Do I just represent the ‘honor’ of the men in my family?

[CriticalThought]

I'm still baffled at women can't wear 'western clothes' in Pakistan. Yes she can and that doesn't make her a 'libtard'. To say 'Western clothes aren't part of the culture' is completely different to 'can't wear them'.

Thanks for accepting it isn't part of our culture. So wearing such clothes in Pakistan amounts to cultural insensitivity.

 

[I.R.A]

Pakistan needs to realize that religion is a personal matter between a person and God

Religion may be a personal matter ............ but if you mention Islam (the Deen) that is a different story dear.

The article makes no sense by the way. Nobody stops anyone from going to a park.

 

[El Sidd]

I'm still baffled at women can't wear 'western clothes' in Pakistan. Yes she can and that doesn't make her a 'libtard'. To say 'Western clothes aren't part of the culture' is completely different to 'can't wear them'.

Dear Ms. Robinson,

Clothing should be the least of your concern given the other problems women face in Pakistan. From inheritance, education to freedom of speech, women face equal challenges to their counterpart, a male in Pakistan.

There is no 'ban' on any clothing article for women. It is a cultural problem not a religious one.

You went to Pakistan and wore whatever you pleased. So why make a big deal out of it.

 

[abdulbarijan]

Seriously the day (some) Boys are told not to glare at women (this has nothing to do with clothes because even full Burqas have expressed the same view) that is when women will feel a lot more comfortable and safe.
No one wants to hear your out of tune songs when you walk by. It's cringe worthy please! Eww

-This is because women under "normal circumstances" are the objects of desire which are fought over (I'm sorry if that sounds harsh, but that's biology for ya). Be it glaring, trying to make eye contact, or cringe worthy songs, those are just people trying to court those objects.

-The most common reason why women find it cringe worthy is because, women don't find these men as objects of desire (too poor/ not good looking/ dress bad etc.) . The moment a woman finds a man who is an object of desire for HER, doing THE EXACT SAME THING, that "EWWWWW" turns into "AWWWW" faster than a heart beat.

-Ironically enough, there are situations in which the guy is the object of desire (fame/ fortune/ good looks)... suddenly the girls and women who were finding guys cringe worthy convert into the same cringe worthy animals they complain to their girlfriends about;

-Oh and just in case you think it's just the celebs that get the attention, ask tall guys who hit the gym regularly or play some sport in their colleges and unis, they'll tell ya. At this point I think, its human craving to get attention, just that we call it cringe worthy, when it's not from someone we deem is "in our league" ...

I'm still baffled at women can't wear 'western clothes' in Pakistan. Yes she can and that doesn't make her a 'libtard'. To say 'Western clothes aren't part of the culture' is completely different to 'can't wear them'.

Well that depends on the social acceptability of that particular setting, I've seen girls with T's and skinny jeans on (frowned upon in our culture), who attend parties with that clothing and as soon as the party is over, they go back to the "shareef shalwar kameez" before going home.

You'll see girls coming from conservative backgrounds, dress all up in their abayas taking them off once they get in to universities wearing dresses that are not so conservative. That's because on the road and in the home the social acceptability is different, in university, it's a different social acceptability altogether.

 

[Spring Onion]

I can't help but laugh every time I see a girl wearing jeans in Pakistan. Especially in that heat.

actually jeans is not for out of proportion physique. But the naway naway Ungal Land returnee or effectees think it looks modern to wear it anyway

 

[Divergent]

Dear Ms. Robinson,

Clothing should be the least of your concern given the other problems women face in Pakistan. From inheritance, education to freedom of speech, women face equal challenges to their counterpart, a male in Pakistan.

There is no 'ban' on any clothing article for women. It is a cultural problem not a religious one.

You went to Pakistan and wore whatever you pleased. So why make a big deal out of it.

Dear Mr Sidd,

A big deal isn't being made of it but a clearance is and bringing clarity to the matter is. When a member responds to your post in this manner:

"And so, from silence you surmise acceptance? So we should be vocal and call you out as a shameless, immorallibtard to make you understand you are not accepted?"

It makes one feel secluded by being said wearing them refers to you as 'shameless and not accepted'

I hope that brings further light to why I mentioned it. Please read prior to any responses given so you may have a broader vision as to why one reacted as such.

Thank you.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

actually jeans is not for out of proportion physique. But the naway naway Ungal Land returnee or effectees think it looks modern to wear it anyway

Girls look way prettier in shalwar kameez. I remember when my grandfather first came to America, he was like why do their women dress like men?

 

[Spring Onion]

I'm still baffled at women can't wear 'western clothes' in Pakistan. Yes she can and that doesn't make her a 'libtard'. To say 'Western clothes aren't part of the culture' is completely different to 'can't wear them'.

Western cloths are a normal common thing in Pakistan now.

The best part is that China should be praised for bringing us replicas that suit local culture as well as depict or look western. For example many conservative family girls want to wear jeans but since there is some kind of unacceptable one way or the other from male or elderly female relatives so here we have Chinese Denim Jersey tights that look like jeans .

Also women here find way to alter the clothing which look western as well as eastern at the same time.

Girls look way prettier in shalwar kameez. I remember when my grandfather first came to America, he was like why do their women dress like men?

)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

 

[Divergent]

actually jeans is not for out of proportion physique. But the naway naway Ungal Land returnee or effectees think it looks modern to wear it anyway

I don't necessarily believe it's about being looked as modern. Students at Universities wear this, Centaurus mall is full of it, Khosar markaz too, many wear it with long kurtas or wrap a shawl. Each to their own in whatever one feels comfortable in.

 

[CriticalThought]

Dear Mr Sidd,

A big deal isn't being made of it but a clearance is and bringing clarity to the matter is. When a member responds to your post in this manner:

"And so, from silence you surmise acceptance? So we should be vocal and call you out as a shameless, immorallibtard to make you understand you are not accepted?"

It makes one feel secluded by being said wearing them refers to you as 'shameless and not accepted'

I hope that brings further light to why I mentioned it. Please read prior to any responses given so you may have a broader vision as to why one reacted as such.

Thank you.

On the contrary, it reveals how you are jumping to conclusions. The point was, what would it take to make you understand something is not accepted in Pakistan? It is obvious, silence is counter-productive. My question was, what level of intensity would make it crystal clear exactly how offensive shameless dressing is considered in Pakistan?

 

[El Sidd]

Dear Mr Sidd,

A big deal isn't being made of it but a clearance is and bringing clarity to the matter is. When a member responds to your post in this manner:

"And so, from silence you surmise acceptance? So we should be vocal and call you out as a shameless, immorallibtard to make you understand you are not accepted?"

It makes one feel secluded by being said wearing them refers to you as 'shameless and not accepted'

I hope that brings further light to why I mentioned it. Please read prior to any responses given so you may have a broader vision as to why one reacted as such.

Thank you.

Respect Ms. Robinson,

Everyone has their own opinion. Respect it as a difference of opinion, ignore it as it should really not bother you. There is no point in going around circles.

Respect the beautiful culture which allows you to do anything you want. I was hoping to see Afghans in Bikini post invasion but they are still not wearing them.

If a piece of clothing has more value than the person itself, then we should all become Nudists or forced to be otherwise we can never reach a logical conclusion to this debate.

I place 'i take offense with niqaab since i cannot communicate' and 'i take offense if a women is dressed in 'western' attire' both in the same category.

 

[CriticalThought]

I don't necessarily believe it's about being looked as modern. Students at Universities wear this, Centaurus mall is full of it, Khosar markaz too, many wear it with long kurtas or wrap a shawl. Each to their own in whatever one feels comfortable in.

And people don't think they are doing anything commendable.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

If you guys try to wear jeans during the summer in south Punjab, you will get rash and poras all over your legs and private areas.

Then you have to go buy

 

[Divergent]

-This is because women under "normal circumstances" are the objects of desire which are fought over (I'm sorry if that sounds harsh, but that's biology for ya). Be it glaring, trying to make eye contact, or cringe worthy songs, those are just people trying to court those objects.

-The most common reason why women find it cringe worthy is because, women don't find these men as objects of desire (too poor/ not good looking/ dress bad etc.) . The moment a woman finds a man who is an object of desire for HER, doing THE EXACT SAME THING, that "EWWWWW" turns into "AWWWW" faster than a heart beat.

-Ironically enough, there are situations in which the guy is the object of desire (fame/ fortune/ good looks)... suddenly the girls and women who were finding guys cringe worthy convert into the same cringe worthy animals they complain to their girlfriends about;

-Oh and just in case you think it's just the celebs that get the attention, ask tall guys who hit the gym regularly or play some sport in their colleges and unis, they'll tell ya. At this point I think, its human craving to get attention, just that we call it cringe worthy, when it's not from someone we deem is "in our league" ...


Well that depends on the social acceptability of that particular setting, I've seen girls with T's and skinny jeans on (frowned upon in our culture), who attend parties with that clothing and as soon as the party is over, they go back to the "shareef shalwar kameez" before going home.

You'll see girls coming from conservative backgrounds, dress all up in their abayas taking them off once they get in to universities wearing dresses that are not so conservative. That's because on the road and in the home the social acceptability is different, in university, it's a different social acceptability altogether.

Works both ways.

 

[Hell hound]

I'm still baffled at women can't wear 'western clothes' in Pakistan. Yes she can and that doesn't make her a 'libtard'. To say 'Western clothes aren't part of the culture' is completely different to 'can't wear them'.

they can. universities are filled with the girls wearing western attires my own sister is one of them.