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oh yea ! we are really disappointed that so big &rich india can't , even build toilets for its citizens ??
it's a fact , don't you think ???lol
Donald Trump slams Pakistan for lies and deceit
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it's a fact , don't you think ???lol
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lol you have been exposed you rat.
You know Indian poverty is worse than Pakistan's.
Even the UN says so.
Now get lost.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...els-higher-than-Pakistans-says-UN-report.html
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wow largest arms importer,Biggest producer of milk producers and richest man in Asia i am really speechless
these things you listed there are really to be somethings proud off? btw you forgot to mention largest producer of underpants and Bra and biggest consumer of Condoms
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lol , so by your logic any indian going abroad for medical treatment is because india is poor ???
Trump's 'incomprehensible' accusations contradict facts, negate Pakistani sacrifices: NSC
Participants of the seventeenth meeting of the National Security Committee (NSC) on Tuesday expressed "deep disappointment" at the allegations levelled against Pakistan by US President Donald Trump, saying the accusations strike at the trust between the two countries and negate the sacrifices rendered by the Pakistani nation.
NSC meeting underway in Islamabad.— DawnNews
Chaired by Prime Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi and attended by high-level civil-military leadership, the meeting observed that Pakistan has fought the war against terrorism primarily using its own resources and at a great cost to its economy.
"... even more importantly the huge sacrifices made by Pakistan, including the loss of tens of thousands of lives ... could not be trivialised so heartlessly by pushing all of it behind a monetary value – and that too an imagined one," a press release issued after the meeting in Islamabad said, in a reference to Trump's claim that the US has "foolishly" given Pakistan over $33 billion in aid over the last 15 years.
The committee members observed that President Trump's allegations were puzzling because they stand in contrast to the "positive direction" US and Pakistani officials had been pursuing through close interactionin the wake of Trump's South Asia policy announcement in August.
The US president's allegations were "completely incomprehensible as they contradicted facts manifestly, struck with great insensitivity at the trust between [the] two nations built over generations, and negated the decades of sacrifices made by the Pakistani nation", the handout said.
'Pakistan cannot be held responsible'
The NSC participants noted that it was due to Pakistan's counter-terrorism efforts of the last several years that scores of terrorist organisations based in Afghanistan had been unable to expand — "a fact acknowledged by US authorities at the highest levels".
They observed that Afghanistan-based militants had repeatedly attacked Pakistanis across the border with "impunity" by exploiting presence of millions of Afghan refugees in Pakistan, a porous Pak-Afghan border and ungoverned spaces inside Afghanistan.
Pakistan continues to support the US-led campaign in Afghanistan and is facilitating the effort through vital lines of communications for smooth counter-terrorism operations by the coalition forces, the committee members noted.
While observing that Pakistan cannot be held responsible for the "collective failure in Afghanistan", the participants deduced that following are the "real challenges" in the Afghan conflict:
Foreign Minister Khawaja Asif, Interior Minister Ahsan Iqbal, Defence Minister Khurram Dastgir, Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee Gen Zubair Mehmood Hayat, Chief of Army Staff Gen Qamar Javed Bajwa, Chief of Naval Staff Admiral Zafar Mahmood Abbasi, Air Chief Marshal Sohail Aman, Adviser to PM on Finance, Revenue and Economic Affairs Miftah Ismail, National Security Adviser (NSA) Nasser Khan Janjua, Pakistan’s Ambassador to the US Aizaz Ahmad Chaudhry, and senior civil and military officials attended the meeting.
Shortly before the meeting commenced, the military had finalised its suggestions for Pakistan's response to Trump's allegations in a Corps Commanders' Conference held at General Headquarters.
A meeting of the Parliamentary Committee on National Security has also been called on January 5 to discuss the US's allegations.
Audit of $33bn aid figure can reveal who is 'lying & deceiving': Asif
In his first tweet of the new year, Trump had accused Pakistan of basing its relationship with the US on “nothing but lies and deceit”.
“They give safe haven to the terrorists we hunt in Afghanistan, with little help. No more!” he had said.
Following the NSC meeting, Foreign Minister Asif challenged President Trump's claim that the US has given Pakistan "more than 33 billion dollars in aid over the last 15 years", saying verification by an audit firm would prove the US president wrong.
The foreign minister offered that Trump could hire a US-based audit firm "on our expense" to verify the $33 billion aid figure and "let the world know who is lying & deceiving".
Khawaja M. Asif
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Pres Trump quoted figure of $33billion given to PAK over last 15yrs,he can hire a US based Audit firm on our expense to verify this figure & let the world know who is lying & deceiving..
8:05 PM - Jan 2, 2018
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The Pakistan Army spokesman, Maj Gen Asif Ghafoor, had at a press conference last week asserted that the aid Pakistan received from the US was "reimbursement for support we gave to the coalition for its fight against Al Qaeda."
"Had we not supported the US and Afghanistan, they would never have been able to defeat Al Qaeda," he had said.
Worsening relations
The US president's tweet had come in the aftermath of an increasingly terse back-and-forth between Washington and Islamabad since Trump announced his administration's latest national security strategy.
During the announcement, the US president had been quick to remind Pakistan of its 'obligation' to help America "because it receives massive payments" from Washington every year.
"We have made clear to Pakistan that while we desire continued partnership, we must see decisive action against terrorist groups operating on their territory. And we make massive payments every year to Pakistan. They have to help," the US president had said.
A Pentagon report to the US Congress, released to the media on Dec 17, had said Washington would also take 'unilateral steps' in areas of divergence with Pakistan while expanding cooperation between the two countries where their interests converge.
Subsequently, US Vice President Mike Pence had, in a surprise visit to Afghanistan's Bagram airbase on Dec 22, warned that Trump has "put Pakistan on notice" in what was the harshest US warning to Islamabad since the beginning of the Afghan war over 16 years ago.
Official sources had told Dawn last week that the Trump administration was also considering withholding $255 million from a fund meant to provide military training and equipment to Pakistan, adding to already existing cuts on reimbursements.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1380351/t...tradict-facts-negate-pakistani-sacrifices-nsc
DEEP DISAPPOINTMENT. THOSE WORD JUST SENT SHIVERS DOWN TRUMPS SPINE. WHATTAY RESPONSE AFTER TWO DAYS.
Participants of the seventeenth meeting of the National Security Committee (NSC) on Tuesday expressed "deep disappointment" at the allegations levelled against Pakistan by US President Donald Trump, saying the accusations strike at the trust between the two countries and negate the sacrifices rendered by the Pakistani nation.
NSC meeting underway in Islamabad.— DawnNews
Chaired by Prime Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi and attended by high-level civil-military leadership, the meeting observed that Pakistan has fought the war against terrorism primarily using its own resources and at a great cost to its economy.
"... even more importantly the huge sacrifices made by Pakistan, including the loss of tens of thousands of lives ... could not be trivialised so heartlessly by pushing all of it behind a monetary value – and that too an imagined one," a press release issued after the meeting in Islamabad said, in a reference to Trump's claim that the US has "foolishly" given Pakistan over $33 billion in aid over the last 15 years.
The committee members observed that President Trump's allegations were puzzling because they stand in contrast to the "positive direction" US and Pakistani officials had been pursuing through close interactionin the wake of Trump's South Asia policy announcement in August.
The US president's allegations were "completely incomprehensible as they contradicted facts manifestly, struck with great insensitivity at the trust between [the] two nations built over generations, and negated the decades of sacrifices made by the Pakistani nation", the handout said.
'Pakistan cannot be held responsible'
The NSC participants noted that it was due to Pakistan's counter-terrorism efforts of the last several years that scores of terrorist organisations based in Afghanistan had been unable to expand — "a fact acknowledged by US authorities at the highest levels".
They observed that Afghanistan-based militants had repeatedly attacked Pakistanis across the border with "impunity" by exploiting presence of millions of Afghan refugees in Pakistan, a porous Pak-Afghan border and ungoverned spaces inside Afghanistan.
Pakistan continues to support the US-led campaign in Afghanistan and is facilitating the effort through vital lines of communications for smooth counter-terrorism operations by the coalition forces, the committee members noted.
While observing that Pakistan cannot be held responsible for the "collective failure in Afghanistan", the participants deduced that following are the "real challenges" in the Afghan conflict:
- Political infighting
- Massive corruption
- Phenomenal growth of drug production
- Expansion of ungoverned spaces inside Afghanistan holding sanctuaries for multiple terrorist organisations
Foreign Minister Khawaja Asif, Interior Minister Ahsan Iqbal, Defence Minister Khurram Dastgir, Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee Gen Zubair Mehmood Hayat, Chief of Army Staff Gen Qamar Javed Bajwa, Chief of Naval Staff Admiral Zafar Mahmood Abbasi, Air Chief Marshal Sohail Aman, Adviser to PM on Finance, Revenue and Economic Affairs Miftah Ismail, National Security Adviser (NSA) Nasser Khan Janjua, Pakistan’s Ambassador to the US Aizaz Ahmad Chaudhry, and senior civil and military officials attended the meeting.
Shortly before the meeting commenced, the military had finalised its suggestions for Pakistan's response to Trump's allegations in a Corps Commanders' Conference held at General Headquarters.
A meeting of the Parliamentary Committee on National Security has also been called on January 5 to discuss the US's allegations.
Audit of $33bn aid figure can reveal who is 'lying & deceiving': Asif
In his first tweet of the new year, Trump had accused Pakistan of basing its relationship with the US on “nothing but lies and deceit”.
“They give safe haven to the terrorists we hunt in Afghanistan, with little help. No more!” he had said.
Following the NSC meeting, Foreign Minister Asif challenged President Trump's claim that the US has given Pakistan "more than 33 billion dollars in aid over the last 15 years", saying verification by an audit firm would prove the US president wrong.
The foreign minister offered that Trump could hire a US-based audit firm "on our expense" to verify the $33 billion aid figure and "let the world know who is lying & deceiving".
Khawaja M. Asif✔@KhawajaMAsif
Pres Trump quoted figure of $33billion given to PAK over last 15yrs,he can hire a US based Audit firm on our expense to verify this figure & let the world know who is lying & deceiving..
8:05 PM - Jan 2, 2018
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The Pakistan Army spokesman, Maj Gen Asif Ghafoor, had at a press conference last week asserted that the aid Pakistan received from the US was "reimbursement for support we gave to the coalition for its fight against Al Qaeda."
"Had we not supported the US and Afghanistan, they would never have been able to defeat Al Qaeda," he had said.
Worsening relations
The US president's tweet had come in the aftermath of an increasingly terse back-and-forth between Washington and Islamabad since Trump announced his administration's latest national security strategy.
During the announcement, the US president had been quick to remind Pakistan of its 'obligation' to help America "because it receives massive payments" from Washington every year.
"We have made clear to Pakistan that while we desire continued partnership, we must see decisive action against terrorist groups operating on their territory. And we make massive payments every year to Pakistan. They have to help," the US president had said.
A Pentagon report to the US Congress, released to the media on Dec 17, had said Washington would also take 'unilateral steps' in areas of divergence with Pakistan while expanding cooperation between the two countries where their interests converge.
Subsequently, US Vice President Mike Pence had, in a surprise visit to Afghanistan's Bagram airbase on Dec 22, warned that Trump has "put Pakistan on notice" in what was the harshest US warning to Islamabad since the beginning of the Afghan war over 16 years ago.
Official sources had told Dawn last week that the Trump administration was also considering withholding $255 million from a fund meant to provide military training and equipment to Pakistan, adding to already existing cuts on reimbursements.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1380351/t...tradict-facts-negate-pakistani-sacrifices-nsc
DEEP DISAPPOINTMENT. THOSE WORD JUST SENT SHIVERS DOWN TRUMPS SPINE. WHATTAY RESPONSE AFTER TWO DAYS.
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& biggest producer of public pooh , in open is undoubtly india Is no 1 !lolzz
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if they have money to go abroad for treatment then they must be rich unlike some countries where people have to walk dozens of kilometer to walk to go to hospital
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Pakistan should formally renounce their military alliance with the USA.
That would allow Pakistan to sign a mutual defence treaty with China.
And China always upholds our mutual defence treaties, see the Korean War for instance, where we fought the USA + 16 of her allies combined to uphold our treaty.
That would allow Pakistan to sign a mutual defence treaty with China.
And China always upholds our mutual defence treaties, see the Korean War for instance, where we fought the USA + 16 of her allies combined to uphold our treaty.
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he forgot to mention that his country also house 1.5 billion sub humans
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it's actully not what Americans are lookin , they are just too worried of thier 15 ks soilders stationed in Afghanistan ?Trump's 'incomprehensible' accusations contradict facts, negate Pakistani sacrifices: NSC
Participants of the seventeenth meeting of the National Security Committee (NSC) on Tuesday expressed "deep disappointment" at the allegations levelled against Pakistan by US President Donald Trump, saying the accusations strike at the trust between the two countries and negate the sacrifices rendered by the Pakistani nation.
NSC meeting underway in Islamabad.— DawnNews
Chaired by Prime Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi and attended by high-level civil-military leadership, the meeting observed that Pakistan has fought the war against terrorism primarily using its own resources and at a great cost to its economy.
"... even more importantly the huge sacrifices made by Pakistan, including the loss of tens of thousands of lives ... could not be trivialised so heartlessly by pushing all of it behind a monetary value – and that too an imagined one," a press release issued after the meeting in Islamabad said, in a reference to Trump's claim that the US has "foolishly" given Pakistan over $33 billion in aid over the last 15 years.
The committee members observed that President Trump's allegations were puzzling because they stand in contrast to the "positive direction" US and Pakistani officials had been pursuing through close interactionin the wake of Trump's South Asia policy announcement in August.
The US president's allegations were "completely incomprehensible as they contradicted facts manifestly, struck with great insensitivity at the trust between [the] two nations built over generations, and negated the decades of sacrifices made by the Pakistani nation", the handout said.
'Pakistan cannot be held responsible'
The NSC participants noted that it was due to Pakistan's counter-terrorism efforts of the last several years that scores of terrorist organisations based in Afghanistan had been unable to expand — "a fact acknowledged by US authorities at the highest levels".
They observed that Afghanistan-based militants had repeatedly attacked Pakistanis across the border with "impunity" by exploiting presence of millions of Afghan refugees in Pakistan, a porous Pak-Afghan border and ungoverned spaces inside Afghanistan.
Pakistan continues to support the US-led campaign in Afghanistan and is facilitating the effort through vital lines of communications for smooth counter-terrorism operations by the coalition forces, the committee members noted.
While observing that Pakistan cannot be held responsible for the "collective failure in Afghanistan", the participants deduced that following are the "real challenges" in the Afghan conflict:
The NSC participants reached the consensus that Pakistan "cannot act in haste" and despite all the allegations will remain committed to playing a constructive role towards an Afghan-led and Afghan-owned peace process.
- Political infighting
- Massive corruption
- Phenomenal growth of drug production
- Expansion of ungoverned spaces inside Afghanistan holding sanctuaries for multiple terrorist organisations
Foreign Minister Khawaja Asif, Interior Minister Ahsan Iqbal, Defence Minister Khurram Dastgir, Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee Gen Zubair Mehmood Hayat, Chief of Army Staff Gen Qamar Javed Bajwa, Chief of Naval Staff Admiral Zafar Mahmood Abbasi, Air Chief Marshal Sohail Aman, Adviser to PM on Finance, Revenue and Economic Affairs Miftah Ismail, National Security Adviser (NSA) Nasser Khan Janjua, Pakistan’s Ambassador to the US Aizaz Ahmad Chaudhry, and senior civil and military officials attended the meeting.
Shortly before the meeting commenced, the military had finalised its suggestions for Pakistan's response to Trump's allegations in a Corps Commanders' Conference held at General Headquarters.
A meeting of the Parliamentary Committee on National Security has also been called on January 5 to discuss the US's allegations.
Audit of $33bn aid figure can reveal who is 'lying & deceiving': Asif
In his first tweet of the new year, Trump had accused Pakistan of basing its relationship with the US on “nothing but lies and deceit”.
“They give safe haven to the terrorists we hunt in Afghanistan, with little help. No more!” he had said.
Following the NSC meeting, Foreign Minister Asif challenged President Trump's claim that the US has given Pakistan "more than 33 billion dollars in aid over the last 15 years", saying verification by an audit firm would prove the US president wrong.
The foreign minister offered that Trump could hire a US-based audit firm "on our expense" to verify the $33 billion aid figure and "let the world know who is lying & deceiving".
✔@KhawajaMAsif
Pres Trump quoted figure of $33billion given to PAK over last 15yrs,he can hire a US based Audit firm on our expense to verify this figure & let the world know who is lying & deceiving..
8:05 PM - Jan 2, 2018
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The Pakistan Army spokesman, Maj Gen Asif Ghafoor, had at a press conference last week asserted that the aid Pakistan received from the US was "reimbursement for support we gave to the coalition for its fight against Al Qaeda."
"Had we not supported the US and Afghanistan, they would never have been able to defeat Al Qaeda," he had said.
Worsening relations
The US president's tweet had come in the aftermath of an increasingly terse back-and-forth between Washington and Islamabad since Trump announced his administration's latest national security strategy.
During the announcement, the US president had been quick to remind Pakistan of its 'obligation' to help America "because it receives massive payments" from Washington every year.
"We have made clear to Pakistan that while we desire continued partnership, we must see decisive action against terrorist groups operating on their territory. And we make massive payments every year to Pakistan. They have to help," the US president had said.
A Pentagon report to the US Congress, released to the media on Dec 17, had said Washington would also take 'unilateral steps' in areas of divergence with Pakistan while expanding cooperation between the two countries where their interests converge.
Subsequently, US Vice President Mike Pence had, in a surprise visit to Afghanistan's Bagram airbase on Dec 22, warned that Trump has "put Pakistan on notice" in what was the harshest US warning to Islamabad since the beginning of the Afghan war over 16 years ago.
Official sources had told Dawn last week that the Trump administration was also considering withholding $255 million from a fund meant to provide military training and equipment to Pakistan, adding to already existing cuts on reimbursements.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1380351/t...tradict-facts-negate-pakistani-sacrifices-nsc
DEEP DISAPPOINTMENT. THOSE WORD JUST SENT SHIVERS DOWN TRUMPS SPINE. WHATTAY RESPONSE AFTER TWO DAYS.
who still need even toilet papers from , outside of Afghanistan , & only route avaliable is pakistan ! lolzz
pentagon , cent com , all other establishment there are having night mares ! just right now
Why are indians irrationally exuberant???? They should just go and do more trump worshiping.
On the topic:
Timing of response and action are critical part. Now that Pakistani political, military and civil establishments spoken in same voice, it is crucial that a policy statement and action plan put at work. What more important is cancel all bilateral engagement and shut the logistical passage indefinitely.
On the topic:
Timing of response and action are critical part. Now that Pakistani political, military and civil establishments spoken in same voice, it is crucial that a policy statement and action plan put at work. What more important is cancel all bilateral engagement and shut the logistical passage indefinitely.
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Haha, you still did not answer my question on poverty, because you know India has more poverty than Pakistan does.
Get lost Indian joker. You have been exposed.
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China per capita GDP: $15500 ppp
India per capita GDP: $6490 ppp
Pakistan per capita GDP: $5580 ppp
Where is Pakistan? It is right next to India. The difference between us is that India is blundering under Modi and Pakistan is building under CPEC.
No country should ever close doors in diplomacy and make rash decisions. We have learnt that from China.
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