Does religion make Muslims more violent?

[Norwegian]

It is not. It is spread across the world. And is spread nearly wherever there is any significant muslim population.

Its not that simple. There is significant muslim population in UAE, Qatar, Azerbaijan, Turkey with almost none terrorist attacks. Reason? Good governance.

 

[doppelganger]

No, communal violence.

Bomb blasts are not communal violence. They are acts of terrorism.

26/11 was not communal violence.

Kashmir is not communal violence.

 

[Ind4Ever]

Muslim countries have an average of 2.4 murders per annum per 100,000 people: statistics . PHOTO: AFP

Any discussion on terrorism, almost always circles back to the widespread belief that Muslims are more violent because of their religion, Vox reported.

Although these conversations may always circle back to the bigoted question of whether religion makes Muslims more violent, they lack data and evidence to attribute violent behavior to Muslims.

According to UC-Berkeley Professor M Steven Fish, people in Muslim majority countries actually tend to be significantly less violent, judging by murder rates.

Statistics show that Muslim countries have an average of 2.4 murders per annum per 100,000 people in stark contrast to 7.5 murders in non-Muslim countries.

The percentage of Muslims is an extraordinarily good predictor of a country’s murder rate, the professor found.

To provide some concrete evidence, Fish used his findings and re-run the numbers to exclude non-Muslim majority states -such as Colombia, El Salvador, Guatemala, Jamaica, South Africa and Venezuela-with extraordinarily high murder rates. Those countries with many Muslim inhabitants were still less prone to murders by a large margin.

If Islam was the key factor in the cause of religiously motivated terrorism then it could be expected that ordinary Muslims too would be more violent than ordinary non-Muslims. However, there are over a billion believing Muslims globally and if Islam was intrinsically prone to violence then the data would suggest that. The data however, is quite contrary.

Despite this study, it goes without saying that religiously motivated terrorism is indeed a real phenomenon and a global problem. Fish argued that such terrorism could be a reaction to the Western foreign policy.

The data provided by Fish should be an important reminder that just like other religions, Islam too prohibits violence. Although it is dependent on who is interpreting Islam, it can be said that Islam is not intrinsically violent.
Does religion make Muslims more violent? – The Express Tribune

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[TankMan]

Islamic radicalism called Jamaat-e-Islami and their extremist version of Islam


A believer is a believer. It doesn't mean a believer is a religious scholar

You don't need to be a scholar to not get heart attacks when you're going to meet your God

 

[Norwegian]

Bomb blasts are not communal violence. They are acts of terrorism.

Sure do.

26/11 was not communal violence.

It was terror. Who is denying it? Isn't Pakistan plagued by terrorism itself from same radical groups who did 26/11?

Kashmir is not communal violence.

No, its struggle for independence warped into terrorist attacks.

 

[doppelganger]

Its not that simple. There is significant muslim population in UAE, Qatar, Azerbaijan, Turkey with almost none terrorist attacks. Reason? Good governance.

Did you realise how hard you had to think to come up with that list?

 

[Norwegian]

Did you realise how hard you had to think to come up with that list?

No, I just refuted your over simplistic and vague nonsensical claims that a majority of Muslims in a certain region automatically means terrorism

 

[doppelganger]

'Nuff said' my arse.

A few years ago these same graphs would be pointing towards South and Central/Latin America for all the insurgencies and terrorists operating there, and a few years before that Europe would be the red zone because of the two World Wars, which included countless insurgencies and incidences of terrorism, that took place there.

And that third one was retarded - Iraq is a bloody war zone, what do you expect from it? If you'll label wartime attacks as terrorist incidents of course you'll get those kinds of figures. Same with Afghanistan and some parts of Pakistan that are on its border.

Geopolitical hotspots = terrorist hotspots, regardless of religion.

Do you realize that of the 22 odd major hotspots around the world, only ONE, Colombia, is non-Islamic related?

Am sure one can stretch a point. But here the elastic seems to have snapped a long time back in the thread.

 

[TankMan]

Its not that simple. There is significant muslim population in UAE, Qatar, Azerbaijan, Turkey with almost none terrorist attacks. Reason? Good governance.

Let's not forget the little countries like Maldives, Senegal, Comoros etc. All those are over 90% Muslim yet there isn't any terrorism in most of them, at all. Good governance and political stability is the main reason for that.

 

[Norwegian]

@doppelganger
Islamic Republic of Iran is widely known in the West for exporting terror or state-sponsor of terrorism around the globe. Yet this country being majority Muslim rarely is hit by terrorist attacks when its neighboring Iraq and Pakistan is plagued by Islamist radical terrorism for decades. Again, terrorism is a symptom of bad or weak governance. And its nothing to do with religion of that country.

@haman10 @SOHEIL

Let's not forget the little countries like Maldives, Senegal, Comoros etc. All those are over 90% Muslim yet there isn't any terrorism in most of them, at all. Good governance and political stability is the main reason for that.

 

[DrawingDead]

This is a very strange article. It does a good job of answering an accusation nobody has made. Accusation is the Muslims are more prone to RELIGIOUS violence. The article does nothing to address that. A breakdown based on religious violence rather than lumping all murders together will present a truer picture than this feelgood piece written by a Berkerley liberal

 

[doppelganger]

@doppelganger
Islamic Republic of Iran is widely known in the West for exporting terror or state-sponsor of terrorism around the globe. Yet this country being majority Muslim rarely is hit by terrorist attacks when its neighboring Iraq and Pakistan is plagued by Islamist radical terrorism for decades. Again, terrorism is a symptom of bad or weak governance. And its nothing to do with religion of that country.

@haman10 @SOHEIL

@Norwegian

You give the examples of some Islamic or Islam dominant countries that are not plagued by terrorism. Because of "good governance"

Implying its not Islam but "bad governance" that leads to terrorism.

Well, I have news for you then. There are a ton of countries around the world that are basket cases of governance.

How many of those that have terrorism - and Islam is nowhere in the picture? Save Colombia, as pointed out above.

Do you see the mathematical equation developing here?

 

[TankMan]

Do you realize that of the 22 odd major hotspots around the world, only ONE, Colombia, is non-Islamic related?

Am sure one can stretch a point. But here the elastic seems to have snapped a long time back in the thread.

Currently.

Currently, 'Islamic' countries are geopolitical hotspots. A few decades ago, there were almost no 'Islamic-related' hotspots. Communists, Maoists, separatists, Irish Nationalists, Nazis, Tamil Tigers, Drug Cartels, Vietcong and the like were the terrorists because their regions were political hotspots. Nowadays, those regions are stabilizing while Muslim countries are the ones facing invasions and political games (Iraq Invasion, US double games in the Iran-Iraq war, Syria, Afghanistan, Somalia - I can go on and on) that destabilize them and give rise to terrorism.

Terrorist Groups in Latin America: The Changing Landscape
Guerrilla Insurgencies in Latin America - Oxford
Read up on history a bit.

 

[Dem!god]

actually it very much does....
I am sorry to say... but muslims are very much violent people...

 

[doppelganger]

Currently.

Currently, 'Islamic' countries are geopolitical hotspots. A few decades ago, there were almost no 'Islamic-related' hotspots. Communists, Maoists, separatists, Irish Nationalists, Nazis, Tamil Tigers, Drug Cartels, Vietcong and the like were the terrorists because their regions were political hotspots. Nowadays, those regions are stabilizing while Muslim countries are the ones facing invasions and political games (Iraq Invasion, US double games in the Iran-Iraq war, Syria, Afghanistan, Somalia - I can go on and on) that destabilize them and give rise to terrorism.

Terrorist Groups in Latin America: The Changing Landscape
Guerrilla Insurgencies in Latin America - Oxford
Read up on history a bit.

We are discussing current affairs here only. Not history.

The world has a Muslim terror problem now. Today.

We are not discussing the Crusades or Jihad a la Kingdom of Heaven here.