Do Eastern Europeans know they're vulnerable without the EU?

[Baybars Han]

The important thing is that it is full of Russians.

Do not forget that Turkey has been longer part of the Roman and Greek world than it has been Turkish. Should then Turkey give up her territory?

I never claimed it was "historically" ours, which in fact is more true than Crimea for Russians as Turks came to anatolia around 1,000 years ago while Crimea has been Russians for maximum 400 years.

Thanks I know history well enough. I was responding to what he said about "historically" their city which wasnt true.

 

[flamer84]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7820924.stm


Back to topic, Eastern Europeans weren't independent under Soviet reign and to be fair they're still not sovereign today. You guys were always a game ball among Russians, Europeans and to some extent Turks (Balkan).

Flamer might say that Western Europeans like them but it's simply not true. British can't stand Polish immigrants, the German either don't like Polish people but they accept them because of their weak Polish identity. Just visit Germany to understand my point. The moment a Polish guy gets a job in Germany he already starts to erase his own identity and culture. Polish women in particular are marrying German men. It's pathetic. On the one hand the Polish act like the most nationalistic people at all on the other hand they lost their identity the sec they leave Poland. I don't have any respect for them.

Romanians get even less respect than Polish. Serbia? Just google 'Serbien muss sterbien'. They still are devils in the eyes of Western Europeans.

What I've described is nothing new. You all know these facts but choose to live in denial.

These are not facts,these are your ramblings.

Let's go through facts. ...Turkey wasn't independent either, she was IN NATO camp.
As for Turkey in the Balkans,it was only infighting between Bulgaria, Greece, Serbia that helped the turks from being ran out of Europe altogether.And. ...yes,it was Westerners who intervneed to save the noble turk ***.

Turkey today,exists ONLY BECAUSE Western Europe allowed it and that's a historical fact

 

[TMA]

I never claimed it was "historically" ours, which in fact is more true than Crimea for Russians as Turks came to anatolia around 1,000 years ago while Crimea has been Russians for maximum 400 years.

Thanks I know history well enough. I was responding to what he said about "historically" their city which wasnt true.

So what constitutes historically 1000 years 2000 years 3000 years?

 

[flamer84]

Huh? Hahaha this guys actually a retard.

Sure western Europe allowed us to survive while losing over 200,000 troops at the same time. From your retarded post I assume your talking about the balkan wars which will make me question your intelligence even more. Linking balkan wars to our survival is funny.

BTW by quoting that idiot you showed your iq levels, because that retard does not have a brain, hes brain is programmed to follow what erdoğan says. He will lick his feet if

Huh? Hahaha this guys actually a retard.

Sure western Europe allowed us to survive while losing over 200,000 troops at the same time. From your retarded post I assume your talking about the balkan wars which will make me question your intelligence even more. Linking balkan wars to our survival is funny.

BTW by quoting that idiot you showed your iq levels, because that retard does not have a brain, hes brain is programmed to follow what erdoğan says. He will lick his feet if he sees him.

What I've said it's historical truth,I don't care if you don't like it.

Who fought the Crimean War? England,France. Who stopped the Russians from advancing in 1877? Westerners. What territories would you have today in Europe without Bulgaria, Greece, Serbia turning on each other after the First Balkan War? Little to none.

 

[ptldM3]

Second, as for holding historical grudges, again,this is not the ME, it serves no purpose to live in the past when you have to worry about today, only uneducated people keep only blaming the past for their current status.

The irony is you won't ever shut up about how you hate Russia for what the Soviet Union did.

You moan about it daily.

 

[flamer84]

The irony is you won't ever shut up about how you hate Russia for what the Soviet Union did.

You moan about it daily.

Ergh. ....no I don't. The main issue with Russia is its current day policies.

 

[ptldM3]

Ergh. ....no I don't. The main issue with Russia is its current day policies.

I can pull up loads of your quotes in which you openly admit to hating Russians while calling them rapists and drunks. You are two faced.

As for policies, please. NATO goes around the globe starting wars in every continent, places hundreds of military bases around the world and then moans and cries about Russia being in Syria while they are also in Syria but illegally and arming terrorist groups. As for Crimea, the US openly interfered and many of the protesters were payed. If it wasn't for the US meddling in Ukraine Crimea would still be a part of Ukraine, even though people in Crimea hate Ukraine.

Let's start a list in which NATO countries were involved in wars and a list in which Russia was involved, and since you love to cling to history by moaning about Russia how about we look at all the wars England has been in, how about all their colonies, how about the French and their colonies and wars, how about the Germans, Italians, Polish, Austrians, Turks, etc. How about all the wars they have started. Of course you conveniently ignore those countries and belittle Russia.