Dr. Amir Liaqat gets a Pakistani killed!

[Wolfhound]

We are so insecure in our faith that we need to have draconian anti-Ahmadi and Blasphemy laws and kill those who don't agree with our version of the faith.

There is only one version of islam. The scets only differentiate about the history of the caliphs not islam true being.

You ARE preaching hatred - you are not Allah, you have NO RIGHT OR AUTHORITY to pass judgment on ANYONE's faith.

Defend your beliefs academically, through discourse, and not by supporting anti-Ahmadi and Blasphemy laws that promote violence, hatred and intolerance in society.

Why do you give a shite whether someone 'knows a lot about Islam or not'? It is none of your or the State's business. Allah will judge everyone at the End of Days and is the ONLY one who can pass judgement on someone's faith.

You are right i am not allah and i have no right but i cant call something that is not part of my faith a part of it.Get it?

You are right thats why i am asking them to accept the truth so that they wont come under any law and will be allowed to practice their religion freely.

I dont give a shite but he was saying a wrong thing about my religion so i had to correct him.

Stop adding your nonsense in to the 6 articles of faith. Now where in the Hadith regarding the six articles of faith is it mentioned that the belief in last is also a condition. You are welcome to discuss everything else you want, but stop adding the word last in the 6 articles of faith. You might fool some sarkari muslims but I do have an understanding of basic Arabic.

I haven't added anything of my own to it . The sixth article has been changed since a long time you can check it out on any islamic website(no ahmedi web site)

His name is Mirza Masroor Ahmad you dumb! Research and get illam by yourself and stop listening to your molvies. As I told you in start this type of debates prohibited here in PDF. Don't quote me again, Allah tumhen hadaiet dain.

Apparently i dont give a shite about the spelling of his name. I am a staunch oppressor of molvis and generally dont like them. I did not know that it is prohibited and as of right now i am only giving replies.

Believe in that all you want, but that is your personal belief and that does not change the fact that the Pakistani State has passed degenerate and hate-mongering laws against Ahmadis that do not recognize them as Muslims and treat them as second class citizens.

Ahmadis should be recognized by the State as Muslims because that is what they claim to be, and we have no right to punish them for their beliefs.

Ahmedis should not be treated as second class citizens . The thing is its only a claim. There wont be any punishment if they just accept. We cant have people pretending to be muslims and portraying their own beliefs through our face, its just like having your account hacked

 

[karakoram]

Bongiyan aapne mari hai, Because there is only one difference between ahmadi beliefs and your beliefs regarding this matter.

As for studying religion, unlike the sarkari Muslims we are encouraged to study all religions and beliefs.

O chacha jee there are many differences butween you and us. I love to go in details but forum rules restrain me. So i can say one thing May Allah give you hidayah and show you the right path and you pray for me the same. Qayamat wale din pata chal jaye ga mein thek hon ya ap hom

 

[Rafi]

All those advocating violence for anyone of whatever religion, caste or creed, should be hung by his balls - death to takfiri of all sorts.

 

[PakGuns]

Such ignorant people say that business with Jews and Christians is allowed but not with Shias and Qadiyani. I would be grateful if they show us some strong proof of that.

You need proof on such mullahism by more Mulls such intelligence wow ? C'mon put them in ignore and bash list... Just it...

 

[Rain]

we heard that govt banned hate speeches then wht the hell was happened in AL show and what the hell happens in Lal Masjid.

Govt is run by fools. law had acted on time many lives whould have been saved.

 

[Mav3rick]

Ah well........we don't have any shortage of our Modi's!!

And this turd blamed the Ahmedis for the Peshawar massacre!! They're making a joke out of the pogrom. This is plain ridiculous!

This is what happens when a nation state becomes a theocracy. Thanks to Zia who started this all. Whatever happened to the 'modern Pakistan' that the Quaid wanted?

A typical Indian speaks typical nonsense. I am beginning to wish that all Indians be banned on the forum so that we get rid of the 80% garbage and BS that is posted on this forum!

 

[Pakistani E]

There is only one version of islam. The scets only differentiate about the history of the caliphs not islam true being.


You are right i am not allah and i have no right but i cant call something that is not part of my faith a part of it.Get it?

You are right thats why i am asking them to accept the truth so that they wont come under any law and will be allowed to practice their religion freely.

I dont give a shite but he was saying a wrong thing about my religion so i had to correct him.


I haven't added anything of my own to it . The sixth article has been changed since a long time you can check it out on any islamic website(no ahmedi web site)


Apparently i dont give a shite about the spelling of his name. I am a staunch oppressor of molvis and generally dont like them. I did not know that it is prohibited and as of right now i am only giving replies.


Ahmedis should not be treated as second class citizens . The thing is its only a claim. There wont be any punishment if they just accept. We cant have people pretending to be muslims and portraying their own beliefs through our face, its just like having your account hacked

So you accept you've changed the six articles of faith just to spite Ahmadis? erm Ok.

O chacha jee there are many differences butween you and us. I love to go in details but forum rules restrain me. So i can say one thing May Allah give you hidayah and show you the right path and you pray for me the same. Qayamat wale din pata chal jaye ga mein thek hon ya ap hom

Chacha jee na kaho, abhi to bachay hai hun.

 

[Wolfhound]

So you accept you've changed the six articles of faith just to spite Ahmadis? erm Ok.

firstly i havent changed the sixth article . Secondly how does it spite ahmadis

 

[wolfschanzze]

The threat is "insecure, petty, intolerant and hate-mongering Muslims" in Pakistan.

We are so insecure in our faith that we need to have draconian anti-Ahmadi and Blasphemy laws and kill those who don't agree with our version of the faith.

Thats bad as long as they dont bother you, people should mind their own business,, if others dont bother you and keep to themselves then there is no problem.They live in their own world ,you live in yours.Simple.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Not my persobal belief, i have a state, Quran, and hadiths to Back me. So wrong is qadiyanis call them Muslims, since they are not.

Second Part i do agree, they shouldnt be treated as second class citizen, if follow the Law. All corrupt politicians, generals, criminals are who ever go against law should be dealt with Law. Nothing more nothing less. This is equality.

You have every right to believe they are not Muslims and not call them Muslims, but you do not have the right to force them to accept your beliefs or impose your views upon them, which is exactly what the anti-Ahmadi laws do. If you agree that the anti-Ahmadi laws should be abolished and that Ahmadis should be recognized by the State as Muslims (which is what Ahmadis want), then our respective positions may be largely in alignment.

BTW, ISIS, the TTP and various other Islamic terrorist/extremist groups use the same argument you did to support their campaigns of child rape and massacres of innocent Shia, Kurds, Yazidis and even other Sunnis, that 'they have the Quran and hadith backing their policies' . Keep your 'personal beliefs backed by the Quran and hadith' to yourself please, and the State needs to do the same and abolish the degenerate anti-Ahmadi and Blasphemy laws and focus only on regulating and punishing people for tangible and material actions.

 

[XenoEnsi-14]

@Wolfhound , would you think it would be ok for a sunni/shia to come to your house and command you to accept that you are not a Muslim or face an execution?

After all, they believe they are right the same way you and Ahmadis believe themselves to be right. How can they all be right, but some can not declare who is wrong?

 

[Wolfhound]

@Wolfhound , would you think it would be ok for a sunni/shia to come to your house and command you to accept that you are not a Muslim or face an execution?

After all, they believe they are right the same way you and Ahmadis believe themselves to be right. How can they all be right, but some can not declare who is wrong?

Your question is wrong. The real question would be "would you think it would be ok for a sunni/shia to come to your house and show you the proof of you being a non muslim in the form of verses from the quran and the quran alone and fully explain to you how i you are wrong and have been led into the dark and ask you to either accept the true version of islam or accept that you are not a Muslim or face an execution?"
Now to this i would react in a positive manner because i would fully understand how and why i am wrong and how my version was corrupted and accept the true version of islam.

They do believe that they are right that is why they should be shown their wrong ways and the methods to correct them. All of the sects are not right but they all agree on the 6 articles of faith they just differ about minor things. But the thing is some didnt declare them as non muslims all of them(sects) did.

 

[Eurock]

why he is still on tv? he was caught red handed . even mubasher questioned him on various things including a fake degree. he is a real tharkee. he insulted people on his eid program. i mean, dont we have other anchors or what?

 

[XenoEnsi-14]

Your question is wrong. The real question would be "would you think it would be ok for a sunni/shia to come to your house and show you the proof of you being a non muslim in the form of verses from the quran and the quran alone and fully explain to you how i you are wrong and have been led into the dark and ask you to either accept the true version of islam or accept that you are not a Muslim or face an execution?"
Now to this i would react in a positive manner because i would fully understand how and why i am wrong and how my version was corrupted and accept the true version of islam.

They do believe that they are right that is why they should be shown their wrong ways and the methods to correct them. All of the sects are not right but they all agree on the 6 articles of faith they just differ about minor things. But the thing is some didnt declare them as non muslims all of them(sects) did.

That would mean that the Ahmadi Quran is different from the others, correct?

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

They do believe that they are right that is why they should be shown their wrong ways and the methods to correct them.

Then go and preach to them and/or engage their scholars in debate, and if they remain unconvinced, accept your failure as a civilized individual and go try and convince someone else.

Using the State (anti-Ahmadi & Blasphemy laws) or murderous mobs to attack them and treat them as second class citizens is nothing but cowardly and degenerate behavior, which is unfortunately what many Pakistanis appear to support at the current moment.