Does China have locally-made ASCM as fast as Brahmos?

[mnd]

1- Brahmos is not Indian, it´s a Yakhont offshoot made for export-

2- Russia is the only country which developes cruise missiles in the supersonic range.

China's supersonic cruise missiles: C-101, C-301, C-803, C-805, KD-88, and YJ-91 which travels at 4.5 mach

None of them are chinese developed. These are either designations for imported ones or obsolete copies. And yes, there is/was Russian cooperation with China in missile technology, nothing deep though, local assembly or consults.

I still do not understand why Russia developed the missile and is not using it herself.

This is made only for export as said. Domestic Onyx is way more capable, with warhead and range not restriced to export policies.

ohh yes.. the Dong Feng 21D.It is the World's first anti-ship ballistic missile aimed at denying the enemy the supremacy over the waters.Nick-named as the Carrier-killer,the DF-21D,can attack a moving aircraft carrier from a range as long as 3000km.

Yeah. Iskander precission ballistic missile, range 2000km and capable of hitting moving targets, as ships. What else? Provide something not exagerated by western yellow press.

 

[scuthan]

Russia is the only country which developes cruise missiles in the supersonic range.


None of them are chinese developed. These are either designations for imported ones or obsolete copies. And yes, there is/was Russian cooperation with China in missile technology, nothing deep though, local assembly or consults.


Yeah. Iskander precission ballistic missile, range 2000km and capable of hitting moving targets, as ships. What else? Provide something not exagerated by western yellow press.

1. lots of countries have supersonic anti-ship missiles.including taiwan and China. Russian's high-speed and high-altitude missiles are designed based on obsolete ideas which were abandoned by western countries.

2. China did purchased missiles like SS-N-22 from Russia before. but none of china's mainstream anti-ship missiles today (e.g. C802/C803) have anything to do with Russia. the Development of chinese anti-ship missiles were on different path with Russia at very beginning.

2. Russia does not have ASBM. Iskander is totally different thing from DF-21D. the guidance of ASBM is far complicated than conventional tactical ballastic missiles.

google before brag about your superior russian toys

 

[cloneman]

1- Brahmos is not Indian, it´s a Yakhont offshoot made for export-

2- Russia is the only country which developes cruise missiles in the supersonic range.


None of them are chinese developed. These are either designations for imported ones or obsolete copies. And yes, there is/was Russian cooperation with China in missile technology, nothing deep though, local assembly or consults.


This is made only for export as said. Domestic Onyx is way more capable, with warhead and range not restriced to export policies.



Yeah. Iskander precission ballistic missile, range 2000km and capable of hitting moving targets, as ships. What else? Provide something not exagerated by western yellow press.

Lol,when did Russia got involved in the development of C101 and C301 which were developed in the 1980s?And how will the USSR help China to develop a missile when each side stationed millions of army on the border? By the way,C101 and C301 never largely induced into the PLA,How could China to import it from Russia? And do you have any idea how the YJ-91 look like since there is so less information that even the Chinese military experts have no idea about it?
C-101 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
C-301 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Besides Russia is not the only country to develop the supsonic anti ship missiles.Even tiny Taiwan has its HF-3,lol.
Taiwan Military deploying its HF-3 anti-ship missile | China Military Power Mashup

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Don't worry, we will have our laser defence system to easily counter against that piece of cake Brahmos.

 

[cloneman]

As we all know, China has the Sunburn and Yakhont Anti-Ship Cruise Missile onboard PLAN destroyers and subs. However, those missiles are imported from Russia and not locally produced. Does China have any locally-made ASCMs with a speed of Mach 2.5 like the Sunburn or 2.8 like Brahmos? I know China has locally-made anti-ship missiles, but they're not reaching Mach 2.8 or above, right?

Why high speed is good, because it gives the defender less time to react, especially more so if the missile not only has speed but a stealth front profile. I also hope that China develops an ASCM with a speed of Mach 5 and range of 400km to compete with Brahmos-2, which will have a speed over Mach 5!! Info below:

BrahMos-2 hypersonic missile to be 'uninerceptable'?, page 1
BrahMos - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
domain-b.com : Development of hypersonic, BrahMos-2 version to begin this year

The answer is yes.The PLA had developed supersonic anti ship missiles(C101 and the improved c301) in the 1980s,but never seriousely induced.C101 and C301 soon retired from the PLA in the 1990s.Most of them were used to test the efficency of air defence missiles.
The C101(YJ-1)

 

[mnd]

Everybody can attempt to develope these missiles. Succeed... Not. Taiwan? They have a big foreign tech input, and good luck with that "thing" hope it works, as the rest of eastern Asian (Korean, Jap) projects.

On Chinese, political relations did not prevent them from gathering foreign/additional technologies, or copy. Meanwhile, most info regarding these chinese armament is overrated or missinformation, coupled with sensationalistic press.

 

[cloneman]

Everybody can attempt to develope these missiles. Succeed... Not. Taiwan? They have a big foreign tech input, and good luck with that "thing" hope it works, as the rest of eastern Asian (Korean, Jap) projects.

On Chinese, political relations did not prevent them from gathering foreign/additional technologies, or copy. Meanwhile, most info regarding these chinese armament is overrated or missinformation, coupled with sensationalistic press.

1.Wrong,Korea or Japanese dont have supersonic anti-ship missiles or related projects.
2.You mentioned the Yj-91 is a copy of russian product,Can you bother to post a YJ-91 PICTURE?

 

[Aramsogo]

Everybody can attempt to develope these missiles. Succeed... Not. Taiwan? They have a big foreign tech input, and good luck with that "thing" hope it works, as the rest of eastern Asian (Korean, Jap) projects.

On Chinese, political relations did not prevent them from gathering foreign/additional technologies, or copy. Meanwhile, most info regarding these chinese armament is overrated or missinformation, coupled with sensationalistic press.

So what is the difference between Brahmos, Yakhont and Chinese Yakhont on the Sovremenny class ??

 

[ao333]

1.Wrong,Korea or Japanese dont have supersonic anti-ship missiles or related projects.
2.You mentioned the Yj-91 is a copy of russian product,Can you bother to post a YJ-91 PICTURE?

Why bother with Belarus? They're so poor they can't even pay their subsidized energy bill to Russia. They're about your level in per capita output, but obviously, a lot smaller.

 

[xLancex]

India is the only country in the world to have deployed a supersonic cruise missile.

Doesn't Russia operate them as well?

 

[cloneman]

Why bother with Belarus? They're so poor they can't even pay their subsidized energy bill to Russia. They're about your level in per capita output, but obviously, a lot smaller.

Please dont get personal and ruin this thread.And I realy want to see the famouse YJ-91 if this guy has a picture.

 

[Akasa]

I'm not too familiar with the physics of anti-ship missiles, but subsonic missiles offer huge maneuverability and evasion advantages over supersonic ones. That's why the US chose the path of subsonic missiles and China is beginning to do so as well.

China also have missiles capable of going up to and beyond Mach 2.5, such as the YJ-12 and YJ-22, and the Chinese YJ-91 is capable of traveling as fast as Mach 4.5.

Chinese long range land attack cruise missiles, such as the CJ-10, can also fly at Mach 2.25.

 

[Akasa]

India is the only country in the world to have deployed a supersonic cruise missile.

Some things for you to research:

- CJ-10 -- Mach 2.25
- YJ-83 -- Mach 1.6
- YJ-12 -- Mach 2.5
- YJ-22 -- Mach 2.5
- YJ-91 -- Mach 4.5
- C-301 -- Mach 2.5
- C-101 -- Mach 2
- FL-7 -- Mach 1.4

 

[Akasa]

We have gone through this many times. What is funny is that the aircraft carrier is found to have all sorts of vulnerabilities but when the DF-21's vulnerabilities are exposed and examined......Everyone scatters.

Please, do explain. I'm curious, actually.

 

[Akasa]

Please dont get personal and ruin this thread.And I realy want to see the famouse YJ-91 if this guy has a picture.

Mach 4.5 coming right up...