Donald Trump turns the knife in, H-1B workers say deja vu

[nahtanbob]

Well there is nothing the US can do about it though. We can only accept this and move on ... ultimately the US is not some dictatorship/pariah state that would deport tens of millions of undocumented immigrants. Most of these people are still extremely hard working people and of course human beings.

USA can deport a lot of undocumented immigrants. It has the law enforcement capacity to do it in a efficient and humane way. Sorry even a lot of legal immigrants would support that. There is a reason Trump is still polling 45%.

Should we do that ? That is a different discussion

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Chinese OTOH is known for spreading pandemics. Go figure who is the nuisance.

They were considered as undesirable back then

And doesn't seem like it has changed much

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

By that same logic, US should have found that getting English speaking law abiding hard working educated middle class Indians to settle using H1B is FAR better than allowing Hispanics to take over the US.

Trump is not really targeting that "drop in the bucket". He is appealing to that racist in every white heart because he knows that is what is at the root of US.

Just saying.

H1-b actions has little to do with racism more to do with overall immigration

Immigration in US is causing the population to rise and USA is no need of immigration like Canada as it already has a large young population

Its similar case as populated countries such as India or China

Trump is just overt about h1b, tightening on h1b started from Obama's time itself

 

[Figaro]

H1-b actions has little to do with racism more to do with overall immigration

Immigration in US is causing the population to rise and USA is no need of immigration like Canada as it already has a large young population

Its similar case as populated countries such as India or China

Trump is just overt about h1b, tightening on h1b started from Obama's time itself

Everyone knows H1B these days is for extremely cheap Indian labor anyway . Considering Indian programmers only demanded 9 dollar per hour to write flight control software for the Boeing 737 MAX, you can see why this program is very popular .

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Everyone knows H1B these days is for extremely cheap Indian labor anyway . Considering Indian programmers only demanded 9 dollar per hour to write flight control software for the Boeing 737 MAX, you can see why this program is very popular .

74% of all H-1Bs are Indian.

Indians are not 74% of global non-US population, nor are they 74% of glonal non-US talent.

Why?

Why are they given so much freedom to bring a system worse than sharia law to the US?

 

[nahtanbob]

That is what you get for being a pawn on someone else chess board. Indians fail to comprehend that US is their competitor not their sugar daddy who will give them unlimited supply of lollipops. Indians were doing thousand times better when they weren't Canon Fodders for US. Now every other day is a new chapter of humiliation for Indians at the hands of yanks.

Thanks to USA, its economic policies India has not gone to the IMF. Pakistan makes their routine trips to the IMF, Saudi Arabia and China with a begging bowl.

 

[Pandora]

Thanks to USA, its economic policies India has not gone to the IMF. Pakistan makes their routine trips to the IMF, Saudi Arabia and China with a begging bowl.

LoL what have you got to do with Indian Economic policies. Your country has nearly 20 Trillion dollars in debt and you are saying you fixed Indian economy . FYI You Yanks owe 1.1 Trillion $ to China and 167 billion $ to Saudi Arabia. Your begging bowl is as big as your tongue. So i would advise you American numb skulls to not give lecture about Loans and Economy to others.

Pakistan has to make round trips of IMF bcz of your war in Afghanistan which caused irreparable damage to our economy. We lost nearly 100 billion dollars to your war and nearly 80000 Pakistanis lost their lives. You people can only $hit in other peoples backyards and then develop a habit of not cleaning up afterwards. I doubt you Yanks ever did anything other than making a mess wherever you went to fix. You couldnt even get Afghans on negotiation table and had to beg us to save your arse from Taliban. You Yanks talk big game but you are nothing more than snakes.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

If it is that easy there are tons of pakistanis working in Microsoft, Google, Intels of the world.
Either they must be incompetent or you must be clueless

You must be living in some other planet. Pakistanis are in fractions to the huge influx of Indians in western countries. You are either fool or deliberately ignoring the every generous support India has been getting from western establishments since 90s. Its was all part of strategy to raise India against China and also keep Pakistan on the backfoot. Didn't work out as it was planned though.

 

[nahtanbob]

LoL what have you got to do with Indian Economic policies. Your country has nearly 20 Trillion dollars in debt and you are saying you fixed Indian economy . FYI You Yanks owe 1.1 Trillion $ to China and 167 billion $ to Saudi Arabia. Your begging bowl is as big as your tongue. So i would advise you American numb skulls to not give lecture about Loans and Economy to others.

Pakistan has to make round trips of IMF bcz of your war in Afghanistan which caused irreparable damage to our economy. We lost nearly 100 billion dollars to your war and nearly 80000 Pakistanis lost their lives. You people can only $hit in other peoples backyards and then develop a habit of not cleaning up afterwards. I doubt you Yanks ever did anything other than making a mess wherever you went to fix. You couldnt even get Afghans on negotiation table and had to beg us to save your arse from Taliban. You Yanks talk big game but you are nothing more than snakes.

at the end of the day if I issue 1 million green cards at Islamabad you will have a riot

Pakistan's problems are doings of the pakistani elite. spare me this BS

You must be living in some other planet. Pakistanis are in fractions to the huge influx of Indians in western countries.

at least Pakistan would have gotten a fraction of the outsourcing boom

everything said - this is not a f**king quota system

 

[Pandora]

at the end of the day if I issue 1 million green cards at Islamabad you will have a riot

Pakistan's problems are doings of the pakistani elite. spare me this BS

At the end of the day you people cant even end your own unemployment yet dream about handing over 1 million green cards. You might as shove those million green cards up yours when there are people still home less and jobless in your country despite you plundering resources all across the globe. Make sure you are still employed by end of trumps second term. As a matter of fact i shut your fcuking mouth by quoting you cold hard facts which is causing your verbal diarrhea not some imaginary green cards.

At the end of the day you got your arse handed to you by bunch of afghan cavemen and had to beg us to save you so that is your place. You people are source of every conflict on this planet so you deserve all the humiliation you can get.

 

[KurtisBrian]

The real money is there. H-1b is important to Indians in that it allows them to settle in USA.

As far as UK goes they will find getting middle class Indians to settle is better than allowing uneducated/poorly educated third worlders

So there is probably the real reason. Gaining entry and citizenship. There is absolutely no reason programmers cannot work in India. Just as there is no reason that foreign programs and games cannot face heavy tariffs.

 

[nahtanbob]

At the end of the day you people cant even end your own unemployment yet dream about handing over 1 million green cards. You might as shove those million green cards up yours when there are people still home less and jobless in your country despite you plundering resources all across the globe. Make sure you are still employed by end of trumps second term. As a matter of fact i shut your fcuking mouth by quoting you cold hard facts which is causing your verbal diarrhea not some imaginary green cards.

At the end of the day you got your arse handed to you by bunch of afghan cavemen and had to beg us to save you so that is your place. You people are source of every conflict on this planet so you deserve all the humiliation you can get.

It doesn't matter whether we have homeless or unemployment. 1 million pakistani will vote with their feet to get the green cards

who cares about those afghan cavemen ? we can beat them like a drum and occupy their country anytime we want. We did it in 2001. We can do it again

So there is probably the real reason. Gaining entry and citizenship. There is absolutely no reason programmers cannot work in India. Just as there is no reason that foreign programs and games cannot face heavy tariffs.

What is the value for software ? It is hard to put a dollar value on software. There is a reason tariffs do not work for software

 

[cloud4000]

Pakistanis complaining about Indians and H-1B is nothing more than sour grapes. While Pakistan was sitting on its hands, India was being proactive.

 

[siegecrossbow]

As a software engineer I applaud this move by president Trump.

 

[KurtisBrian]

What is the value for software ? It is hard to put a dollar value on software. There is a reason tariffs do not work for software

The value is unimportant for the tariff.
tariffs goal is to spur consumption of domestic produced goods. The higher the tariff the more effective it is at doing this. Some countries create their own unique technological standards, exclude and demonize foreigners and goods or start and lose wars in order to build or invigorate domestic industry and consumption. Those methods are also very effective.