Does religion make Muslims more violent?

[TimeTraveller]

You need to start re-reading. Start with the Old Testament.

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@SarthakGanguly .....Sir i didn't understand what you said...Can you please explain it in simple words..........

 

[hunter_hunted]

Well i just came back from prayer . I didnt have rage and not doing chest thumping andnot shouting a warcry

 

[SipahSalar]

That will be somewhat derailing. You can tag me somewhere else. Some links here to ponder about.

Religious views of Adolf Hitler - Wikiquote
Check judiciously his views after he came to power, not before that.

Religious views of Adolf Hitler - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Also check these - all authentic sources, as quoted in the references.

Word for Word/The Case Against the Nazis - How Hitler's Forces Planned To Destroy German Christianity - NYTimes.com

The Church in Nazi Germany

The struggle of the Church to survive - Kirchenkampf - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Also, in the elite Schutzstaffel it was forbidden to attend Mass. The Nazi officials were also not allowed and the Army officers and rank were discouraged. All of this is recorded.

In contrast check his views on Islam. Yes, he greatly admired it.

Yes it's off-topic. But i need to mention only one quote from the book Mein Kampf, which you claim to have read and researched. "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.."
If you would like to argue against that, you will need to bring Hitler back from the grave, oh well.

 

[OTTOMAN]

Discussion on theology are not allowed?
or should i start? a thread on evil in hinduism?

 

[SipahSalar]

In contrast check his views on Islam. Yes, he greatly admired it.

That was propaganda hitler used to gain favor amongst arabs. Truth is he ranked arabs just below jews.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

mention only one quote from the book Mein Kampf, which you claim to have read and researched. "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.."
If you would like to argue against that, you will need to bring Hitler back from the grave, oh well.

Yes, I explicitly mentioned to focus on his views post elections and not speeches before that. In a Christian country you need to say what people want to hear.

That was propaganda hitler used to gain favor amongst arabs. Truth is he ranked arabs just below jews.

Incorrect, he had little place for Arabs. But not less than Jews. He had a pretty narrow world view. But for Islam he said only the good stuff - may be for propaganda. But then why would those speeches NOT be publicized? Especially when it could have lured many supporters.

 

[SipahSalar]

Yes, I explicitly mentioned to focus on his views post elections and not speeches before that. In a Christian country you need to say what people want to hear.

You must know hitler better than hitler himself. As i said earlier, i would rather go with what he claimed than speculation which is opposite to his words.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

You must know hitler better than hitler himself. As i said earlier, i would rather go with what he claimed than speculation which is opposite to his words.

Read about his table talk, Goebbel's Diaries etc. There are plenty of instances of his rants against Christianity and for Islam as late as 1945 February. By that time no Arab support was going to do anything. He had a positive to neutral view of Islam and a negative one of Christianity (which he considered weak and made a person soft). This is recorded by all of Hitler's biographers.

 

[midnightmasala]

Yes it does. Islam is a religion that preaches violence/crime on non-muslims, while teaching to muslims to repect only one another.

Well i just came back from prayer . I didnt have rage and not doing chest thumping andnot shouting a warcry

neither was OBL

 

[Soumitra]

Islam is not voilent but when some people who follow islam do voilence and try to justify it by claiming it is part of the religion and written in the Quran then it creates a negative mindset and perception in the rest of the people

 

[faisal6309]

No religion say to kill people of other belief by calling them infidels. It is religious figures. They cause violence in a society. I suggest that Government of Pakistan should create a new department (Islamic Reconstruction of Pakistan like) for research on Islam and to make sure every Molvi, Mufti and leaders of other religions are not misguiding people.

 

[midnightmasala]

Discussion on theology are not allowed?
or should i start? a thread on evil in hinduism?

please start. Hinduism is a collective term given to very disparate beliefs. if you point evil on one aspect 90% of people wont feel offended, because they know that Hinduism is fluid, self corrective and adaptable. ultimately hinduistic beliefs influenced islam in india to make it moderate and created the sufi releigion. now Sufism is dying out in pak because of absence of Hinduism. Anyways, its upto you to be violent to other religions as taught in your book.

No religion say to kill people of other belief by calling them infidels. It is religious figures. They cause violence in a society. I suggest that Government of Pakistan should create a new department (Islamic Reconstruction of Pakistan like) for research on Islam and to make sure every Molvi, Mufti and leaders of other religions are not misguiding people.

I beg to disagree. in islam there are many instances where they say to repect a fellow muslim. however the infidel . kufr are worthy of death. indfidel women are property and such. Look at the example od ISIS today. This is exactly what happened for centuries.
If ISIS can be be so barbaric in this day and age , imagine how wicked the muslim invaders of iran, india etc wold have been.

 

[asad71]

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Norwegian
We have a Book of revelations that is divine. We take the teachings seriously. That may be the reason why others lax on their faith may perceive us as violent.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Islam is not voilent but when some people who follow islam do voilence

Incorrect.

 

[midnightmasala]

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Norwegian
We have a Book of revelations that is divine. We take the teachings seriously. That may be the reason why others lax on their faith may perceive us as violent.

so you are saying that your so called divine book is violent?

Incorrect.

agree. islam tells muslims not to be violent with fellow muslims.. (although that was not even followed immediately after Mr mohammad's death) Islam encourages muslims to deceive, rob, pillage, kill , rape , grab properties of non-muslims.