Does Turkey Benefit From Cold War With Israel?

[Type 052D]

good joke

First of all, Turks in Anatolia are predominantly of Hoplogene J-2 not Turkic C-group, that means your more closer to Greeks than Old Gokturks that Han Chinese had defeated

 

[MertKaan]

First of all, Turks in Anatolia are predominantly of Hoplogene J-2 not Turkic C-group, that means your more closer to Greeks than Old Gokturks that Han Chinese had defeated

C is not turkic haplogroup

where is your proof ?

 

[atatwolf]

First of all, Turks in Anatolia are predominantly of Hoplogene J-2 not Turkic C-group, that means your more closer to Greeks than Old Gokturks that Han Chinese had defeated

J-2? C? A? CHING? CHONG ?

Please speak English. It is against the rules to speak other language.

 

[Type 052D]

C is not turkic haplogroup

where is your proof ?

LMFAO Turks today are not Turkic, they are Anatolian.

 

[atatwolf]

By the way that guy in the video LOOKS exactly Turkish.

LMFAO Turks today are not Turkic, they are Anatolian Turks

Corrected


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[MertKaan]

LMFAO Turks today are not Turkic, they are Anatolian.

yes also uygurs are anatolian

 

[Type 052D]

J-2? C? A? CHING? CHONG ?

Please speak English. It is against the rules to speak other language.

''In Europe, the frequency of Haplogroup J-M172 drops as one moves northward away from the Mediterranean. In Italy, J-M172 is found with regional frequencies ranging between 9% and 36% (Capelli 2007). In Greece, it is found with regional frequencies ranging between 10% and 48%. Approximately 24% of Turkish men are J-M172 according to a recent study, (Cinnioglu 2004) with regional frequencies ranging between 13% and 40% (Semino 2000). Combined with J-M267, up to half of the Turkish population belongs to Haplogroup J-P209.
It has been proposed that haplogroup subclade J-M410 was linked to populations on ancient Crete by examining the relationship between Anatolian, Cretan, and Greek populations from around early Neolithic sites in Crete. Haplogroup J-M12 was associated with Neolithic Greece (ca. 8500 - 4300 BCE) and was reported to be found in modern Crete (3.1%) and mainland Greece (Macedonia 7.0%, Thessaly 8.8%, Argolis 1.8%) (King 2008).''

Source? The American Journal of Human Genetics

C is not turkic haplogroup

where is your proof ?

That just proves my point, most authentic C.Asian Turks are mixed with extinct Indo-European speaking groups hence containg R1A/B. Namely Iranian Peoples that lived in the steppes before the Altaic groups appeared

 

[MertKaan]

''In Europe, the frequency of Haplogroup J-M172 drops as one moves northward away from the Mediterranean. In Italy, J-M172 is found with regional frequencies ranging between 9% and 36% (Capelli 2007). In Greece, it is found with regional frequencies ranging between 10% and 48%. Approximately 24% of Turkish men are J-M172 according to a recent study, (Cinnioglu 2004) with regional frequencies ranging between 13% and 40% (Semino 2000). Combined with J-M267, up to half of the Turkish population belongs to Haplogroup J-P209.
It has been proposed that haplogroup subclade J-M410 was linked to populations on ancient Crete by examining the relationship between Anatolian, Cretan, and Greek populations from around early Neolithic sites in Crete. Haplogroup J-M12 was associated with Neolithic Greece (ca. 8500 - 4300 BCE) and was reported to be found in modern Crete (3.1%) and mainland Greece (Macedonia 7.0%, Thessaly 8.8%, Argolis 1.8%) (King 2008).''

Source? The American Journal of Human Genetics



That just proves my point, most authentic C.Asian Turks are mixed with extinct Indo-European speaking groups hence containg R1A/B. Namely Iranian Peoples that lived in the steppes before the Altaic groups appeared

http://s155239215.onlinehome.us/turkic/60_Genetics/Klyosov2010DNK-GenealogyEn.htm
Whoever reads this, is blessed with a first, real, groundbreaking treatise on Türkic genetics that has a vision equipped with professional tools and not burdened by a load of preconceived notions and institutional restrictions. Even if the future established that not all all hypothesis and explanations are correct, the principles and vision would be a ratchet that would not allow a slide backwards. This is a new page in Turkology, this is a new page in the Indo-European Urheimat business.

For a sequel on Bell Beaker development, turn to Proceedings of the Russian Academy of DNA Genealogy, vol. 4, No. 6, 2011, p. 1127

Posting clarifications and comments are (in blue italics) and blue boxes. Page numbers are shown at the beginning of the page in blue. Most of the references on the author's work can be found on the author's homepage Anatole Klyosov's Web Page. The adjective Türkic and the noun Türk are used to denote the global world of the Türkic community that includes Turkish and Turks as one of the constituents; Türk is a noun of which Türkic and Türkic are adjectival derivatives, it is needed for translation from Russian, which has four distinct designations for four phenomena. To designate a biased advocate of Türkic studies is used a word Türkist, a mirror of the word Iranist, vs. Turkologist whose specialty is impartial Türkic studies. The semantics of the above terminology in English and Russian is a result of their national histories.

 

[Targon]

Omg who the hell cares about genetics ? what does it matter with who someones ancestors f.cked thousands of years ago ? whats important is what inherited, if a Slav married to a Arab and their offsprings retained Slavic identity the semitic genetics they had doesn't matters.

 

[Type 052D]

J-2 Type Haplogroup in C. Asia are not mostly Turkic speaking but are either Cuasian or other groups and ethnicities;

J-M172 is found at very high frequencies in certain peoples of the Caucasus: among the Ingush 87.4% (Balanovsky 2011), Chechens 55.2% (Balanovsky 2011), Georgians 21%-72%, (Wells 2001), Azeris 24% (Di Giacomo 2004)-48%, (Wells 2001) Abkhaz 25%, (Nasidze 2004) Balkars 24% (Battaglia 2008), Ossetians 24% (Nasidze 2004), Armenians 21% (Wells 2001)-24% (Nasidze 2004), Circassians 21.8% (Balanovsky 2011), and other groups ( Nasidze 2004 and Nasidze 2003).

Omg who the hell cares about genetics ? what does it matter with who someones ancestors f.cked thousands of years ago ? whats important is what inherited, if a Slav married to a Arab and their offsprings retained Slavic identity the semitic genetics they had doesn't matters.

Your right, I got derailed off topic but that MertKhan dude stared it. I studied Evolutionary biology so I had go wild on the Keyboard . Back to topic; Turkey has nothing gain from an Cold war with Israel, it would be political and military sucide

 

[MertKaan]

''In Europe, the frequency of Haplogroup J-M172 drops as one moves northward away from the Mediterranean. In Italy, J-M172 is found with regional frequencies ranging between 9% and 36% (Capelli 2007). In Greece, it is found with regional frequencies ranging between 10% and 48%. Approximately 24% of Turkish men are J-M172 according to a recent study, (Cinnioglu 2004) with regional frequencies ranging between 13% and 40% (Semino 2000). Combined with J-M267, up to half of the Turkish population belongs to Haplogroup J-P209.
It has been proposed that haplogroup subclade J-M410 was linked to populations on ancient Crete by examining the relationship between Anatolian, Cretan, and Greek populations from around early Neolithic sites in Crete. Haplogroup J-M12 was associated with Neolithic Greece (ca. 8500 - 4300 BCE) and was reported to be found in modern Crete (3.1%) and mainland Greece (Macedonia 7.0%, Thessaly 8.8%, Argolis 1.8%) (King 2008).''

Source? The American Journal of Human Genetics



That just proves my point, most authentic C.Asian Turks are mixed with extinct Indo-European speaking groups hence containg R1A/B. Namely Iranian Peoples that lived in the steppes before the Altaic groups appeared

r1a and r1a came from this man

altaic groups << this is western propaganda as eu centrism we dont follow them . i dont believe altaic language family
mongolian numbers
1-neg
2-hoyor
3-guraw
4-doruw
5-tav
6-zurgaa
7-doloo
8-naym
9-yes
10-araw.
turkic
1-bir
2-iki
3-üç
4-dört
5-be&#351;
6-alt&#305;
7-yedi
8-sekiz
9-dokuz
10-on
now i must go

 

[mehmeTcc]

J-2 Type Haplogroup in C. Asia are not mostly Turkic speaking but are either Cuasian or other groups and ethnicities;

J-M172 is found at very high frequencies in certain peoples of the Caucasus: among the Ingush 87.4% (Balanovsky 2011), Chechens 55.2% (Balanovsky 2011), Georgians 21%-72%, (Wells 2001), Azeris 24% (Di Giacomo 2004)-48%, (Wells 2001) Abkhaz 25%, (Nasidze 2004) Balkars 24% (Battaglia 2008), Ossetians 24% (Nasidze 2004), Armenians 21% (Wells 2001)-24% (Nasidze 2004), Circassians 21.8% (Balanovsky 2011), and other groups ( Nasidze 2004 and Nasidze 2003).

You can't judge people's Turkishness with genetics. We invaded to 4 continents.

Turkics origin is still a mystery.

Paleolithic Continuity Theory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Or, there are more extreme theories about the origins of us:
Sun Language Theory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Comparison of Sumerian words with Turkish ones:

Gadun ------------ Hatun
Assinu ----------- Asena
Gig-Anu ---------- Göktanr&#305; (Gök ana)
Tammuzi --------- Temmuz
Domuzi ---------- Dom&#305;z
Ginç --------- Genç
Au&#351;k -------- --- A&#351;k
Tar- kus-u -------- Talih ku&#351;u
Ungar ---------- Uygar
Altun ----------- Alt&#305;n
Anu ---------- Ana
Tengiz---------- Deniz
Gozam-Ozam ------ Ozan
En-gur-ra --------- Ankara
Tamga --------- Damga
Me-en ---------- Men-Ben
Ag&#305;l ----------- Ak&#305;l
Bar ----------- Var
Er-E&#351; ------------ Erkek-Kad&#305;n
Rakibu ------- Rakip
Aga --------------- A&#287;a
Balag-ba -------- Balaban
Kes-da ------------ Kesmek
Bira ------------- Bira
Tagga ------------ Takke
Ge ----------------- Gel
&#304;lig ---------- &#304;lik
Et ----------------- Et
Mum ------------- Mum
Huma-kus-a ----------- huma Ku&#351;u
Sin ------------- Sin(e)
Karra ------------ Kara
Batu ----------- Bat&#305;
Sar ------------ Sar(&#305
Heak---------- Hak
Mesu ---------- Me&#351;e
Engin ----------- Engin

 

[Targon]

Dude were you got that ? half of these words are not even Turkic but generally Arabic.

 

[Type 052D]

Dude were you got that ? half of these words are not even Turkic but generally Arabic.

Unlikely as the Arabic language is the second youngest semtic language (400BC) while Sumerian is an Language Isolate. The semities that invaded Mesopotamia around 2,000BC was the Akkidian/Assyrians etc..

 

[Targon]

Semitic if you like to call it that way, I don't know if the words he gave as Sumerian is really Sumerian but some of them are Semitic I can see that.