving force which, within its acknowledged limited budget, is supporting the doctrine given to it by the nation.

Pakistan may not operate Destroyers at present, but as the threat and economic capacity of the nation allows going forward, the navy will acquire what it will to deal with any threat facing the nation. Should the nation require a boomer force, it will also find ways to protect it.

The Type 052D destroyer should not be judged based on the weapons it currently holds (in its standard fleet deployment) but by what it could fit into its VLS tubes if the requirement were given to It based on the dimensions of the VLS tube. For example the HQ-19 a development of the HQ-9, could in theory be put in those VLS tubes.

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[Osiris]

It went missing from Karachi port... was seen in indian waters and then went missing and was on western side...

No it was not seen in Indian waters. It was seen in Karachi port ..from where it slipped away at night and was then seen near Iran border.

 

[Kabotar]

Do you have any evidence of that?

No it was not seen in Indian waters. It was seen in Karachi port ..from where it slipped away at night and was then seen near Iran border.

 

[Osiris]

Do you have any evidence of that?

Yes I have evidence, it was not seen in Indian waters.

It was only seen in Karachi and the west coast of Pakistan near Iran.

 

[lcloo]

What type of supersonic ship based missile is capable of flying 650km while carrying a half ton light weight torpedo plus extra weight for torpedo housing? Current Brahmos doesn't fit in.

And why is the narrative saying 650km while the diagram shows "Up to 24km"? Torpedo range is stated as 11km while under water.

 

[TheSnakeEatingMarkhur]

No it was not seen in Indian waters. It was seen in Karachi port ..from where it slipped away at night and was then seen near Iran border.

It was in indian waters for time being and 21 days is a long time for a sub to be stationary...

 

[Osiris]

What type of supersonic ship based missile is capable of flying 650km while carrying a half ton light weight torpedo plus extra weight for torpedo housing? Current Brahmos doesn't fit in.

And why is the narrative saying 650km while the diagram shows "Up to 24km"? Torpedo range is stated as 11km while under water.

This one.

The Diagram is not for this missile. It has been picked by some one from the internet ..for similar type of missile.

In major breakthrough, India successfully tests supersonic missile-assisted release of torpedo

BHUBANESWAR: In a major technological breakthrough, India on Monday successfully tested the Supersonic Missile Assisted Release of Torpedo (SMART) system for th

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SMART is a hybrid missile that incorporates technologies of two different weapon systems making it faster and stealthier. With this, India has got an anti-submarine weapon having much higher range. While the long range torpedo available in the world is around 50 km and rocket-assisted torpedoes can strike at a range of 150 km, the SMART will have a range of over 600 km.