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A plea from a young doctor

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Dear people,

I do not receive any pay, perks or privileges for my job. I have to work 28 days a month with only two Sundays off. Every week, I have to perform emergency duties at least once for 12 continuous hours, apart from ward duties that extend up to 30 consecutive hours.

Who am I?

You guessed it – I am a young doctor working in a public sector hospital in Pakistan.

This hospital is in Punjab and I’ve been working here for some time now. There are three main departments in any hospital namely the emergency department, the indoor department and the outdoor department. The emergency department (ER) is open 24 hours a day and caters to patients who are acutely ill. The outdoor department functions eight hours a day for patients who are ill but their basic functional capacity is not massively impaired. Patients who need monitoring and further treatment are admitted in the indoor department.

My colleagues and I are in the eye of the storm because of our demand to formulate a service structure for doctors. The same demand was made by doctors at the time when my father graduated form medical school back in 1980.

The attitude of successive governments has not changed in the slightest in the last 33 years. After last year’s protests, the government had promised to act upon grievances of doctors and that included the demand for a service structure. After countless committees and deliberations held amongst doctors and representatives of the government, a proposed plan was presented. However, it was rejected by the health department of the Government of Punjab in the end.

The deadline given by the government expired on June 7, 2012. Following that, seminars were conducted throughout the province by the Young Doctors Association (YDA) to enlighten the medical community about what the service structure is and why it is important.

In the third week of June, it was decided that until our demands are met, Outdoor Patient Departments (OPDs) will remain closed. This was meant to be a token gesture and not a full fledged protest because patients from OPDs could go to the ER – which they do a lot of times to get the required treatment.

Like last year, the electronic media went in an overdrive in their propaganda against young doctors and their ‘brutality’.

Despite getting bruised multiple times by the bitter truth espoused by representatives of young doctors, TV anchors and reporters went on defaming my profession and my fellow professionals. I must admit that in the last few years there have been isolated incidences in which some members of the YDA behaved rudely with people and there were instances of physical fights but that has been an exception, not a rule. It should not be forgotten that the same doctors closed OPDs last year and worked in tents outside their hospitals in return for no fee from patients.

The intransigence shown by the Punjab government in this aspect is shameful, to say the least. It has disgraced itself and its employees. Let me recount the tactics used by the state machinery in this whole scenario.

First came the threats; a notification was immediately issued which cancelled leave for all employees and emphasised that no one should abstain from their duty. In case of absence, arrest by the police was stated as a threat to doctors.

Then came the news that army doctors have been called in to fill in for us in the government hospitals. There was a deliberate misinformation campaign started by the Punjab government against doctors, portraying them as mercenaries. As proven by a representative of YDA, the figures given in those ads are totally wrong.




On Sunday night, a meeting involving the leaders of YDA was disrupted by the police and doctors were arrested. It was accompanied by vandalism in the doctors’ hostel in Services Hospital, Lahore. Some medical students were even arrested and various wards, including the ER, were thrashed.

After such appalling actions against us, doctors are thinking of shutting down the indoor departments as well.

The major questions being raised these days are:

1. Why are doctors protesting?

2. Should doctors go on strikes?

3. Why are people dying while doctors are not providing them stipulated services?

I have answered question number one in detail above. Regarding the third question, I will reiterate that closure of OPDs does not lead to any deaths because patients in a critical condition are attended to in the emergency departments of major hospitals. Isolated incidents in smaller cities should not mean doctors are simply not working at other places. The most important question is question number two.

Doctors, like other professionals, are also human beings. Doctors, like other human beings, also have needs and demands. If a whole year of protests and committees could not procure a change in the stances of the opposing party, what are we supposed to do next? Are we to start immolating petrol pumps and blocking roads?

I believe the smear campaign, started by Khadim-e-Ala’s government, should be countered by doctors- and they are doing so, as much as they can, by participating in talk shows. Unfortunately, we do not enjoy endless state resources to get ads printed in national newspapers nor do we have the ears of media personnel close to our pockets. What we can do is plea, and that is what I am doing.

My fellow countrymen, we are not the aggressors or brutes. We never wished harm for any of our patients. The only option left for us─ if the government does not accede─ is to either leave the profession or leave the country.

If you cannot help us with this, please do not start believing in the state’s propaganda without finding out for yourselves. That is the least you can do for all the services we have provided you in the past.

Yours truly,

A young doctor

Read more by Abdul Majeed here or follow him on Twitter @abdulmajeedabid

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After 10 dead poor pakistanis going to gravyards, pakistani nation is calling them killers & killersdont deserve, any sampthy, any increase of payment , or other demands.
YDA doctors only deserve , a drakroom in the prison , & Death by hanging.

Well its tobe put on record, PTI & PPP is behind, this YDA strike, in all the talk shows , PTI & PPP are having same arguments, which were posted on this thread by PTI members.

Shame on YDA & its supporter!
 
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The doctors strike was a bit wrong in the first place but now this Shahbaz Sharif government has gone bonkers.

Yesterday, in Shaikh Zayed hospital hostels, doctors were dragged out of their rooms at 1 o clock in the night, and beaten up.

A doctor at Mayo Hospital was beaten to the limit. The doctor had a cardiac arrest at that moment and sever brain damage, and is in a ventilator right now. Doctors from mayo hospital are now leaving on protest, not YDA, but all doctors. and this had to happen.

Why is the police coming in and beating them up and putting them up in ventilators??? Why is police dragging them out and beating them? Shahbaz Sharif can't handle this and it is hurting his ego.

Doctors are now refusing to work for Shahbaz Sharif, not for patients or hospital, but they have stopped working against the ego of Shabaz sharif.

Either take them to courts, or do something else. Beating them to death is no solution. Taking the health ministry for yourself is going to yield these results. He only sits there to take commission, nothing else.

The doctors' demand is also legitimate, to get a proper promotion structure, but they were wrong in their way, and now the government is wrong.

Reason that nothing is getting to the media is because it is on a shutdown, the whole of geo is now effectively bought out by N league
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The doctor's demand should now be met, and they be given a proper service structure, proper promotion system.

They might not get the direct 19 grade or anything, but atleast a proper promotion system.

My cousin works his but* off for 12 hours straight everyday, yes, these days too, and still if he does not get his proper promotion, then he will get angry.

Doctors are supposed to be saviours and all, but in the end, they also have to feed somebody.

A proper promotion system is the basic need.

they were wrong in their approach to the issue, locking hospitals and all, but their demand was perfectly legitimate.
 
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The doctors strike was a bit wrong in the first place but now this Shahbaz Sharif government has gone bonkers.

Yesterday, in Shaikh Zayed hospital hostels, doctors were dragged out of their rooms at 1 o clock in the night, and beaten up.

A doctor at Mayo Hospital was beaten to the limit. The doctor had a cardiac arrest at that moment and sever brain damage, and is in a ventilator right now. Doctors from mayo hospital are now leaving on protest, not YDA, but all doctors. and this had to happen.

Why is the police coming in and beating them up and putting them up in ventilators??? Why is police dragging them out and beating them? Shahbaz Sharif can't handle this and it is hurting his ego.

Doctors are now refusing to work for Shahbaz Sharif, not for patients or hospital, but they have stopped working against the ego of Shabaz sharif.

Either take them to courts, or do something else. Beating them to death is no solution. Taking the health ministry for yourself is going to yield these results. He only sits there to take commission, nothing else.

The doctors' demand is also legitimate, to get a proper promotion structure, but they were wrong in their way, and now the government is wrong.

Reason that nothing is getting to the media is because it is on a shutdown, the whole of geo is now effectively bought out by N league
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Yes beating is really bad, these YDA guys are wrong but it doesn't mean that they be treated as hardened criminals, they are educated and soft people. Secondly this attitude by government would blur the issue and may be senior doctors also join them for inhuman treatment.
 
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Yes beating is really bad, these YDA guys are wrong but it doesn't mean that they be treated as hardened criminals, they are educated and soft people. Secondly this attitude by government would blur the issue and may be senior doctors also join them for inhuman treatment.

why not ? i would like to see them bleeding as people dying because of them simple revenge .:no:

police is right in this case:lol:
 
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Agreed. So who's holding the gun to the YD's heads to work for the Government?





Then they should have considered the same and perhaps carried out partial strikes to ensure that patients did not suffer.....did they consider the ills of the poorest of the country?





How many times do I have to tell you that I earn 1/3rd what my friends earn in private institutions, however this is what I chose and I cannot start blackmailing the Government just because I chose to work for the Government!





In 1 moment you have shamed the entire police department just because there are some black sheep. Just the other day I was reading news that a policeman returned Rs. 5.5 million, that in found in a bag on the street, to the owner......how many other Pakistanis would have done the same?



Actually, Punjab Government is cracking down on oath offenders....these bastards are accepting salaries for not working, rather to carry out strikes! I have Punjab Government makes an example out of them all!

Well, doing strikes for better wages and better employment condition's is not unethical nor does qualify as blackmailing. The new doctors work under very harsh conditions and therefore deserve better employment conditions. The government doesn't listen to them so they have been doing this since last year. Punjab government did not kept its promise of raising salaries from last year.

The majority of policemen is not like that swat policeman. If you are curies, just sometime go to a random police station or ask majority of Pakistanis of their opinion of police.
 
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its a false propaganda that patients are dying because of YDA strike .
Everyday patients die in Emergency department and its a normal thing in emergency , In OPDs patients dont die because patients who are brought to OPDs are not usually in serious conditions , Emergencies were working but now Punjab Govt make this condition more worst .
MS nisthar hospital also clarify that not a single patient is died because of strike .

hahaha, doctors ki chitrol, and doctor 09 will not like this :D
i cant like beating of women by the hands of punjab police . shame on Punjab police and Punjab Govt.
If you like this then i cant say anything .
 
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only 150 army doctors cant even run a single OPD of a big hospital . And punjab govt is just bringing doctors from periphery and even from jehlum and attock and from other place to run hospitals in big cities , what about the patients in those areas ? dont they need doctors ? Punjab Govt is behaving like a kid .
 
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its a false propaganda that patients are dying because of YDA strike .
Everyday patients die in Emergency department and its a normal thing in emergency , In OPDs patients dont die because patients who are brought to OPDs are not usually in serious conditions , Emergencies were working but now Punjab Govt make this condition more worst .
MS nisthar hospital also clarify that not a single patient is died because of strike .


i cant like beating of women by the hands of punjab police . shame on Punjab police and Punjab Govt.
If you like this then i cant say anything .

Liars open up your eyes, go to home of 1& half year old fahad, who died yesterday at meo hospital.
Well done punjab govt , must break the legs of YDA killers , who call them selves doctors?
 
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why not ? i would like to see them bleeding as people dying because of them simple revenge .:no:

police is right in this case:lol:

Sir two wrongs doesn't make one right

only 150 army doctors cant even run a single OPD of a big hospital . And punjab govt is just bringing doctors from periphery and even from jehlum and attock and from other place to run hospitals in big cities , what about the patients in those areas ? dont they need doctors ? Punjab Govt is behaving like a kid .

Rehman Malik of Punjab Says



Talking to media men during his visit to Jinnah Hospital the law minister said government was ready to resolves issues with doctors but first they must end the strike and join duties.

He claimed that after the joining of the new doctors and AMC doctors situation in hospitals was normalizing.

Rana said government sincerely wishes that doctors come back and join their duties and it is always ready to negotiate with them.

He slammed the elements who were exploiting the humanitarian issue for political points-coring.
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Sir two wrongs doesn't make one right



Rehman Malik of Punjab Says



Talking to media men during his visit to Jinnah Hospital the law minister said government was ready to resolves issues with doctors but first they must end the strike and join duties.

He claimed that after the joining of the new doctors and AMC doctors situation in hospitals was normalizing.

Rana said government sincerely wishes that doctors come back and join their duties and it is always ready to negotiate with them.

He slammed the elements who were exploiting the humanitarian issue for political points-coring.
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he is lying nothing is getting normal , they made the situation even worse .
150 doctors cant make any difference , Rana Sanaullah type people think that gundagardi can solve this issue but they are totally wrong .
I am saying this from very start that if Punjab Govt is serious in solving this issue they must negotiate with doctors but instead of doing this they doing opposite .
I am afraid that if this issue is not tackled with wisdom a health crises is going to come , and who is the loser is this situation ? only a common man .
Mr. Shehbaz sharif should let go his so called ego and start negotiating with doctors.

Liars open up your eyes, go to home of 1& half year old fahad, who died yesterday at meo hospital.
Well done punjab govt , must break the legs of YDA killers , who call them selves doctors?
You want to believe whatever media and ganjas told you then i cant help you . believe in whatever you want .
BUt reality is much much different but your blind love for ganjas cant help you to see the reality .
 
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i will support doctors when they go back to work .first start work then we have talk .:frown:
 
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