Double standards in fighting terror

[Solomon2]

This is quite funny Solomon that you posted this because last time I checked wasn't it Israel who was banning the call to prayer? LOL Talk about hating on Muslim minorities you hypocrite.

Then you checked wrong: the discussion isn't about banning the call-to-prayer but restricting the use of loudspeakers to do so, especially when non-Muslims are sleeping. Or did you know that already and merely resorted to the phony accusation to accuse me of being a hypocrite?

Obviously, this Zionist Yehudi has not read the PROTOCOLS OF THE ZIONIST ELDERS!

Of course I haven't read it. That forgery is the holy book of antisemites, not the Jews.

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

Then you checked wrong: the discussion isn't about banning the call-to-prayer but restricting the use of loudspeakers to do so, especially when non-Muslims are sleeping. Or did you know that already and merely resorted to the phony accusation to accuse me of being a hypocrite?

No it was a flat-out ban of the call to prayer.

You are directly limiting religious freedoms and should be a clear sign to the world that you are overstepping your limits.


I care not for non-Muslims sleeping if they have a problem then they can close the window, I find it hilarious how you bring up the discrimination of a Muslim minority despite the fact that you yourself are discriminating against muslims. It's hilarious how you Islamaphobe Zionists love to cover up your hypocrisy and bullshit.

If you agree with that ban then you need to shut up about how Pakistan treats its minorities.

 

[Daghalodi]

The author of the article is Pakistani and I did not write the title.

I did not say you wrote it but you did post it!!

So its kind of funny when you post stuff about double standards when your race is calling anyone anti semite who denies or challenges the figures of holocaust!

The west which claims to be the epitome of freedom as you claim has their own double standards which it needs to rectify and pull down the law stating denying holocaust is a crime

 

[Village life]

I wish the poster of the thread would have also said some thing obout the many so called developed countries who are banning Islam as religion ,the countries who are not allowing to wear viels,also about the countries who are saying that Islam can not be practiced in their lands ,why you are worried about minorities in Pakistan they are free to practice their religion here ,but what they can't do is this that they can't call themself muslim,if they really want to be Muslims they are more than welcome ,just make their believe in the last Prophet(PBH),If they don't then they are not forced to do so ,but just remain labelled as non Muslims ,what's wrong in admitting what you are,?

 

[Solomon2]

I did not say you wrote it but you did post it!!

So?

So its kind of funny when you post stuff about double standards when your race is calling anyone anti semite who denies or challenges the figures of holocaust!

Not a double standard. You are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

The west which claims to -

You know that by engaging in this Jew-bashing you're avoiding discussing Pakistan's own problems. And so we return to the question of why Pakistanis should put up with obstinate leaders who think this way.

I wish the poster of the thread would have also said some thing -

Because then it gives you an opening to cite the faults of others, rather than your own?

...why you are worried about minorities in Pakistan they are free to practice their religion here ,but what they can't do is this that they can't call themself muslim,

Their Ahmadi grandparents had the right to call themselves Muslim but they do not, even if they follow their grandparents' creed precisely. Jinnah and his immediate successors refused to impose any kind of religious restriction or non-Muslim label on Ahmadis, even when confronted by riots. Why should the Pakistan of today do so?

"If there is one thing which has been conclusively demonstrated in this inquiry, it is that provided you can persuade the masses to believe that something they are asked to do is religiously right or enjoined by religion, you can set them to any course of action, regardless of all considerations of discipline, loyalty, decency, morality or civic sense."

Conclusion of the Munir Report into the causes of the 1953 Lahore anti-Ahmadi riots.

 

[Daghalodi]

So?

Not a double standard. You are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

You know that by engaging in this Jew-bashing you're avoiding discussing Pakistan's own problems. And so we return to the question of why Pakistanis should put up with obstinate leaders who think this way.

Because then it gives you an opening to cite the faults of others, rather than your own?

Their Ahmadi grandparents had the right to call themselves Muslim but they do not, even if they follow their grandparents' creed precisely. Jinnah and his immediate successors refused to impose any kind of religious restriction or non-Muslim label on Ahmadis, even when confronted by riots. Why should the Pakistan of today do so?

"If there is one thing which has been conclusively demonstrated in this inquiry, it is that provided you can persuade the masses to believe that something they are asked to do is religiously right or enjoined by religion, you can set them to any course of action, regardless of all considerations of discipline, loyalty, decency, morality or civic sense."

Conclusion of the Munir Report into the causes of the 1953 Lahore anti-Ahmadi riots.

Why is it a jew bashing? What happenned to freedom of speech ? If the west can make cartoons why not make a cartoon of jewish rabbi as a nazi?

Tell you what pull down this law of denying holocuast a crime and pakistan will work on ahmedis ...

 

[Solomon2]

Why is it a jew bashing? What happenned to freedom of speech ?

Essentially, you're telling readers that their freedom to discuss the thread topic is to be be drowned out by ad hominem attacks and Israel-bashing.

Tell you what pull down this law of denying holocuast a crime and pakistan will work on ahmedis ...

Why would a Pakistan leader hold the well-being of Pakistanis hostage to what another state decides to do?

 

[Daghalodi]

Not a double standard. You are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts

If they are facts than why is it a crime to speak against the gas chambers of ashuwtiz and treblinka?

Essentially, you're telling readers that their freedom to discuss the thread topic is to be be drowned out by ad hominem attacks and Israel-bashing.

Why would a Pakistan leader hold the well-being of Pakistanis hostage to what another state decides to do?

Essentially im telling the readers that op who posted this article to discuss the thread live in a society that has their own double standards to freedom of speech example given denying holocuast a crime , even mentioning zyklon b can land you in jail.

Pakistan is just a state and has many a faults, we are a developing nation and going through alot where as developed nations like where you chose to live are full of double standards when it comes to freedom of speech

 

[Solomon2]

If they are facts than why is it a crime to speak against the gas chambers of ashuwtiz and treblinka?

The way this question is constructed ("speak against") admits multiple interpretations depending upon one's assumptions. And I think you are aware of this.

Essentially im telling the readers that op who posted this article to discuss the thread live in a society that has their own double standards -

Except that's been refuted; what you're doing now is re-stating your unproven thesis.

Furthermore, hypocrisy itself does not invalidate an argument. The classic example is a parent who smokes lecturing his children on the dangers of addiction to tobacco.

Pakistan is just a state and has many a faults, we are a developing nation and going through alot -

Did you ever ask yourself why Pakistan is still a "developing" nation? Sixty years ago South Korea was poorer than Pakistan was. Probably more corrupt, too. Yet South Korea is incomparably richer than Pakistan today, both materially and spiritually. Do you think the South Koreans achieved what they have by blaming others instead of addressing their own faults?

 

[Daghalodi]

The way this question is constructed ("speak against") admits multiple interpretations depending upon one's assumptions. And I think you are aware of this.

Its just a simple question, there are many documentaries out their that prove gas chamber of ashuwitz and treblink are nothing but hoax, even the number 6 million jews murdered is a cooked up story but its a crime to speak against it in western society yet you want pakistan to admit ahmedis as muslims.

The way this question is constructed ("speak against") admits multiple interpretations depending upon one's assumptions. And I think you are aware of this.

Except that's been refuted; what you're doing now is re-stating your unproven thesis.

Furthermore, hypocrisy itself does not invalidate an argument. The classic example is a parent who smokes lecturing his children on the dangers of addiction to tobacco.

Did you ever ask yourself why Pakistan is still a "developing" nation? Sixty years ago South Korea was poorer than Pakistan was. Probably more corrupt, too. Yet South Korea is incomparably richer than Pakistan today, both materially and spiritually. Do you think the South Koreans achieved what they have by blaming others instead of addressing their own faults?

Nothings being refuted ...zip zero, its no theory!!its a crime to speak or challenge the holocaust is a reality which you can not deny, pull this law down than we can speak about double standards

 

[Solomon2]

Its just a simple question, there are many documentaries out their that prove gas chamber of ashuwitz and treblink are nothing but hoax -

Nothings being refuted ...zip zero, its no theory!!its a crime to speak or challenge the holocaust is a reality which you can not deny, pull this law down than we can speak about double standards

In the U.S. it is not forbidden to engage in Holocaust Denial. That doesn't make such denial any more truthful.

And just because you won't admit to something being refuted, doesn't mean it hasn't been refuted.

The issue of why Pakistanis should listen to you rather than ignore you or give you the boot comes to the front once more.

 

[Daghalodi]

In the U.S. it is not forbidden to engage in Holocaust Denial. That doesn't make such denial any more truthful.

The issue of why Pakistanis should listen to you rather than ignore you or give you the boot comes to the front once more.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_against_Holocaust_denial

The same issue is why would zionist listen to you if you tell them to stop crying and begging for holocuast ( yes its a multi million dollar industry)

Just becuase you claim its been refuted doesnt mean its been refuted never was and never will be

 

[Solomon2]

Just becuase you claim its been refuted doesnt mean its been refuted never was and never will be

Of course you can mouth whatever you want. It doesn't mean there's any truth behind your voice, as opposed to the truth that's behind mine, since I can back up what I say with verifiable facts and accounts, whereas all you have is force - either of repetition, here, or of oppression, in Pakistan.

 

[Daghalodi]

Of course you can mouth whatever you want. It doesn't mean there's any truth behind your voice, as opposed to the truth that's behind mine, since I can back up what I say with verifiable facts and accounts, whereas all you have is force - either of repetition, here, or of oppression, in Pakistan.

Yeah yeah you have verifable evidences, where as the rest of us are just lunatics who dont believe your cooked up lies

Your ashkenazi brethen have yet to prove their dna comes from the true blood line of jewish from the middle east.

They have to learn hebrew because yiddish isnt jewish right.

I would be arrrested and sent to jail for saying this in the western civilization ..so much for freedomof speech and double standards

https://archive.org/details/Treblinka_Archaeology_Hoax

 

[ISI-1]

You're not responding to the article, so you don't know what you're agreeing to. You didn't read beyond the headline, did you?

A Zionist AskeNazi fake Yehudi ( East European Khazar belonging to the fake Zionist Yehud clan) wrote this article, a.k.a Soloman2! How dastardly deceptive, crafty and manipulative mischief maker - MM - he is. Soloman certainly continues the tradition of his corrupt and ungodly ancestors afloat.

Shame on you Soloman2! Who are you trying to deceive? We know that you and the Zionist clique are a force of evil. You are khanzeer, Dajjals rear end, deserving nothing but outright annihilation.

Of course you can mouth whatever you want. It doesn't mean there's any truth behind your voice, as opposed to the truth that's behind mine, since I can back up what I say with verifiable facts and accounts, whereas all you have is force - either of repetition, here, or of oppression, in Pakistan.

The only thing you can back up is your rear! Zionists are good at doing everything opposite to what is considered kosher and legitimate in the eyes of good normal jews, whom, I hasten to add, have become a minority, subjugated by the East European AshkeNazi Yehud, the Khazars, complete traitors and tyrannts, bent on causing mayhem and mischief on planet earth!

Then you checked wrong: the discussion isn't about banning the call-to-prayer but restricting the use of loudspeakers to do so, especially when non-Muslims are sleeping. Or did you know that already and merely resorted to the phony accusation to accuse me of being a hypocrite?

Of course I haven't read it. That forgery is the holy book of antisemites, not the Jews.

No one is antisemite. You said that. It's the heartless Zionists, the Khazars, AshkeNazi fake Jews of Eastern Europe, posing as Jews, who are at the heart of the problem.

And the PROTOCOLS OF THE ZIONIST ELDERS is not a forgery, but a fact, denied by the evil Zionists! It's self evident that what transpires in the minutes of the Zionists is manifesting the world over, particularly in the so called Western World, which is controlled by these greedy, power hungry, deceptive followers of Messiah ad-Dajjal, the anti-Christ!

But rest assured, your kind will be destroyed, that's why we have so much upheaval in the world, as good against evil battle has commenced and its final outcome is nothing short of a complete defeat of the Zionist fake Yehud, inshaALLAH.