DNA Results From Rakhigarhi Are Now Being Reported

[LASER1]

Previously I was taking you about 5% seriously, however, even that credibility has been lost now after you snatched a google image and tried to claim that some (unsourced) "study" has linked Tamil Brahmins to Ashkenazi Jews.

If you have no comprehension and have zero knowledge on what is being talked about, then you can buzz off instead of wasting my time.

First off, even if that is true - this does not at all correlate with the Eurasian steppe migrations into South Asia (though they did not move beyond the Indus) as Ashenknazis came much later. Whichever "Tamil Brahmin" claimed this on some forum was probably the son of a South Indian prostitute who had a quick session with Israeli retirees/tourists who come for cheap Indian ######.

Now I get you are another dumbo who have no knowledge on what is being talked about. If I get to your level, I can also bring google images of Hazara brownies and white Europeans. All it requires is to do cherry picking.
Also, since your frontal lobe is poorly developed, I wouldn't make you read everything written there.

 

[Great Brahmin]

You are getting into Nazi eugenics and White supremacist pseudo-science here.



I consider Gujuratis a South/Central Indian culture due to their racial and linguistic characteristics. They have very little in common with Indus Pakistan.

On average they can be as dark as Tamils with australoid facial features.

Gujurat is also a festering ground of religious and ethnic hatred, being exclusionist in nature. They follow a very hard brand of Hinduism. Very different than the accommodating and accepting cultures of the Indus Valley.

Rajastanis and some Sikhs (those without Hindu intermarriage) do resemble Indus Pakistanis in looks and culture. Many of the Rajastanis had been incompletely converted to Islam before Gandhi and Congress forcibly re-converted them back to Hinduism.

I dont give a damn about Nazi theories or Racism. If you check my history you will kind count of posts written by me saying I am a Lonewolf, i only Care about myself.

Lonewolf.

 

[Great Brahmin]

I think something we can all agree on is what happens in Pakistan is Pakistan's history, what happens in India is India's history and etc. Mohenjo Daro- Ancient Pakistani heritage. Harrapa- Ancient Pakistani heritage. Rakhigarhi, Dholavaria, Lothal, Kalibangan, etc.- Ancient Indian heritage. The problem is some(not all) Pakistanis think that because the IVC sites are towards the western fringe of India, India somehow cannot claim them, or that India's IVC sites lack historical significance, a ridiculous claim refuted by archeologists from around the world. Even worse, some Pakistanis claim that other regions of India do not have any ancient civilizations or empires, an idiotic an racist claim that shows their ignorance of history. Similarly, I am sure Pakistan has civilizations and Empires other than the IVC.
I think we will all get along much better once we start respecting and appreciating each other's history.

Absolutely,

As a Gujarati i give rest of Indians 100% claim on our Lothal, Dhodavira, Dozdi, Dwarika etc.

Others are as much ISC as we are.

 

[UnitedPak]

As a Gujarati i give rest of Indians 100% claim on our Lothal, Dhodavira, Dozdi, Dwarika etc.

That's not how it works...

But can't say I am surprised at this mentality of your countrymen.

 

[Dubious]

THe number zero was invented by Brahmagupta, who lived most of his life in Rajasthan. The Decimal system was invented by Arybhata, and without it, the Arabs and Europeans would not have been able to create advanced systems of mathematics. Aryabhata was also the first astronomer to calculate the length of a day and a year and determine the timings of eclipses. He was also one of the first astronomers to discover that the Earth rotates on an axis. THe South Indian mathematician Madhava also discovered principles of calculus centuries before Newton did. As for literature, there is no evidence Panini was born in Pakistan, and even then, he was by no means the first and only Sanskrit grammarian. The greatest works of Sanskrit literature are the Mahabharat and the Ramayana, both longer than the greek oddyssy and Iliad, and they were weitten in northern India. I don't know why you mentioned the rest of the stuff you did becuases we are clearly talking about ancient history, but have you sent satelites to MArs and the Moon? We were among the first nations to discover water on the moon. As for architecture, simply look at the threads created on the subject, we are unparalleled. The fact you included all those unrelated examples of recent history to counter our countless achievements during ancient times shows how defensive you are
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahmagupta
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryabhata
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madhava_of_Sangamagrama
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahabharata
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/ancient-indian-architecture.325674/
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/sout...al-heritage-and-its-indian-connection.565422/
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/indi...the-best-yet-criminally-unappreciated.554988/

Dude wikipedia can be edited by anyone.....

 

[Cobra Arbok]

Dude wikipedia can be edited by anyone.....

Do you have aby better sources? WIkipedia has links to many others. Anyway everything I stated is a fact. With that being said, I hope you understood the point behind the posts on this thread rather than getting bogged down by details.

 

[Dubious]

Do you have aby better sources? WIkipedia has links to many others. Anyway everything I stated is a fact. With that being said, I hope you understood the point behind the posts on this thread rather than getting bogged down by details.

I am a molecular biologist I can clearly see the difference between facts and fiction..

Secondly no scholar on the planet will give you credit for copying off wikipedia...You cant even put that in your reference list at uni what more trying to prove some hereditary linkage as fact?

 

[Great Brahmin]

That's not how it works...

n.

Why ?

 

[Cobra Arbok]

I am a molecular biologist I can clearly see the difference between facts and fiction..

Secondly no scholar on the planet will give you credit for copying off wikipedia...You cant even put that in your reference list at uni what more trying to prove some hereditary linkage as fact?

Well I am sorry but this is a forum not a university, and I am not writing a research paper. Can you disprove anything I said? I simply posted a couple of basic historical facts.

 

[UnitedPak]

Why ?

For the same reason Pakistanis cannot give Arabs a claim on IVC, despite the shared history and rule. It makes no sense. The mere fact that I have to explain this to is mind boggling.

 

[Cobra Arbok]

For the same reason Pakistanis cannot give Arabs a claim on IVC, despite the shared history and rule. It makes no sense. The mere fact that I have to explain this to is mind boggling.

I agree. The only people in India who can claim it are those from the IVC region-Gujarat, West Rajasthan, Punjab, Haryana, Himachal, and JaK. It really is not hard.

 

[Great Brahmin]

For the same reason Pakistanis cannot give Arabs a claim on IVC, despite the shared history and rule. It makes no sense. The mere fact that I have to explain this to is mind boggling.

But Pakistanis and Arabs are not genetically similar or have anything that connects them besides Islam.

While we share genetic, cultural, linguistic and religious connection with rest of India, we are same country.

 

[UnitedPak]

But Pakistanis and Arabs are not genetically similar or have anything that connects them besides Islam.

While we share genetic, cultural, linguistic and religious connection with rest of India, we are same country.

We share genetic (Turks, Iranians, Iraqis have the exact same genetic components), cultural (Persian, linguistic (Indo-European/Indo-Iranian) and religious (Pre Islamic) connections with the rest of the middle east too.
India is not special in any way.

 

[Great Brahmin]

We share genetic (Turks, Iranians, Iraqis have the exact same genetic components), cultural (Persian, linguistic (Indo-European/Indo-Iranian) and religious (Pre Islamic) connections with the rest of the middle east too.
India is not special in any way.

Pakistanis? Right.

Indians of North West/West Gujarat ? No.

Brahmins? NO.

I am sure Pakistanis are related to people of West Asia as you say but I believe as a Brahmin I don't share any kind of geneticand, cultural or linguistic connection with people of Iran, Turkey, Iraq etc.

As for language god have blessed us with their own language Sanskrit, which is different from Iranian and Turkish language.

 

[Hamza913]

I am sure Pakistanis are related to people of West Asia as you say but I believe as a Brahmin I don't share any kind of geneticand, cultural or linguistic connection with people of Iran, Turkey, Iraq etc.

As for language god have blessed us with their own language Sanskrit, which is different from Iranian and Turkish language.

You do, just like Iranians, Iraqis and Turks you guys have a large quantity of Eurasian DNA. Your language is also very similar to old Iranian languages like Avestan, as they both come from the same proto Indo-Iranic language.

Even in terms of migration routes, your people migrated from the Caucasus to South Asia through Iran and Central Asia.