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Do Indian Hindus believe in Two-nation theory?

(For Indians only) Do you believe in Two-Nation theory?

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Did Bangladeshis converted to Hinduism? No. Did they rejoined Hindustan after separation from Pakistan? No.

So what's the point :p:

Actually I asked this question because I was reading about Indian party BJP the other day where Indian PM comes from. I then came across this organization titled RSS from where Narendra Modi is from.

I was reading about their ideology when these two lines struck me:"Treat Muslims as your own flesh and blood and at the same time work for their suddhikaraan (purification) so that they return to Hinduism which is their original culture" I found these lines a bit offensive. It was basically implying that indian Muslims are forcefully converted and become impure by converting and hence have to be purified into Hinduism. Aren't Indian Muslims as Indian as Indian Hindus are, so why this call for "purification". Doesn't RSS respect the right to religion of Muslims. I found such calls for purification very offensive.

India has BJP Government influenced by RSS and this government has been elected by majority of Indians so I thought maybe Indians subscribe to their views on "purifying" Muslims.and don't consider Muslims to be true Indians. So I wanted some opinions on this from Indian members here
@Kashmiri Pandit @ChennaiDude @jbgt90 @litefire

Its all politics , No sane commoner cares about such things .
They worry too much since they believe Hindus are under constant pressure from Leftist and Christians and Muslims . Why don't we have such issues with other foreign religions ? Its simple they don't make an attempt to convert Hindus .
 
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Two nation theory failed when an equal population of Muslim in India didnt move to Pakistan. It was utterly bogus when they claimed Hindus will control Muslim majority states. I mean, Sikhs rule Punjab, Muslims rule Kashmir, If partition hadnt happened, the 5 states would have been controlled by respective majority populace. And of course Beef would have been legal in those states like it is in Kerala and other Indian states. A completely federal set up.

Reg the author view on Bengal, its an perverted view. He is sucking up the British action of Divide and rule policy by showcasing British as Angels in partition of Bengal to help Muslims. Even Idiots wont believe such fallacies. But our author believes it.

Secondly Gurukul education system was destroyed by Muslims who ruled before hand, and even when the British came, its only the higher castes, or specifically the landlord and priest class who reaped the fruits of education and were installed in all places in the administration. Normal Hindu folks were uneducated like the rest of the populace.



For some people, day begins and ends by chanting Modi. Let me be clear. MMS, Modi will come and go. But the nation will live on. Its the people who make an nation, not a leader.
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People like me are in majority. it's not only Hindus but people of other religions want Muslims out too.
Nope!...things like you are a very small Minority....Just going by PDF, itself you are a Minority. Majority of Indians are Indians first, that goes for any religion within India.
 
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Nope!...things like you are a very small Minority....Just going by PDF, itself you are a Minority. Majority of Indians are Indians first, that goes for any religion within India.
You're selling dosas in USA. Don't lecture me about little tamilian boy.
 
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Blacknobody post: 8742647 said:
You're selling dosas in USA. Don't lecture me about little tamilian boy.
Nope I am selling Beef Masala along with Sambar and Idli..I will lecture you and will spank you as well...("Even though I am not a Tamilian")...By the way what does this mean"about little tamilian boy".. .are you into little boys...I would not be surprised..

"Two-nation theory" is founding principle of Pakistan, and Bangladesh ie former East Pakistan also owes its existence to it. I will talk only about emergence of two-nation theory in Bengal here because family is from East Pakistan.

1. In pre-partition Bengal, Muslims lagged behind Hindus in education, economic conditions. They were opposed to Western education being promoted by British colonialists and ignored it. It was viewed as threat to Islamic values and considered form of subjugation by British. For the Hindus this was opportunity to get an upper hand over Muslims and boost ego. So they gladly accepted Western values and education and thereby got more preference for jobs. In this way the economical conditions of Hindus vastly improved while Muslims remained economically and socially awkward.

2. Till the time Muslims realized mistake it was bit too late. There was real dearth of leaders who would encourage Muslims to take to Western education. Sir Syed Ahmad Khan was instrumental in bringing turnaround through Aligarh movement and by 1900s, an vibrant educated Muslim middle class emerged in British India. Now most of the posts in administration was being occupied by Hindus. The beaureacracy was dominated by Hindus. Even business, trade in Bengal was dominated by Hindus. The landlords were Hindus. As a result many were left jobless. This led to lot of resentment among Bengali Muslim middle class

3. The landlords in Bengal considered Muslim Bengali peasants inferior because of their lack of education and illiteracy, and systematically exploited, mocked and insulted them- using the term "kangal" meaning "beggar". Even the middle class Muslim Bengalis weren't spared from this humiliation- Hindus refused to eat with them and told them to eat in separate places. Hindus considered them impure for eating beef. Beef was also banned by some Hindu zamindars in Bengal even though the areas were Muslim majority. The Muslim Bengalis were discriminated in all walks of life.

4. The prejudice can be seen even in Bengali literature by Hindus during British raj, which deliberately ignored Bengali Muslim populace and portrayed them as irrelevant to Bengal. Bengali Muslim writers like Kazi Nazr ul Islam didn't display such prejudice and included both Hindus and Muslim societies in his writings. Unfortunately there was no reciprocation from Bengali Hindu writers.

5. Bengal was partitioned in 1905 for efficiency of administration. Bengal province was almost the size of France and it was becoming really difficult to administer under single province. Another reason for the partition was to develop the underdeveloped Eastern part of Bengal which had overwhelming Muslim majority.

As soon as partition was enacted, the Bengali Hindus started demonstrating against the creation of a Muslim-majority province of Eastern Bengal and Assam under the pretentious banner of religious unity. The actual reason for the protests was loss of power by Bengali Hindus in Eastern Bengal and their inability to continue their dominance over Muslim Bengalis. They even opposed formation of Dhaka University which was established for improving educational standards in East Bengal, because they saw it as a threat to established universities of Western Bengal like Calcutta and Presidency University. Eventually 1905 partition had to be annulled under pressure from Bengali Hindu populace.

6. During the height of Indian freedom struggle, slogans such as "Vande Maratam" and "Bharat Mata ki Jai" were devised to represent Indian aspirations for freedom from British Raj. The Bengali Muslims did not have any problems in raising slogans against the British, but such slogans which derived inspiration from Hindu beliefs alienated the Muslim populace of Bengal from the freedom struggle.

Bengali Muslims refused to use these slogans and they had every right to do so, because saying them constitutes "shirk". When Muslims say shahadah, they have to respect it. These slogans invoked mother goddesses which are explicitly forbidden in Islam. Bengali Muslims used alternative slogans like "Jai Hind", "Hindustan Zindabad", but the Hindu Bengalis refused to accept them and considered them disloyal for refusing to say those slogans.

7. All these factors led to alienation of Bengali Muslims from Indian freedom struggle, and they instead directed their attention to creating a separate state for Muslims in Bengal, where their religious beliefs would be respected, where they wouldn't they be treated as inferior and second-class citizens by Hindus simply because of their religion, and where they could get education and jobs to earn bread butter for family and lead life of dignity.

These grievances were shared by not only Bengali Muslims but by all sub-continent Muslims, merging into what we now know as "Pakistan Movement", which started much earlier. And hence the creation of our beloved Pakistan :pakistan:

'71 war was very saddening where we succumbed to enemy propaganda and fought amongst ourselves for no apparent reason. There was so much bloodshed everywhere because of a few selfish politicians. But what's done is done so I am not discussing this here anymore.

Anyways coming back to topic, my question to Indian members is : Do you believe in Two-Nation theory? If yes or no, plz give some reasons. I have given my reasons for supporting Two-Nation theory, I want to hear yours

Plz don't post biased responses just because Pakistan and Bangladesh are based on this theory

Below is the list of Members who Agree on TNT.....@Arefin007...did not mention (Indians Only?)
 
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Nope I am selling Beef Masala along with Sambar and Idli..I will lecture you and will spank you as well...("Even though I am not a Tamilian")...By the way what does this mean"about little tamilian boy".. .are you into little boys...I would not be surprised..



Below is the list of Members who Agree on TNT.....@Arefin007...did not mention (Indians Only?)
Ha ha sorry I wanted to see results but it wasn't showing results so I gave my vote :p:
 
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Actually I asked this question because I was reading about Indian party BJP the other day where Indian PM comes from. I then came across this organization titled RSS from where Narendra Modi is from.

I was reading about their ideology when these two lines struck me:"Treat Muslims as your own flesh and blood and at the same time work for their suddhikaraan (purification) so that they return to Hinduism which is their original culture" I found these lines a bit offensive. It was basically implying that indian Muslims are forcefully converted and become impure by converting and hence have to be purified into Hinduism. Aren't Indian Muslims as Indian as Indian Hindus are, so why this call for "purification". Doesn't RSS respect the right to religion of Muslims. I found such calls for purification very offensive.

India has BJP Government influenced by RSS and this government has been elected by majority of Indians so I thought maybe Indians subscribe to their views on "purifying" Muslims.and don't consider Muslims to be true Indians. So I wanted some opinions on this from Indian members here
@Kashmiri Pandit @ChennaiDude @jbgt90
People like me are in majority. it's not only Hindus but people of other religions want Muslims out too.
where are you from ?
 
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Nope I am selling Beef Masala along with Sambar and Idli..I will lecture you and will spank you as well...("Even though I am not a Tamilian")...By the way what does this mean"about little tamilian boy".. .are you into little boys...I would not be surprised..



Below is the list of Members who Agree on TNT.....@Arefin007...did not mention (Indians Only?)
Go serve your white American masters. You South Indian rice Christians are good at that.Don't poke your nose in matters of India.
 
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Go serve your white American masters. You South Indian rice Christians are good at that.Don't poke your nose in matter of India.[/QUOTE)

Yes I am a proud American of Indian origin..Also Very proud of my rice eating South Indian Hindu Roots ....What you are is "Dharti ki Bhoj"...go do something constructive in life (either for your Family or for your country)..or the other option is just disappear....This will make humanity proud of you..!
 
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