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Initially I thought to open this thread in 'Members' club', then I thought this must be a common problem in this part of the world, and need to be highlighted with due importance, so opened this thread in this section. However, final call is for the moderators to take.

Doctors with conscience speak out
Rema Nagarajan, TNN | Feb 22, 2015, 06.24AM IST

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Corporate hospitals only want doctors who can help them earn more money.

NEW DELHI: In order to benefit the hospital and meet its commercial needs, one has to do things like keeping patients in the hospital longer than necessary, and doing unnecessary investigations and procedures (including angioplasty) since there was pressure from the management of the hospital.

My conscience began pricking and I left the hospital- Dr Gautam Mistry, Kolkata, cardiologist who left a corporate hospital after seven years.

A reference for angioplasty can earn a doctor Rs 30,000-40,000 - Dr Rajendra Malose, general practitioner, Nashik

Recently, a young doctor who joined our department told me, "Sir, every month there is a meeting with the CEO. He asks me questions because instead of having a 40% conversion rate for OPD-operative as per the target, my conversion rate is just 10-15%. (Conversion rate means out of all patients seen by the doctor, how many are advised to undergo surgery or procedures. Rational doctors try to keep this rate low, but profit-driven hospitals try to maximise number of surgeries and procedures, even if they are unnecessary). He tells me that such low conversion rate will not do, and that unless I increase it, I will have to leave the hospital." This young doctor will certainly surrender one day. To survive professionally, he will start doing 20-25% of additional procedures that are not required by medical logic. What choice does he have?"... And each corporate hospital has such targets! There is no getting out of it. - Super specialist from a metro

Pharma companies are giving foreign tours and junkets to doctors. It happens under the pretext of medical study. Unfortunately, some doctors eagerly wait for the pharma company invitation for foreign tours- Dr HV Sardesai, physician Pune.

Corporate hospitals only want doctors who can help them earn more money. As a result doctors who practise ethically cannot last there. I know of a hospital where if a patient is charged Rs 1.5 lakh, the doctor gets a mere Rs 15,000. 90% of the income goes to the corporate coffers. Corporate hospitals can advertise while individual doctors are not allowed- Dr Sanjay Gupte, gynaecologist, Pune, ex-national president of the Federation of Obstetric and Gynaecological Societies of India (FOGSI)

These are just a few of the shocking revelations by 78 doctors from small towns to every one of the megacities who are critical of the growing commercialisation of medical care. The doctors range from general practitioners to super specialists in corporate hospitals. These interviews that expose the corruption in private healthcare have been put together by SATHI (Support for Advocacy and Training to Health Initiatives), an NGO, to highlight the lack of regulation of the sector.

A report based on these interviews titled, "Voices of Conscience from the Medical Profession: Revealing testimonies by rational doctors about the reality of private medical practice in India" has been put together by Dr Arun Gadre, a doctor and writer with 20 years' experience of working as a gynaecologist in rural Maharashtra, and Dr Abhay Shukla, convenor of SATHI who did his MBBS and MD from AIIMS.

The report will be released at the All India Institute of Medical Sciences (AIIMS) on February 26, in a function to be attended by AIIMS director Dr MC Mishra, senior gastrointestinal surgeon Dr Samiran Nundy of Sir Ganga Ram Hospital, and several of the doctors from across the country who have spoken out in the report.

The report is an English translation of the recently published Marathi report 'Kaifiyat - pramanik doctoranchi', which is being widely read in Maharashtra and is already into its second edition. An enlarged version of this report is soon to be published as a book.

"These 'whistleblower' doctors have exposed, perhaps for the first time on such a scale and in so many dimensions, the realities of the private medical sector today such as frequent irrational procedures and surgeries, the distorting influence of corporate and multi-specialty hospitals on ethics of the medical profession, and the growing grip of pharmaceutical companies on private medical practice. With testimonies by rational doctors from across India, this report can be an eye-opener for ordinary citizens as well as doctors, and could strengthen social support for much-needed moves to effectively regulate the private medical sector in India," explained Dr Shukla.

According to him, the government is trying to dilute the Clinical Establishments Act of 2010 on the grounds that outdated laws have to be changed. " The rules were passed in 2012 and the standards are yet to be formulated because of which it has not been implemented. Even before its implementation you are saying it is outdated. There is a strong lobby of the corporate health sector and the Indian Medical Association, the biggest lobby of doctors in India, that are trying to completely eliminate any kind of regulation. It is total jungle raj now. This is the larger policy environment in which we are releasing the report," said Dr Shukla.

Public health activists have stressed the need to urgently step up regulation of the private health sector rather than dilute whatever little regulation exists. "Doctors have their lobbying groups like the IMA, which will speak of their interests. Society needs to speak up and lobby for the interests of the patients," said Dr Shukla.

Doctors with conscience speak out - The Times of India
 
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All true and same (may be worst) conditions here in Pakistan.
I am a strong believer that Education and Health should never be thrown in the hand of Corporate/Private sector. Raise taxes ratio like Scandinavian countries but these two sectors should be run on no profit no loss base.
 
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All true and same (may be worst) conditions here in Pakistan.
I am a strong believer that Education and Health should never be thrown in the hand of Corporate/Private sector. Raise taxes ratio like Scandinavian countries but these two sectors should be run on no profit no loss base.

Strict regulation and control in health sector is of utmost importance, it is very easy to fleece helpless patients and their families even if they are educated. I have heard horrible stories from my friends working in health sector as doctors or as employees in drug companies. I have personal experience of their wrong doing also, the problem is that even if you understand their intention, you still cannot take chances and end up getting robbed. These guys are nothing but white collar criminals.
 
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Didnt read op:D
but this is me speaking out
lemme tell u what happened yestrday.
I was on duty in emergency/trauma block in place of my frnd,who had to leave for a couple of hours.
two guys came wailing,,they had a accident,just outside the hospital(a private one),,,both were on bikes.duty nurse asked them to make an emergency ticket first,,,but they kept crying n wanted treatment ,,,so I examined thm,,,one had few minor bruises n d 2nd one had shoulder dislocation....after reduction,tt,dressing,pain killers n some rest,,they felt better n ready to leave....i reminded them to pay there bill at the billing counter on there way out n to come for review in opd.
u know what,,,those guys didnt pay,,,,no prize for guessing,,,who had to pay there bill :cray:
 
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Didnt read op:D
but this is me speaking out
lemme tell u what happened yestrday.
I was on duty in emergency/trauma block in place of my frnd,who had to leave for a couple of hours.
two guys came wailing,,they had a accident,just outside the hospital(a private one),,,both were on bikes.duty nurse asked them to make an emergency ticket first,,,but they kept crying n wanted treatment ,,,so I examined thm,,,one had few minor bruises n d 2nd one had shoulder dislocation....after reduction,tt,dressing,pain killers n some rest,,they felt better n ready to leave....i reminded them to pay there bill at the billing counter on there way out n to come for review in opd.
u know what,,,those guys didnt pay,,,,no prize for guessing,,,who had to pay there bill :cray:

Police information diya ki nei ?. RTA case hain na? I report almost every fooking RTA to local police thana :D
 
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Police information diya ki nei ?. RTA case hain na? I report almost every fooking RTA to local police thana :D
bhaley kora,,mlc koribo lagisil,moihe besi koribo goi thog khalu,,,,kutta kitai gadho bonai gol:hitwall:
 
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bhaley kora,,mlc koribo lagisil,moihe besi koribo goi thog khalu,,,,kutta kitai gadho bonai gol:hitwall:
ketia o' neriba hebur case . noholey ketia ba nijey phosi jaba .In this case doubly so , one call from Police station and they would have come running to you.
 
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Doctory is ibadat, if you dont feel that way then other motivation is money......unfortunately doctors are mostly motivated by money
 
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Police information diya ki nei ?. RTA case hain na? I report almost every fooking RTA to local police thana :D
Dude how can you report rta without evidence of opd paper. When I was in phc , I sent all rta to chc saying no x-ray available. :p::p:
 
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u speak out too bro,,,,any xperience
not much but a couple of month ago a fellow doctor was questioned by local police for not reporting a case of death of a young female , brought dead on arrival.
 
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not much but recently a couple of month ago a fellow doctor was questioned by local police for not reporting a case of death of a young female , brought dead on arrival.
tene case'ot tu fosiboi,,,,during my internship,,,eta attendentok pitisilu:angel: nurse'ok gali parisil,,,pisot police'y muk jera koribo ahisil,,hod'ye bosale :p:
 
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Didnt read op:D
but this is me speaking out
lemme tell u what happened yestrday.
I was on duty in emergency/trauma block in place of my frnd,who had to leave for a couple of hours.
two guys came wailing,,they had a accident,just outside the hospital(a private one),,,both were on bikes.duty nurse asked them to make an emergency ticket first,,,but they kept crying n wanted treatment ,,,so I examined thm,,,one had few minor bruises n d 2nd one had shoulder dislocation....after reduction,tt,dressing,pain killers n some rest,,they felt better n ready to leave....i reminded them to pay there bill at the billing counter on there way out n to come for review in opd.
u know what,,,those guys didnt pay,,,,no prize for guessing,,,who had to pay there bill :cray:

You are still young, 20 years down the line you would be billing them for Rs.150,000/- in a similar incident. :P

Corporate hospitals will change you, or you will quit such hospitals, I know a few who have.
 
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tene case'ot tu fosiboi,,,,during my internship,,,eta attendentok pitisilu:angel: nurse'ok gali parisil,,,pisot police'y muk jera koribo ahisil,,hod'ye bosale :p:

No, in medical colleges there is always someone to cover you , besides you are not responsible unless ofcourse you are the MO/Prof on duty ,but in CHCs and FRU or State dispensary you are the boss and totally responsible for your actions. I m always very careful.

Dude how can you report rta without evidence of opd paper. When I was in pic, I sent all rta to chc saying no x-ray available. :p::p:
True ,but least he could have record their name and add and inform the police that pt. refused for OPD registration but treatment provided in self defense and pure altruism ..:lol:
 
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No, in medical colleges there is always someone to cover you , besides you are not responsible unless ofcourse you are the MO/Prof on duty ,but in CHCs and FRU or State dispensary you are the boss and totally responsible for your actions. I m always very careful.


True ,but least he could have record their name and add and inform the police that pt. refused for OPD registration but treatment provided in self defense and pure altruism ..:lol:
bhul hoi gol,,,,,,xeketak ketiaba aako pale bhal moza dim roba,,,sob bodmas,,lootok ihotok,kunu dukh nai. :mad:
 
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Dude how can you report rta without evidence of opd paper. When I was in phc , I sent all rta to chc saying no x-ray available. :p::p:

Very bad :):disagree::lol:

Doctory is ibadat, if you dont feel that way then other motivation is money......unfortunately doctors are mostly motivated by money

Welcome to the real world......... :)
 
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