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Does India really want lasting peace in Kashmir?

No it is not.

Ideology and faith lose to military and economic power all the time.

Welcome to the real world.

Cheers, Doc
No my dear.
Fall of Persian and Roman empire by Rashidun Caliphate, Sanussi movement of Umar Mukhtar and Battle of Karbala by Hazrat Imam Hussain R.A etc are real time example of Faith and Ideology.
If Handful True followers of Allah can liberate Azad Kashmir by the hands of Dogra Samraj and Afghanistan than Indian can be defeated.
"Burhan Wani will be remembered as a Tipu Sultan and Bhagat Singh of 21st century and Modi as a tyrant. "

Write my words.
 
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No my dear.
Fall of Persian and Roman empire by Rashidun Caliphate, Sanussi movement of Umar Mukhtar and Battle of Karbala by Hazrat Imam Hussain R.A etc are real time example of Faith and Ideology.
If Handful True followers of Allah can liberate Azad Kashmir by the hands of Dogra Samraj and Afghanistan than Indian can be defeated.
"Burhan Wani will be remembered as a Tipu Sultan and Bhagat Singh of 21st century and Modi as a tyrant. "

Write my words.

Look around you today Burhan.

Tell me what you see around the world.

Not just our part of the world.

Can you give me one example where faith is beating economic and military power?

I'll write it down.

Cheers, Doc
 
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Look around you today Burhan.

Tell me what you see around the world.

Not just our part of the world.

Can you give me one example where faith is beating economic and military power?

I'll write it down.

Cheers, Doc
Dr Sb.
There are many examples from around the world i can enlist here.
I will give you the example of Kashmir because it is the subject of our discussion. YOu since 1989 uprising lost thousands of soldiers and resources just because to crush freedom movement. Yes there were different phases of Ups and Downs but resistance is still there. It is our Faith and Ideology which is reason behind our current strength almost less than 200 active militants who are able to enter the Garrisons of your soldiers and kill them while they were sleeping. If we drastically increase our numbers from 200 to 2000 then it will be difficult for 7 lak army to move freely on roads.
Once there was a Newton of Kashmir a board topper 95% marks in 10th Grade and 86% in 12th. After his martyrdom with two other comrades one more from his family Shakoor entered mujahideen ranks recently. Yesterday a blonde youngster who was look alike another martyr from PUlwama joined freedom ranks.
You kill one more will join freedom struggle this the example of our faith and ideology which can never been completely defeated.

 
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Dr Sb.
There are many examples from around the world i can enlist here.
I will give you the example of Kashmir because it is the subject of our discussion. YOu since 1989 uprising lost thousands of soldiers and resources just because to crush freedom movement. Yes there were different phases of Ups and Downs but resistance is still there. It is our Faith and Ideology which is reason behind our current strength almost less than 200 active militants who are able to enter the Garrisons of your soldiers and kill them while they were sleeping. If we drastically increase our numbers from 200 to 2000 then it will be difficult for 7 lak army to move freely on roads.
Once there was a Newton of Kashmir a board topper 95% marks in 10th Grade and 86% in 12th. After his martyrdom with two other comrades one more from his family Shakoor entered mujahideen ranks recently. Yesterday a blonde youngster who was look alike another martyr from PUlwama joined freedom ranks.
You kill one more will join freedom struggle this the example of our faith and ideology which can never been completely defeated.


Burhan, our military response will be ratcheted according to the threat level faced.

I'll leave it at that without getting into unpleasant details ...

Cheers, Doc

@Burhan Wani

I am waiting for that one example from you to make your point.

Cheers, Doc
 
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Burhan, our military response will be ratcheted according to the threat level faced.

I'll leave it at that without getting into unpleasant details ...

Cheers, Doc

@Burhan Wani

I am waiting for that one example from you to make your point.

Cheers, Doc
I will never compromise the sacrifices of one Lakh martyrs of Kashmir. If your military scared us then there will be no freedom camps running across and inside valley. Your days in Kashmir will be equal to the lives of your soldiers. Our faith can even blow your tanks before crossing the red line.
These issues can easily be solved via table talks and civilized manner. Peace and harmony is in your hands now choice is yours we are not going to leave our brothers across the valley helpless.
 
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I will never compromise the sacrifices of one Lakh martyrs of Kashmir. If your military scared us then there will be no freedom camps running across and inside valley. Your days in Kashmir will be equal to the lives of your soldiers. Our faith can even blow your tanks before crossing the red line.
These issues can easily be solved via table talks and civilized manner. Peace and harmony is in your hands now choice is yours we are not going to leave our brothers across the valley helpless.

But what about the one instance of faith beating money and firepower?

Cheers, Doc
 
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Journalist is right...Why India will want peace in Kashmir if it does not suit to its core intrest...This is a topic diacussed in detail at various foroums...

ISIS will eventully come to Kashmir...but if Pakistan thinks that he will not be impacted due to the prsence of ISIS then think about it again....

Bottom line is that if India can manage cruel display of violence by militants in 1989 then India can sustain the threat in future too...Kashmir is not our economic engine...so we can sustain another generation of militancy...but Pakistan has a bigger stake than India in reaolving kashmir issue as it is morw for your intreat to have peace due to CPEC is goung through Kashmir too...

I will never compromise the sacrifices of one Lakh martyrs of Kashmir. If your military scared us then there will be no freedom camps running across and inside valley. Your days in Kashmir will be equal to the lives of your soldiers. Our faith can even blow your tanks before crossing the red line.
These issues can easily be solved via table talks and civilized manner. Peace and harmony is in your hands now choice is yours we are not going to leave our brothers across the valley helpless.
 
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But what about the one instance of faith beating money and firepower?

Cheers, Doc
Examples has been given.
Azad KAshmir is the living example, freedom struggle is there, youngsters are joining one after one. Your firepower can only scare Bhutan not us and your money can only give you Rafal fighter jets but not going to effect our movement.
 
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Examples has been given.
Azad KAshmir is the living example, freedom struggle is there, youngsters are joining one after one. Your firepower can only scare Bhutan not us and your money can only give you Rafal fighter jets but not going to effect our movement.

How is Kashmir an example?

Do you hold Kashmir?

No. We do.

How does it matter if 5 or 10 or 50 or 100 more Kashmiri youth take up arms man.

Do you think they can do what the Pakistan Army has tried again and again and failed to do?

Cheers, Doc
 
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Kashmir will become PEACEFUL by 2030 pr 2040 latest

By Then INDIA will be the 3rd BIGGEST ECONIOMY in the world with GDP touching between 7 and 8 Trillion dollars

Where as today India is only 8 times the ECONOMY of PAKISTAN by 2030 this will be 12 times the size and by 2040 16 times the size.

At that moment PAKISTANI ISI and Army will STOP the fundng and trerror support IMO

India WILL SIMPLY be TOO BIG too powerful
 
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We want peace in valley on OUR terms, until we get that these so called "stakeholders" will be given a strong dose of SAAM DAAM DAND BHED.
 
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How is Kashmir an example?

Do you hold Kashmir?

No. We do.

How does it matter if 5 or 10 or 50 or 100 more Kashmiri youth take up arms man.

Do you think they can do what the Pakistan Army has tried again and again and failed to do?

Cheers, Doc
YOu cannot win their heart with guns and blood. Jammu and Kashmir is a part of Indian illegal occupation and you are facing a resistance movement inside Kashmir which clearly indicates that residents are not happy.
It matters a lot when youngsters replace the ranks of martyred Mujahid because it will give message to occupied forces that a single loss cannot loose our strength and courage.
 
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YOu cannot win their heart with guns and blood. Jammu and Kashmir is a part of Indian illegal occupation and you are facing a resistance movement inside Kashmir which clearly indicates that residents are not happy.
It matters a lot when youngsters replace the ranks of martyred Mujahid because it will give message to occupied forces that a single loss cannot loose our strength and courage.

We will of course keep trying to keep Kashmiri boys from going rogue. Trying to mainstream Kashmir (though personally I think those are empty words - not one government, especially this one, has done anything different in this regard this far. We are and have been in a holding pattern. Nothing more).

But if that does not work, or takes more time than we would like, that does not mean one fine day we'll get up and say ok man, bahut ho gaya. Ab sir nahin hota. Mai ja raha hun.

That option is simply not on the table Burhan.

Coz like you want the land (let's be honest here), we also want the land.

Only difference between us is that we have the land.

And we fully intend to hold it. And are more than capable of doing so.

Forever.

Our conversation is just one generation. There have been and will be countless others.

Cheers, Doc
 
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We will of course keep trying to keep Kashmiri boys from going rogue. Trying to mainstream Kashmir (though personally I think those are empty words - not one government, especially this one, has done anything different in this regard this far. We are and have been in a holding pattern. Nothing more).

But if that does not work, or takes more time than we would like, that does not mean one fine day we'll get up and say ok man, bahut ho gaya. Ab sir nahin hota. Mai ja raha hun.

That option is simply not on the table Burhan.

Coz like you want the land (let's be honest here), we also want the land.

Only difference between us is that we have the land.

And we fully intend to hold it. And are more than capable of doing so.

Forever.

Our conversation is just one generation. There have been and will be countless others.

Cheers, Doc
Kashmir resolution is a step for peace and harmony. You need it more because armed struggle is in your part at least think about your soldiers dying during encounters.
You cannot halt our movement by any means.
 
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Kashmir will become PEACEFUL by 2030 pr 2040 latest

By Then INDIA will be the 3rd BIGGEST ECONIOMY in the world with GDP touching between 7 and 8 Trillion dollars

Where as today India is only 8 times the ECONOMY of PAKISTAN by 2030 this will be 12 times the size and by 2040 16 times the size.

At that moment PAKISTANI ISI and Army will STOP the fundng and trerror support IMO

India WILL SIMPLY be TOO BIG too powerful
GDP wont bring peace, learn from your past and present..Indian GDP increases so the freedom struggle.
 
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