Domestic & Social Crimes [Mob/ Vigilante justice] Thread

[Zarvan]

The only solution for the survival of Pakistan. Hang all the bearded Maulvis and extremist like ATTATURK did. I gaurantee a more prosperous and progressive Pakistan will emerge.

And now Turkey is going back to Islam Sir this formula will fail in every Muslim Country in Tunisia where no women was allowed to wear head covering Azan was banned on many places and now Mullahs have won the elections their and even in Egypt Muslim Brother hood will will win the election

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The Judge has gone to perform Hajj according to most news channels and also now by Lahore High Court

 

[Zarvan]

Sir everything you said is incorrect.

Oh wait....

Islamic Arabized Pakistani Zarvan, is that you?

Yes I love Islam and I love Muslims and you can see Islamists winning elections in every Muslim Country and soon they will be in government in Pakistan too


Islamic Arabized Pakistani Zarvan, is that you?

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What wrong I said

 

[Irfan Baloch]

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[Don Jaguar]

Ok bro.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Welcome to maithri kochi...

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Zarvan

please make a similar thread like this In the Indian Defwence section because this thread is meant for similar issues in Pakistan that Help Seeker is posting.

 

[thegreensprite]

Ahmadi temples are not allowed but only in their dedicated territories.

LOL

Mosques must not be used for Shirk that is why we take them back any objections ?

No shirk in Pakistan?? Really :
lahore darbar baba sadiq shah - YouTube

They should migrate to India to seek their roots in Qadiyan and continue their pagan activities there but not In an Islamic state.

People like you should migrate out of this universe.

 

[thegreensprite]

personally you can call me racist when it comes to Ahmedis.

Ahmadis are not a race.. so no you not racist, but we could come up with loads of other words to describe you.

I am in great favour of co-existince with all other religions. I don't mind if there are 5000 churches, 5000 temples and 5000 other places of worship in Pakistan...

No you are not, you are a hypocrite because :

... but i would mind if there are 5000 Ahmedi's so-called mosques in Pakistan.

That is because Hinduism is a religion that is far far away from us.

Ok

Chrisitianism is another religion that is not like us. Jewish are a different society and so are other like Zorastrinism.

Ok, so more religions are different, where are trying to get at?

But when it come sto Ahmedis.................

So we are different aswell? LOL... how? We pray to Allah in the same way as you.

They are the ones who destroyed our own religion. They tried to corrupt our religion...

Nope... we haven't destroyed anything, it must have been broken by people like you.

...and i really feel sorry for them but at the same time would not allow them any kind of activities in Islamic republic of Pakistan.

We don't need your pity, we would prefer it if you could be a good Muslim and act like a human and follow the ways of the Holy Prophet(pbuh)

There is a tiny line between Muslims and Ahmedis and that line decides your whole faith.

Tiny? So are we different... I thought we had destroyed EVERYTHING???

It decides whether you believe in the Last Prophet (PBUH) or you the fake prophets coming after him. I can write long article on it so i am stopping here.

Sorry beta... no articles needed, once you say Kalma Tayeba you are a Muslim, now if you want to get deeper and start deciding what Ahmadis really mean in their hearts when they say it, well you start losing us... you are only a human, you don't know anything about how we feel about Allah or the Holy Prophet(pbuh)

Please Indians do us a favour please. Take all Ahmedis in your country and i am willing to pay you

How are you going to pay? By asking for donations first?

 

[Perceptron]

LOL



No shirk in Pakistan?? Really :
lahore darbar baba sadiq shah - YouTube



People like you should migrate out of this universe.

I am really surprised at how this forum allows people like Black Blood who has such rabid anti-Ahmadi views gets to become a Researcher ? This forum is democratic, hence even he can have a voice, but a voice with a label is an insult to that label in PDF. I truly feel that voices like MastanKhan ought to get that coveted post.

 

[thegreensprite]

...however no Muslim scholar will ever declare them Muslim.

The words of these so called scholars are cheap... they are only looking after themselves.

It is like you are declaring Christian a Muslim. Ahmedis and Muslims are two different religions with 2 different foundations of their religions.

You are confused, one minute there is a fine line between you and Ahmadi Muslims, now its two different religions, which is it? Ok so our foundation is different... right... we pray to Allah, read Qu'ran, say the Kalma tayeba, Zakat, hajj, ramadan... hmmm... are you saying all these things are wrong? Sorry mate, don;t dictate what we can or can't do.

And like i said before i am happy to live with Christians, Hindus, Sikhs and other religions. But they "Ahmedis" have corrupted our religion and their activities cannot be acceptable to the majoritty of Muslims.
Simple

You are a angry little man... fortunately people like you have no influence on the world.

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You have missed what i have said before "If they want to live in peace & co existance" They must abide by our Laws and stop acting against the state ie Qadiyanis with dual passports getting Training In Israel is quite an obvious reason why we should worry.

Are you a conspiracy nut who thinks all of Pakistans problems stem from the outside? And whats that about "wanting to live in peace and co-existance", we are not causing the issues, it's trouble makers like you.

 

[thegreensprite]

Think before you speak:

Muslim reaction therefore did not subside in the post-amendment era. A new wave of resentment started in 1976 when Maulana Zafar Ahmad Ansari, a veteran Muslim League leader quoted an extract from the book, 'Israel - A Profile' by a Jewish Professor I. T. Nomani, which said that there were 600 Ahmadis living in Israel had joined Israeli army.


Rabwah denied the existence of such a Professor or the book. Rabwah further denied that any Pakistani Ahmadi ever had been in Israel or that any Ahmadi is in Israeli army.

(Quoted in AlFazl Rabwah, 16 January, 11 February, 26 February and 13 April 1976) Maulana Ansari had however produced the book in a press conference which was printed by Pall Mall, London.

And it was common knowledge that Jalaluddin Qamar, Ahmadiyya Missionary from Rabwah had been serving in Israel since 1956 when Chaudhry Mohammed Sharif was called back to Pakistan from Israel.

Other than this, all Qadiani missionaries posted in Israel since 1928 had been living in Rabwah: J. D. Shams, Allah Ditta Jallendheri, Rashid Ahmad Chughtai, Noor Ahmad and Ch. Sharif. Their families had always been in contact with through questionable channels while they were abraod. (Ahmadiyya Movement - British Jewish Connections by Bashir Ahmad)

Pakistani Muslims had always been sensitive towards the Zionist state and such news generated more hostilities between them and Qadianis.

The issue of Ahmadiyya-Isreali collabration again figured in the Pakistani press in Feruary 1977 when an Urdu weekly published a picture from the weekly Jerusalem Post dated 9 October 1976 taken on the occassion of an Israeli function. A Qadiani delegation had called on the President of Israel and had photographs with him. in the picture were Israeli President, his advisor on minority affairs Mansur Kamal, Musa Odeh - a palestinian Qadiani and Jalaluddin Qamar, the Ahmadiyya Missionary in Israel. (Islami Jamhouriyah, Lahore, 2-8 January 1977; Weekly Lahore, Lahore, 14 February 1977) It proved that unlike other religious and ethnic minorities, Ahmadis had close relations with the Government of Israel.




Now Speak , what should we do with Traitors !

Pakistani Constitution and Qadianis

Qadian and Israel

LOL... conspiracy nut, btw us Ahmadi Muslims join the armies of whatever country we reside in, including Isarel, nothing wrong with that, if the outside world is so evil, i wonder why there are so many Pakistanis in Europe/US... why don't they all head back? LOL.... and this copied pasted waffle above is not proof.

 

[thegreensprite]

...you are just ranting like an indian, are you an indian??? now you are just humiliating your own country infront of non pakistani viewers and its such a shame really..

Is this your way of silencing dialogue... calling them Indian or Ahmadi or anything to divert from the main point, any human with a kind heart will see Pakistanis as a nation can be pretty cruel, and when sh*t hits the fan in Pakistan, nobody is really bothered, I mean just looking at the floods, doesn't seem like a reward for being a good Muslim nation now is it.

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Last time i heard was Qadiyanis Running away from Debates , how would they even come to Courts ?

LOL... running from debates, right, and when we destroy you intellectually you start using violence... why disucss anything with jahils?

Recently an israeli general written in his book that they are Providing Training to Qadiyanis to send them back to Pakistan.

I am trying to get hold of the Links to that if i could .

I'm really looking forward to this....

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More Qadiyanis serve in the Israeli Armed Forces than Pakistan according to a book, 'Israel: A Profile', by a Jewish Professor I.T Naomi. He stated: '… and the Ahmadi sect of some 600 people from Pakistan also serve in the (Israeli) army...' To many analysts Qadiyanis are a political issue and have always been a security problem? In India Qadiyanis have collected and donated thousands to the Indian Army fund after Kargil.

Tariq Aziz reportedly Qadiyani relative of Rehman Malik has been hired for the 'track two diplomacy with India'. His rank and salary would be equivalent to ....... No wonder MQM and PPP are reportedly planning to move a motion in the parliament to undo the declaration of Qadiyanis as non Muslims by ZA Bhutto led Parliament on 7th September 1974.

Altaf Hussain prayed for the forgiveness of Mirza Tahir Ahmad Qadiyani leader, who died in London few of years ago?
It was common knowledge that Jalaluddin Qamar, the Ahmedyah Missionary of Rabwah had been serving in Israel since 1956 when Ch. Muhammad Sharif was called back to Pakistan from Israel. All Qadiyani missionaries who had been formerly posted in Israel since 1928 namely J.D Shams, Allah Dita Jalundhari, Rashid Ahmed Chaughtai, Noor Ahmad and Ch. Sharif lived in Rabwah after serving in Israel. Their families had mysterious contact channels when they were in Israel", wrote Bashir Ahmad in 'Ahmadiyah Movement: British Jewish Connection.

As far as Jewish help and support is concerned, Mirza Mubarak Ahmad, grandson of the Qadiyani prophet has himself acknowledged in his book ‘OUR FOREIGN MISSIONS', PP. 79-80 in the following words: "The Ahmadiyya mission in Israel is situated in Haifa at Mount Karmal. We have a mosque there, a mission house, a library, a book depot and a school".



Counter it !!

LOL... counter what?

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But most of the cases are Dramas staged by these qadiyanis themselves to get a solid Police report with a Newspaper reference that they can claim the asylum in other Countries.

LOL... these delusional comments are so funny.. LOL

 

[thegreensprite]

I dont care about what they believe but what i do care about is that they Must not involve in Anti Pakistan Activities as it gives our enemies a breeding ground on our own soil by our own citizens.

You do care what we believe in, you like to stick your nose in our business and because you don't like it you make up lies.

Go through my previous posts , WTF Pakistani Ahmadis are doing in Israli millitary ???

Please stop having these delusions about the quality of your posts... they lack credibility and are full of factual and spelling mistakes.

Our Passports don't allow treaveling to the Zionist state , neither our constitution recognoizes them as a Country.

So what?

Everyone having polices which contradict our Constitution must be punished and this is how state works.

There is no law in Pakistan, only money.

They give up their Anti Pakistan activities today they would be recognized as "Loyal" citizens tomorrow.

There are plenty of us in Pakistan Armed Forces, if we were carrying out anti-Pakistan activities it would have been highlighted by now, you are talking BS.

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Please have a read if they Altered Quran !

If you were a Muslim you would know NOBODY can alter the Qu'ran, it is protected by Allah.

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The violence against Qadianis have been unfortunate. But the Qadianis have been very aggressive in both Pakistan and other parts of the world. They have themselves broken one of the cardinal rule of Islam. They are no longer Muslims and their insistence for being Muslims and aggressive missionary activity only brings limelight on them. I don't see that kind of negative feeling against Christians, Hindus, Parsis, etc that I see against Qadianis in Pakistan and abroad.

Stop making excuses, people like you are the cancer in Pakistan.

 

[newdelhinsa]

Ahmadis should convert to Shia or Sunni Islam or move to some other country where they can practice their religion in peace.

 

[Ahmad]

Ahmadis should convert to Shia or Sunni Islam or move to some other country where they can practice their religion in peace.

not a good solution.

 

[thegreensprite]

There are many people in all Muslim sects that declare each other kaffir but they all agree that Qadianis are not Muslims.

LOL... how laughable is that?? They call each other kaffir.. but are also united at the fact that Ahmadi Muslims are kaffirs... WOW.... I hope people realize how stupid some of the arguements against Ahmadis are.

Nobody from these sects has declared themselves as prophet and messiah as Mirza Ghulam Qadiani has done. Even the Ismailis that have deviated from mainstream Islam have never broken the cardinal rule on finality of prophethood (Khatmay-Nabuwat).

Who cares, you all are only humans, capable of making 1000's of mistakes, we don't care what the rest of the sects think/do, please do the same.