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Doka La face-off: Round 1 to India

Smacked? I see someone crying for dialogue when we are seen lifting our hand after some puny turd world guy was poking us for a fight.

The tone from India was so different a couple of days ago.

Our ministry has not issued any diplomatic arm on the stand off, we are just open for dialogue whenever China feels the need for it.

Tone from India is stronger and was that not the reason why your foreign minister was crying over Indian Army Chiefs visit to the area?
 
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Our ministry has not issued any diplomatic arm on the stand off, we are just open for dialogue whenever China feels the need for it.

Tone from India is stronger and was that not the reason why your foreign minister was crying over Indian Army Chiefs visit to the area?

there can be no meaningful dialogue without a strong military and this is what india sorely lacks

Alright you lost me here. I was reading through the thread just for entertainment.

Why are Gurkhas the only Indian unit which can fight China? Because they look partly Asian? The other units melt away in the face of the wrath of the mighty Asiatic race?

Who defeated Japan in WW? Do you know it was mostly Punjabis (Sikhs and Muslims) where Americans were having a tough time dealing with the suicidal fanatic tactics?

U guys are the same bunch who allowed the partition of india and pakistan and also the colonisation of india by the british hence all the problems began
 
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there can be no meaningful dialogue without a strong military and this is what india sorely lacks

Do you even read what you write? Military and Diplomacy are quite the opposite. India has adequate power to get them on to the table but why would India even bother when we are at a clear advantage here?
 
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U guys are the same bunch who allowed the partition of india and pakistan and also the colonisation of india by the british hence all the problems began

I think you mistook him for a Britisher. I quite dont understand how the British could have colonized India and then partitioned Pakistan and India out of the magic hat, while technically it is just India that was partitioned leaving Pakistan as its byproduct.

Another fake victory ... bravo.... clapping

At lest the Chinese foreign ministry was not cheap enough to downplay the incursion.
 
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Do you even read what you write? Military and Diplomacy are quite the opposite. India has adequate power to get them on to the table but why would India even bother when we are at a clear advantage here?

India's military is not really strong. Remember the string of pearls strategy?
 
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yes true..and countries like Taiwan, Mongolia and others who are victims of chinese aggression should get inspired....

Here is a list of the countries with whom China has made territorial and border disputes ..
  1. Japan :: Parts of the East China Sea, particularly the Senkaku Islands. Also, on occasion, the Ryukyu Islands, on the grounds that the completely independent Kingdom of Ryukyu was once a vassal state of China. The Kingdom of Ryukyu terminated tributary relations with China in 1874.

  2. Vietnam :: China claims large parts of Vietnam on historical precedent (Ming Dynasty, 1368-1644). Also, Macclesfield Bank, Paracel Islands, parts of the South China Sea and the Spratly Islands.

  3. India :: China illegally occupies 38,000 sq km (Aksai Chin) of land in Jammu & Kashmir. It also holds 5,180 km of Indian territory in Pakistan occupied Kashmir under Sino-Pak agreement of 1963. At the heart of Sino-Indian boundary dispute is the issue of Arunachal Pradesh (90,000 sq km), which China describes as "Southern Tibet". Beijing is demanding that at least the Tawang Tract of Arunachal Pradesh, if not the whole of the state, be transferred to China.

  4. Nepal :: China claims parts of Nepal dating back to the Sino-Nepalese War in 1788-1792. China claims they are part of Tibet, therefore part of China.

  5. North Korea :: Baekdu Mountain and Jiandao. China has also on occasion claimed all of North Korea on historical grounds (Yuan Dynasty, 1271-1368).

  6. The Philippines :: Parts of the South China Sea, particularly Scarborough Shoal and the Spratly Islands. Russia :: 160,000 square kilometres still unilaterally claimed by China, despite China signing several agreements. Singapore :: Parts of the South China Sea.

  7. South Korea :: Parts of the East China Sea. China has also on occasion claimed all of South Korea on historical grounds (Yuan Dynasty, 1271-1368).

  8. Bhutan :: Bhutanese enclaves in Tibet, namely Cherkip Gompa, Dho, Dungmar, Gesur, Gezon, Itse Gompa, Khochar, Nyanri, Ringung, Sanmar, Tarchen and Zuthulphuk. Also Kula Kangri and mountainous areas to the west of this peak, plus the western Haa District of Bhutan.

  9. Taiwan :: China claims all of Taiwan, but particular disputes are: Macclesfi eld Bank, Paracel Islands, Scarborough Shoal, parts of the South China Sea and the Spratly Islands. The Paracel Islands, also called Xisha Islands in Vietnamese, is a group of islands in the South China Sea whose sovereignty is disputed among China, Taiwan and Vietnam disputes with Burma.

  10. Kazakhstan :: There are continual unilateral claims by China on Kazakhstan territory, despite new agreements, in China's favour signed every few years.

  11. Laos :: China claims large areas of Laos on historical precedent (China's Yuan Dynasty, 1271-1368).

  12. Brunei :: Over Spratly Islands. The Spratly Islands is a disputed group of more than 750 reefs, islets, atolls, cays, and islands in the South China Sea. About 45 islands are occupied by small numbers of military forces from the People's Republic of China, Taiwan, Vietnam, the Philippines, and Malaysia. Brunei has also claimed an exclusive economic zone in the southeastern part of the Spratlys encompassing just one area of small islands on Louisa Reef. This has led to escalating tensions.

  13. Tajikistan :: Chinese claims based on historical precedent (Qing Dynasty, 1644-1912).

  14. Cambodia :: China has, on occasion, claimed parts of Cambodia on historical precedent (China's Ming Dynasty, 1368-1644). Indonesia :: Parts of the South China Sea.

  15. Kyrgyzstan :: China claims the majority of Kyrgyzstan on the grounds that it was unfairly forced to cede the territory (which it had formerly conquered) to Russia in the 19th century.

  16. Malaysia :: Over Parts of the South China Sea, particularly the Spratly Islands.

  17. Mongolia :: China claims all of Mongolia on historical precedent (Yuan Dynasty, 1271-1368). In fact, Mongolia, under Genghis Khan, occupied China.

  18. Afghanistan :: Afghan province of Bahdakhshan (despite a bilateral treaty of 1963, China still encroaches on Afghan territory).
19. Southern hemisphere of mars: China claimes the entire south end hemisphere of mars on historical ground,Chinese ung un kong dynasty (BCE 14430-331)
 
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India's military is not really strong. Remember the string of pearls strategy?

Indian military has effectively managed to counter the string of pearls strategy by deploying its forces around the IOR region and actively engaging with friendly countries. Should China establish a base nearby, it would be a good start for India to look for something in the SCS region too.
 
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I think you mistook him for a Britisher. I quite dont understand how the British could have colonized India and then partitioned Pakistan and India out of the magic hat, while technically it is just India that was partitioned leaving Pakistan as its byproduct.

At lest the Chinese foreign ministry was not cheap enough to downplay the incursion.

actually the partition of india should have done with more thought hence less problems today.

So many problems in south asia today because india neglects its own country.

india allowed itself to be colonised as well.

Indian military has effectively managed to counter the string of pearls strategy by deploying its forces around the IOR region and actively engaging with friendly countries. Should China establish a base nearby, it would be a good start for India to look for something in the SCS region too.

no need. u guys dont have stealth fighters or stealth ships and good quality submarines can only be counted with 5 fingers.

if anything the satellites will spot you from 5,000 miles away

Quote where we ever called you a chicken for extending peace. We have never shied away from dialogue or force. India can Most certainly win over any aggression from China and you know that better.

Dont forget siliguri corridor.

china can easily slice through that and let them go independent.

New delhi is only 400km from pakistan.

Lol.

There wont be a round 2. The Chinese know they are dominated in this area and have scurried away.

They will make a few noises in the media, a few troop movements and other posturing....and wait for time to cover up their loss of face.

It's just another chapter in their playbook. The PLA golden rule is to frustrate and anger their trolls here, always.

Lol. They are only showing incredible restraint.

PLA have went up against USA in vietnam and korea and do u think they are worried about 1 armed forces about 20 years behind of them
 
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Really funny Chinese minister showing off photographs of Indian "aggression". First of its kind :rofl::rofl:
While Indian soldiers were trolling them, all Chinese could do is take photographs. :lol:
 
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China is sandwiched between India, Bhutan, Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, Vietnam, USA and Philippines. They got too many enemies.

Their own arrogance made others their enemies. Some how china thinks strength will make them victorious. They are making the same mistakes as the US.
 
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They have to do justification first, the casus beli before they strike really hard that the indian armed forces' skeleton will shake
ok justification over, but to strike hardy hardy yet. Looking forward for next batch of photographs. :rofl:
Chinese soldiers seem to be expert at photography:lol:
 
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actually the partition of india should have done with more thought hence less problems today.

So many problems in south asia today because india neglects its own country.

india allowed itself to be colonised as well.

It was not India that called for partition and neither did India allow itself to be colonized. Shit happened and for good as India is now more united to the then largely princely states.


no need. u guys dont have stealth fighters or stealth ships and good quality submarines can only be counted with 5 fingers.

if anything the satellites will spot you from 5,000 miles away

India has enough fighters, stealth ships and Submarine and is building more which I am sure in the years to come cannot be counted put together the fingers of your neighbors and friends. Speaking of satellites, we have a few ourselves.



Dont forget siliguri corridor.

china can easily slice through that and let them go independent.

Last time it tried, it failed. They are welcome to try again but the result will not be any different except that their loss would be much more.

New delhi is only 400km from pakistan. Lol.

What did you find so funny about that?

They have to do justification first, the casus beli before they strike really hard that the indian armed forces' skeleton will shake

We have had shown enough of photographs ourselves when it happened to us. Now we've upped the ante for its payback time. Should China want to resolve this issue, it needs to withdraw its forces and keep the constructions someplace else.
 
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if anyone here is from india they need to ask their government 3 questions

1. Why is the defense budget 50 billion USD but armed forces strength only 2 times the power of singapore.

2. Why pursue useless projects like HAL tejas and manufacturing stuff like arjun tank when cheaper to import

3. India is obviously not sophisticated enough to manufacture stuff for own industry with cost overruns

4. Why so many accidents in the navy?

5. Why u guys cant fight win the insurgency (maoist rebels etc) thats going on in the country?

seriously, dont even think that defending bhutan is possible my friends. Bhutan doesnt even wanna defend itself

Wow, Seems like you've done a lot of research on India my friend but unfortunately its all BS...i know its tough but all the hardwork down the drain.
* Armed forces strength only twice that of singapore? Any specific study to back this bs up?
* why pursue HAL tejas and other indegenious projects? To reach a level of self reliance down the road and invest in our own tech....
* Again any specific study to back your point no 3 or is it another shot in the dark?
* cant fight insurgents? We are literally killing them by the dozens every month.
Bhutan doesn't even 'wanna' defend itself? Ze fook....didnt you read the official statement from bhutan on this issue?

By the way those were 5 questions *sigh*
 
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